Newbie 1544 - Shakespeare Mafia: GAME OVER!

fferyllt · Post Post #25 (ISO) » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:36 pm

Vote Count 1.1

Ill met by moonlight, proud Titania.

Conrad

(2): roseylily, Shinobi

Klingoncelt

(1): aphix

aphix

(1): Jagged Appliance

Nachomamma8

(1): Klingoncelt

Not Voting

(4): Freshmaniscoolman, Conrad, hephaestus, Nachomamma8

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: October 28, Midnight Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2014-10-28 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- Freshmaniscoolman will be replaced in approximately 12 hours if he doesn't post in the game thread by then.
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Klingoncelt · Post Post #26 (ISO) » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:57 pm

In post 23, aphix wrote:
In post 22, Klingoncelt wrote:Is this not RVS in a noob game? Don't worry, my voting will be more suitable once the Random Voting is over.

Still doesn't explain to me why the IC?

Why not? IC's can be Scum, y'know.

aphix · Post Post #27 (ISO) » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:01 pm

I thought this was a RVS VOTE. NOW HES SCUM?

Scuse the caps posting on phone.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #28 (ISO) » Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:21 pm

Did I say "HE IS SCUM" ?

No.

I said he

could be.

You sure are a reactive personality, aren't you.

aphix · Post Post #29 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:43 am

So why the vote on him?

fferyllt · Post Post #30 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:54 am

House replaces Freshmaniscoolman. Please welcome him!

House · Post Post #31 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:00 am

Hi all!

VOTE: aphix

You sure are digging in your heels on an RVS vote, and the deliberate misrep means more coming from an SE than if it had simply been a newbie.

Serious vote is serious. RVS over.

Shinobi · Post Post #32 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:05 am

Where's the deliberate misrep? I don't see it.

House · Post Post #33 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:07 am

In post 32, Shinobi wrote:Where's the deliberate misrep? I don't see it.

"NOW HES SCUM?"

Klingon didn't say anything of the sort, and aphix's badgering implied she was making a case against Nacho during RVS.

Shinobi · Post Post #34 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:14 am

I don't interpret that as a misrep.

The way I saw it, Klingon rvs'd and aphix questioned him on his rvs. Klingon said that Nacho could be scum, but never said that beforehand. Aphix's comment looks legitimate because Klingon voted Nacho beforehand without calling her scum explicitly.

So I see his line of questioning as legitimate. I don't have a problem with it.

House · Post Post #35 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:19 am

In post 34, Shinobi wrote:I don't interpret that as a misrep.

The way I saw it, Klingon rvs'd and aphix questioned him on his rvs. Klingon said that Nacho could be scum, but never said that beforehand. Aphix's comment looks legitimate because Klingon voted Nacho beforehand without calling her scum explicitly.

So I see his line of questioning as legitimate. I don't have a problem with it.

Saying "the IC can be scum" is not grounds for suspicion, it's a fact that an IC's role does not preclude them from being scum and Klingon was just pointing that fact out. I can totally understand her doing that when being asked why she voted the IC. What I don't understand is why an IC would then twist her words when it was clear she never implied suspicion

over her RVS vote

.

House · Post Post #36 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:20 am

I mean "an SE would twist her words"

Shinobi · Post Post #37 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:22 am

I guess that's one interpretation of things.

I just don't see how it necessarily makes aphix scum, especially since this scenario can be interpreted a number of ways.

House · Post Post #38 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:24 am

In post 37, Shinobi wrote:I guess that's one interpretation of things.

I just don't see how it necessarily makes aphix scum, especially since this scenario can be interpreted a number of ways.

Don't obfuscate. If you have an alternative theory, present it. I was clear in my interpretation, kindly return the favor.

Shinobi · Post Post #39 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:25 am

I already did this and you quoted it.

House · Post Post #40 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:26 am

I was really hoping you had something rational waiting in the wings.

I has a sad, now.

House · Post Post #41 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:29 am

In post 34, Shinobi wrote:I don't interpret that as a misrep.

The way I saw it, Klingon rvs'd and aphix questioned him on his rvs. Klingon said that Nacho could be scum,
but never said that beforehand
.

Why should a player state reason for an RVS vote? Irrational statement is irrational.

In post 34, Shinobi wrote:Aphix's comment looks legitimate because Klingon voted Nacho beforehand without calling her scum explicitly.

Why would you call somebody that hasn't even posted yet scum? Irrational statement is irrational.

In post 34, Shinobi wrote:
So I see his line of questioning as legitimate. I don't have a problem with it.

I see your whiteknighting as illegitimate. I have a problem with it.

Please present better arguments in the future.

Shinobi · Post Post #42 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:36 am

It doesn't matter if RVS has a purpose or not. You can totes question someone on their RVS.

I don't get why you're classifying my arguments as "white knighting" when I'm just trying to understand where this argument is coming from. It really doesn't feel all that important.

House · Post Post #43 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:39 am

In post 42, Shinobi wrote:It doesn't matter if RVS has a purpose or not. You can totes question someone on their RVS.

I don't get why you're classifying my arguments as "white knighting" when I'm just trying to understand where this argument is coming from. It really doesn't feel all that important.

Funny, voting someone for acting scummy isn't all that important... but giving a player the third degree for casting a random vote on somebody that hasn't even posted yet (

and thus having no interaction to analyze

) is somehow justifiable?

Moonlogic.

House · Post Post #44 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:49 am

Shinobi or aphix, I want to hear from one of you an explanation on how a player can suspect someone of being scum that hasn't even posted.

I refuse to address either of you until one of you explains this sort of strategy.

Shinobi · Post Post #45 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:54 am

Talk to aphix then. All I'm saying is that I see a perfectly reasonable explanation for his line of questioning.

Does it make him town or scum? No. If you feel strongly about what he's doing in regards to Klingon, then I'm perfectly happy to let this play out and gather reads from what's going on.

aphix · Post Post #46 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:50 am

Good intro house.

Still waiting on Klingon. Talk to you later.

roseylily · Post Post #47 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:56 am

In post 16, aphix wrote:Roseylilly: What do you think of shinobis RVS sheep here?

It was an RVS vote, and it was only the second vote. I don't think it's a particularly scummy move.

House · Post Post #48 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:00 pm

In post 47, roseylily wrote:
In post 16, aphix wrote:Roseylilly: What do you think of shinobis RVS sheep here?

It was an RVS vote, and it was only the second vote. I don't think it's a particularly scummy move.

I'm House, and I approve this post.

fferyllt · Post Post #49 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:01 pm

" Either I mistake your shape and making quite,
33 Or else you are that shrewd and knavish sprite
34 Call'd Robin Goodfellow: are not you he
35 That frights the maidens of the villagery;
36 Skim milk, and sometimes labor in the quern
37 And bootless make the breathless huswife churn;
38 And sometime make the drink to bear no barm;
39 Mislead night-wanderers, laughing at their harm?
40 Those that Hobgoblin call you and sweet Puck,
41 You do their work, and they shall have good luck:
42 Are not you he? "