Robbery! At The Casino (Game Over)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Can we have a VC please mod?

Why you voting Desp, Nati?

[shos]

If you can tell me what explaining my town-reads accomplishes I'll think about it.

It will make those scumreading the slot change their opinions, and help us never lynch them, obviously. Why are you so evasive?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I haven't been evasive.

I don't like explaining town-reads, it's not like I'm just avoiding the question. I'm answering it and stating my position, I'm not sure how you equate that to being evasive.

I prefer to let people explain their scum-reads. Scum-reads are harder to fabricate, anybody can make up a town-read; especially someone who is scum because they know who is town. It's harder to explain a scum-read as scum because it's obviously fake and you know it to be wrong.

I'm not saying Ika is scum btw, because I'm still town-reading that slot. I would still like to see why he thinks both you and Desp are scum though, especially as he is voting PC and I really don't see how both Desp & PC can be scum.

[shos]

Well someone please fucking talk instead of explaibing why you arent, or FFS sheep me.

[Aronis]

Well someone please fucking talk instead of explaibing why you arent, or FFS sheep me.

Hi, shos! Will you help me lynch BBT?

[Majiffy]

Can we have a VC please mod?

*cranky old man cane rattle*

I said I was comin' gawdammit don't get yer panties in a twist

[Majiffy]

THIS IS A VOTECOUNT LOL

Desperado (3): Double Trouble, Perfect Chaos, Natirasha
theaceofspades (2): geraintm, Shos
Perfect Chaos (4): theaceofspades, BlueBloodedToffee, Desperado, ika
BlueBloodedToffee (1): Aronis

Not Voting: GrayFoxxxx
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 begins now and ends on Wednesday, October 22 at 2:30 PM Eastern

Accuracy never guaranteed. But

probably

accurate.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Desp wagon so scummy.

[Natirasha]

Why you voting Desp, Nati?

So I tell Formerfish I told you so.

[geraintm]

I've seen scum claim masons together. that's why they're not in the top 3 right now.
and that team sounds like 2 of my 3 best townreads and PC which I've got nothing bad on. so, no, lol.

Catching up.
I hate this game. I think I've tried reading the last 72 hours of posts 3 or 4 times and i get nothing obvious from it. Just nothing is happening in this game.

Anyways, better start posting some where.

Thought I would reply to this.
If you at all went through my pas games as scum, you would know I woudl never, ever do something like faking a claim like this. Just goes against every instinct I have to keep my head down. I hated one partner who bussed another one of the team, just hate that style of play from me as scum.

So no, I am not scum claiming mason.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

So I tell Formerfish I told you so.

Lynching 'town' to satisfy your ego.

Anti-town at best, scummy at worst.

[geraintm]

@ beck. desp is pretty null. one line responses. nothing much to go on. could just as easily be scum as it could be lazy town. null

I really don't think BBT is scum. That's actually my strongest townread after beck/ika. Shos is null leaning towards scum just because it's almost exactly hyalf and half scum posts and town posts.

Desp is just lurky so i'm not willing to lynch him really. But the fatalism is a bit scummy.

I'd still like to lynch PC

These two don't match. Their strongest town read is beck, someone they think is pretty meh and could go either way. This is so non committal .

But, last few days I am not getting much from this person, it is all kinda wishy washy.
(I realise the hypocrisy of this coming from me admitting that I am finding the game very wishy washy and my posts have been bad lately)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I think you have read those quotes wrong.

In the first post, he is responding

to

Beck, talking

about

Desp.

[geraintm]

I think you have read those quotes wrong.

In the first post, he is responding

to

Beck, talking

about

Desp.

Oh. That does make more sense,
....

[geraintm]

Bbt

His posts 619 to 719 are just nothing. Zero content
After that a lot of his posts are just asking for other opinions.

And after this, 802 is asking for someone else's reads.
805 what do you think?
I don't like this style of posting, it keeps you in the game and visible but not putting forward much of your own i do for others to go on.

Does for for pc though which is self consistent. But none of his asking for others opinions seems to have informed his choices. I am not sure why he asks all the time.

The move around 807 to include nati in his scum list I can't find precedent for.

Post 1007 has an opinion on scum, wish he expanded it more.

Overall, I hope it is just a posting style thing that rubs me up the wrong way. He's done nothing wrong, not scummy, but this is exactly the kind of player who I don't spot as scum and get beat by

[geraintm]

Natasha - I see no value in this person.
Can very easily be lynched with a good chance of it not hurting town at all if worst comes to worst. If a wagon formed here I would not be sad to be on it.

[geraintm]

Ger and Aronis, have either of you drawn Mason before?

Vote: Perfect Chaos

I didn't get this vote of perfect chaos.
It just seemed at the time opportunistic jumping on the last vote in the game.
I wonder if reading last this it will ever look any better?

[geraintm]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aronis

You know what, this is what I don't like about desperado.
This vote here

imo, the day dragged on too long and town lost interest. this suggests that there is scum within the lurking players.

this is supported by the fact that town was essentially split on three different wagons, and no one really made a push for a compromise until today.

I personally think we should no lynch today, and this will be one of the few times I actually suggest this. Here's why:
a) Given how unfocused town currently is, no-lynching and possibly adding extra days to the game benefits town

b) Unless town magically shows up in the final minutes, scum has control of who gets lynched

c) The top suggested compromise is on Aronis, and is being led by one of my scum reads, so screw that

I'm going to vote Pants specifically for the boldest statements, which are directly contradictory and suggest that everything he's saying about the gamestate is just bullshit, otherwise he wouldn't have said them both in the same post.

Vote: Dr Pants

Then this

Vote: Aronis

Then that

I can do geraintm

Unvote
Vote: geraintm

Then that

4 votes in a row on townies.
To me it is fishy.
Especially when I look at his vote on planar chaos and I thought it looked bad.
I have desperado in my naughty pile...

[geraintm]

don't do that shos. explaining town reads is always bad.

ika i'd like to know what you're getting at. And i'm STILL not sure why people are scumreading BBT.

im trying to figure out why something isnt adding up

I hate vagueness spike this.
Most of the posts seems fine, seems an attempt at putting people in piles (even if disagree with some of them *coughdespcough*) but for a replacement I have been happy with their play.
I can't see me wanting to lynch them today. But needs to stop being vague about things and just come out with thoughts, not hint that they'll come later

[geraintm]

Double trouble - I believe they are town. Blundering outing yourself like that just doesn't seem contrived. I won't be voting for them today

[geraintm]

Is gray fox in this game?
Post 342 to 821 to nothing.

Mod???

[geraintm]

I'd love to see grayfoxxx, acem and possible geraintm dead. I don't see a reason why lynch PC.

Aronis is obv town btw, I hope people understand why I am not looking at him.

Shos now, I think they are the last to look at.
This post confused me, how can I be suspicious but not aronis. There is no way right now we are not linked in for the rest of the game as being on the same side.

[geraintm]

Shos, pretty meh. Not sure why they are disbelieving on my claim. But they'll get over it.

[geraintm]

VOTE: desperado
But gray fox needs to be replaced.

[Natirasha]

Lynching 'town' to satisfy your ego.

Anti-town at best, scummy at worst.

You just don't understand, maaan.