NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

[Pine]

@House - It's one of the few really solid scumhunting tips that's fairly consistent, because the temptation to do it on scum's part is really strong

[Psyche]

i pretty disagree that it's very consistent
but i suppose to check i'd need a very consistent marker of SK hunting

[Marquis]

psa: i'm horribly sick and will get to this game later tonight or tomorrow morning. sorry for all the prod dodging

[Skybird]

Feel better soon Marquis.

[Skybird]

Yeah, but Town wouldn't be worried about that trap. They've got zero to lose by just saying "Nope, not masons, wtf are you talking about?"

It's not a trap to Town

Vote: Psyche

that's moon logic, man

no one has anything to

lose

from saying "Nope, not masons"
but look at all there is to gain

You claim you ran with this because you wanted adventure and had stuff to gain. What have you gained that has helped town?

[Pine]

In before he mentions that it derailed the legit wagon on him

[shaddowez]

Sorry for the absence, life got busier than expected. Will be back Sunday night

[Skybird]

If I remember correctly, Psyche only had 2 votes on him when Marquis claimed and this happened on day 2 when we still needed several people for a lynch. How is that a legit wagon?

[Psyche]

it made it a lot easier for me to avoid a mislynch
and increased the odds that i'd be nked

[Pine]

To be fair, Skybird, the only deep reading I've done of the thread's backlog was ISOing Marquis and Psyche. Their posts suggested the Mason claim was a rescue attempt on a wagon against Psyche. I could be wrong

[House]

it made it a lot easier for me to avoid a mislynch

and increased the odds that i'd be nked

Did you want to be NK'ed?

If so, why?

[Skybird]

notscience, in newb games you ask about lynching all liars. Why shouldn't our next two lynches be Psyche and Marquis?

[House]

notscience, in newb games you ask about lynching all liars. Why shouldn't our next two lynches be Psyche and Marquis?

LAL is bad, generally speaking. There are scenarios where lying is beneficial to town's win con.

That said, I can't figure out how this situation could possibly benefit town

[Skybird]

I did go back and check on when the claim happened. It was on day 3 when town needed 8 to lynch.

[Skybird]

I agree House, but since everyone in the newb games always say lynch all liars I'd like to hear what ns has to say about this situation.

[Pine]

LAL is a stupid strategy. It dismisses the notion of Town gambits.

My takeaway from this is a Town Marquis trying to rescue a townread that happened to be scum

[Psyche]

im not scum

[Pine]

Cool story bro

[Skybird]

Yes, I agree that LAL is bad strategies because sometimes town does need to lie to keep info from scum. But if you disagree with it in newb games, you are auto scum. lol

Psyche, other than saying you aren't scum, how about a defense on why we shouldn't lynch you?

[Skybird]

Marquis, come back and tell your side of the story.

[Psyche]

uh
my replacement will do a good job
you shouldn't lynch me because everything you guys think I've done because I'm scum have in fact been done because I am town and myself

[Wake1]

VC incoming.

[notscience]

VOTE: pine

Because predecessors

[reinoe]

VOTE: Psyche
I'd still rather lynch PereV but fuck waiting for someone to replace into this game and then having the mod add more time to this day. To hell with that.

[Pine]

This is also the third time he's threatened to replace out of this game while continuing to post. It's not credible