Open 575: Friends & Enemies-Together At Last (OVER)

acryon · Post Post #25 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:47 am

In post 21, wgeurts wrote:
In post 16, Wisdom wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: mathdino

Hi Newbie, how do you feel about voting Mathdino with us?

Why are you changing your vote?
Not voting until there's more info.

I sometimes come in and abstain from voting during RVS because most others have voted and I don't like to add to the noise, which makes sense as a reason to me. But your reason is that you don't have enough info...for a

random

vote?

acryon · Post Post #26 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:49 am

In post 24, Newbie wrote:Honestly, I know people here do joke votes on the first day, but where I'm from, the time limit is much smaller so we get serious pretty quickly. Therefore, I will not throw out a vote until more people begin to post and things get rolling and then I can start analyzing.

But don't you think it first requires players voting randomly to get the ball rolling?

Wisdom · Post Post #27 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:50 am

In post 24, Newbie wrote:

Honestly, I know people here do joke votes on the first day, but where I'm from, the time limit is much smaller so we get serious pretty quickly. Therefore, I will not throw out a vote until more people begin to post and things get rolling and then I can start analyzing.

Those "joke" votes can get things serious pretty quickly too, don't you think?

Mathdino · Post Post #28 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:52 am

Well Newbie, that explains your wallposting, haha. Are there any records left of one of your scum games and town games?

@wgeurts: RVS wagons can be good ways of getting reactions out of people. Why so concerned?

acryon · Post Post #29 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:53 am

In post 28, Mathdino wrote:Well Newbie, that explains your wallposting, haha. Are there any records left of one of your scum games and town games?

@wgeurts: RVS wagons can be good ways of getting reactions out of people. Why so concerned?

Speaking of reactions, you're kind of under the heat Mathdino. How does it feel? Why are you town?

VictorDeAngelo · Post Post #30 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:54 am

In post 28, Mathdino wrote:Well Newbie, that explains your wallposting, haha. Are there any records left of one of your scum games and town games?

Hey Math, why so keen to get some early meta off Newbie?

acryon · Post Post #31 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:55 am

In post 30, VictorDeAngelo wrote:
In post 28, Mathdino wrote:Well Newbie, that explains your wallposting, haha. Are there any records left of one of your scum games and town games?

Hey Math, why so keen to get some early meta off Newbie?

I think it's fine. Especially with someone who seems to be new, it's nice to get a feel for how they play so you don't end up just writing off the things they do as "newbie".

VictorDeAngelo · Post Post #32 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:57 am

In post 31, acryon wrote:
In post 30, VictorDeAngelo wrote:
In post 28, Mathdino wrote:Well Newbie, that explains your wallposting, haha. Are there any records left of one of your scum games and town games?

Hey Math, why so keen to get some early meta off Newbie?

I think it's fine. Especially with someone who seems to be new, it's nice to get a feel for how they play so you don't end up just writing off the things they do as "newbie".

Thanks Mathdino that's what I wanted to.....hold up a sec. Your not Mathdino.

Newbie · Post Post #33 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:59 am

In post 27, Wisdom wrote:
In post 24, Newbie wrote:

Honestly, I know people here do joke votes on the first day, but where I'm from, the time limit is much smaller so we get serious pretty quickly. Therefore, I will not throw out a vote until more people begin to post and things get rolling and then I can start analyzing.

Those "joke" votes can get things serious pretty quickly too, don't you think?

I know they can. What I mean by getting seriously very quickly is that we don't really do joke votes at all, lol. We just jump right in.

In post 28, Mathdino wrote:Well Newbie, that explains your wallposting, haha. Are there any records left of one of your scum games and town games?

@wgeurts: RVS wagons can be good ways of getting reactions out of people. Why so concerned?

I could link you to the games, if that's what you mean.

acryon · Post Post #34 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:01 am

In post 32, VictorDeAngelo wrote:
In post 31, acryon wrote:
In post 30, VictorDeAngelo wrote:
In post 28, Mathdino wrote:Well Newbie, that explains your wallposting, haha. Are there any records left of one of your scum games and town games?

Hey Math, why so keen to get some early meta off Newbie?

I think it's fine. Especially with someone who seems to be new, it's nice to get a feel for how they play so you don't end up just writing off the things they do as "newbie".

Thanks Mathdino that's what I wanted to.....hold up a sec. Your not Mathdino.

I don't love when people seem to question others for trying to get information. Seems anti-town. He was trying to find out some information, which

tends

to be useful for scum-hunting. Wouldn't you agree?

SilverWolf · Post Post #35 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:07 am

In post 21, wgeurts wrote:
Not voting until there's more info.

Voting, and the reactions to voting, actually provide a lot more info. then just saying you aren't going to vote. Is there some reason you want to hold back?

ISO · Post Post #36 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:07 am

In post 22, Wisdom wrote:Because I like wagons. How do you feel about that?

Not good.

ISO · Post Post #37 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:09 am

In post 35, SilverWolf wrote:
In post 21, wgeurts wrote:
Not voting until there's more info.

Voting, and the reactions to voting, actually provide a lot more info. then just saying you aren't going to vote. Is there some reason you want to hold back?

