Newbie 1543: Nightmare Mafia (Scum Win)

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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:43 am

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Man I really hope jagged is scum so I haven't been completely wrong this game.
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:44 am

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If it's BBT/wg then this has been some pretty great play.

wg/brian would be pretty meh.
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:44 am

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You have been completely wrong.

Why would Jagged, as scum, enter the game and state intent to hammer on his buddy when he could continue lurking?
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:46 am

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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:53 am

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In post 1054, Jagged Appliance wrote:Here I am, trying to lynch scum.

So, I see the thread, Day 2, my top scumread has just said some very scummy things. Hey look, L-1, time to post intent. The problem is where exactly? That I didn't say enough on day 1?

There are posts like this one though. Scum caught for wrong reasons?
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:54 am

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It would also make wg's claim make sense. If I was his buddy, it really doesn't.
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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:56 am

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How does his claim not make sense with you as his buddy?
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:58 am

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I also think the fact Wgeurts sacked himself like he did indicates that his mafia partner was on his wagon, I think said mafia partner is likely OC and not Jagged though.
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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:59 am

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Because it means he's immediately being lynched, and his flip strongly implicates me. As long as his scumbuddy is defending him, he shouldn't give up. Also, I totally wouldn't have defended him as I did, but I guess there's really nothing I can say to make you believe that.
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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:00 am

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Copper, review OC.

He is town.
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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:05 am

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In post 1029, serrapaladin wrote:I agree that some of wg's recent posts have been terrible, but I don't see how they tilt the scale from VI to newbscum. I don't agree with BBT's interpretations in .

BBT has been all over the place today, but I'm actually leaning town on him. I want to say it's Jagged/Brian, which would be also supported by the flow of votes yesterday and brian's continuous soft-bussing of that slot without ever voting there.

This post condemns Serra as Wgeurts scum-buddy.
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:06 am

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Why? Because I was wrong about wg?
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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:07 am

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Notice how OC unvoted right after BBC's vote, and then re-voted after the fake claim. Also the words he chose when voting for Wgeurts day 2:
Wgeurts really did just make the scummiest posts of the game in a matter of one page. I honestly would have zero justification for voting anyone else at this point. Not even my biggest biases could possibly ignore those posts.

-> Mafia sees slips more readily than town because they already know their partner's alignment and he is 100% sure wgeurts is mafia after the posts he made.
-> Partner you fucked up and I'm sacking you.
After lynching wgeurts and he flips scum though, I'm willing to bet they'll be much more willing to listen to me about you BBT.

-> I will get town cred for lynching you.

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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:13 am

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In post 1161, serrapaladin wrote:Why? Because I was wrong about wg?

Because;

a) I genuinely don't see how anyone could town-read Wgeurts after his posts today

b) you tried to deflect attention onto somebody else
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:14 am

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Copper, you were town-reading Wgeurts for most of D1 correct?

I had Wgeurts as scum from my very first post.
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:15 am

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By that logic Brian is also scum, he is actually more scum than Serra because at least Serra has this excuse:

Serra wrote:First, I never said that you and WG are town for your level of activity. My comment said something like keen wallposting, which I reflects much more than simply being active. You both have volunteered much information, and your posting style has been loose and fairly aggressive, which in the context of you both being new to the site suggests town. This is something I may need to revise further into the game for you as I get a better idea of how aware of your posting style you are, but when I've seen posts like yours and wg's in newbies, they have come predominantly from town. The fact that your posts have come in walls is quite relevant, as it suggests that you both go through the game sequentially in context, and comment on anything you consider worthwhile. This stems from a mindset of trying to solve the game as a whole. The converse, shorter posts picking out individual things to comment on, often reflect someone searching through the thread for sensible, unattackable comments to make that will give the appearance of contribution.


Which explains how he could still see Wgeurts as town despite what everyone else thought of him. You yourself don't seem very sure of the fact as right before I cc'd Wgeurts you had unvoted him and had gone on Jagged.
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:19 am

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Only because Jagged was acting scummy as hell, nothing to do with Wgeurts.
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:24 am

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Copper, you were town-reading Wgeurts for most of D1 correct?

I had Wgeurts as scum from my very first post.


I had Wgeurts mafia for half day 1 and town for the other half roughly, I think he did a good job with his defences. I ultimately got Wgeurts lynched while you were going on Jagged whose alignment is undetermined at the moment, but more likely town given the hammer intent.

You misslynched Waffle (I tried really hard to save the bloke) and you were wrong on Thor.
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:25 am

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Serra is not playing like a mafia.
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:38 am

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I'm trying to do VCA but can't get the colour's right from the Mod's VC's.

Not sure why. Never had this problem before.
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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:43 am

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Are you using a software to scan the votes? That would be handy.
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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:43 am

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Are you using a software to scan the votes? That would be handy.
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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:43 am

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wops, Ipad lag sry
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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:46 am

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Nah, I just change the colours of people I know the alignment of and look for the voting pattern.

I can't get WG name to change to Green from the first time Wgeurts gets put to L-1 though. Can you try and tell me how to do it if you figure it out?
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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:55 am

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@BBT

You mean like this?

In post 1093, Belisarius wrote:

Vote Count 2.02
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Jagged Appliance: (2) BlueBloodedToffee
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wgeurts

(L-1)
:right: wgeurts:(3)
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