I usually abstain from RVS and try to figure out and spot any further minor slips. I'll then yank us all out of this stupid phase, huzzah.

ISO · Post Post #38 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:10 am

In post 28, Mathdino wrote:Well Newbie, that explains your wallposting, haha. Are there any records left of one of your scum games and town games?

@wgeurts: RVS wagons can be good ways of getting reactions out of people. Why so concerned?

I'm not, reaction test are good.
I also will randomly question for reactions as to end the RVS as fast as possible.

Wisdom · Post Post #39 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:11 am

Yeah, I also feel Victor's question was kind of useless and maybe even a little loaded. There are not many reasons one wants to get meta.

Wisdom · Post Post #40 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:11 am

In post 36, wgeurts wrote:
In post 22, Wisdom wrote:Because I like wagons. How do you feel about that?

Not good.

What are you going to do about that?

ISO · Post Post #41 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:12 am

In post 40, Wisdom wrote:
In post 36, wgeurts wrote:
In post 22, Wisdom wrote:Because I like wagons. How do you feel about that?

Not good.

What are you going to do about that?

Vote you as this is not sitting well with me.
VOTE: Wisdom

acryon · Post Post #42 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:13 am

In post 41, wgeurts wrote:
In post 40, Wisdom wrote:
In post 36, wgeurts wrote:
In post 22, Wisdom wrote:Because I like wagons. How do you feel about that?

Not good.

What are you going to do about that?

Vote you as this is not sitting well with me.
VOTE: Wisdom

So you said you wouldn't vote until there was more info.

This

is more info? Explain.

ISO · Post Post #43 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:15 am

In post 42, acryon wrote:
In post 41, wgeurts wrote:
In post 40, Wisdom wrote:
In post 36, wgeurts wrote:
In post 22, Wisdom wrote:Because I like wagons. How do you feel about that?

Not good.

What are you going to do about that?

Vote you as this is not sitting well with me.
VOTE: Wisdom

So you said you wouldn't vote until there was more info.
This
is more info? Explain.

It's weak info and very assumptious but ok:
You could well be trying to decieve people to look like your a joking town while you may be scum.
It's all the info I've got right now, it's time for me to wait for more.

acryon · Post Post #44 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:16 am

In post 43, wgeurts wrote:It's weak info and very assumptious but ok:
You could well be trying to decieve people to look like your a joking town while you may be scum.
It's all the info I've got right now, it's time for me to wait for more.

Mathdino · Post Post #45 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:19 am

@wgeurts: Yet if everyone did that, nothing would happen, haha. I used to hate RVS but it's important for reaction fishing.
^Not liking RVS isn't a scumtell though, if anything it's a noobtowntell IMO.

@Victor: So that way when I inevitably ISO Newbie I'll have a meta to compare to. I don't want to bother waiting until Newbie's got a wagon on (him? her?) to skim a meta.

@Newbie: Yeah linking would cool, thanks.

@acryon: I'm not gonna get random-lynched and I'm really bad at feeling anything during games, haha. Talk to me after the game and I'll let out the rage.
Not really sure what you want me to say to "Why are you town?" other than I got a town PM. I'm not going to self-meta (I don't even have a scum meta yet) and I don't appreciate people trying to prove how town they are since it's easily WIFOM'd.

Edit: ^Written before post #38, gimme a sec.

Mathdino · Post Post #46 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:23 am

Yeah now that you point that out, Wis, it kinda looks like Victor's fishing for anything "suspicious" that may not actually be scummy. Would've labeled that noobtown behaviour but the join date says otherwise.

FoS: that guy

@wgeurts: Wis got us out of RVS, which you don't seem to like much. If anything that's useful town behaviour; don't vote someone because you don't like their playstyle.

acryon · Post Post #47 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:25 am

In post 46, Mathdino wrote:Yeah now that you point that out, Wis, it kinda looks like Victor's fishing for anything "suspicious" that may not actually be scummy. Would've labeled that noobtown behaviour but the join date says otherwise.

FoS: that guy

Yeah, my vote stands. I'm interested to hear what Victor's intent was asking that?

ISO · Post Post #48 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:30 am

In post 46, Mathdino wrote:Yeah now that you point that out, Wis, it kinda looks like Victor's fishing for anything "suspicious" that may not actually be scummy. Would've labeled that noobtown behaviour but the join date says otherwise.

FoS: that guy

@wgeurts: Wis got us out of RVS, which you don't seem to like much. If anything that's useful town behaviour; don't vote someone because you don't like their playstyle.

I'm not, it's all a reaction test. For one you took it well by labeling me as newb and moving on. This is slightly town from you as you could have jumped on my BS reasons.
Anyway, there's nothing to gain here.
UNVOTE: Wisdom

acryon · Post Post #49 (ISO) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:33 am

In post 48, wgeurts wrote:
I'm not, it's all a reaction test. For one you took it well by labeling me as newb and moving on. This is slightly town from you as you could have jumped on my BS reasons.
Anyway, there's nothing to gain here.
UNVOTE: Wisdom

That's it? Why wouldn't you leave your vote on and keep some pressure to get more/better reactions out of Wisdom? Seems odd to say that there's nothing to gain there after one small exchange.