Touhou: MitLoF ~ Makai Mix (Game Over)

[Curiosity]

^_^~

I just watched the funniest episode from TGW. So happy-sass is what you get

~M

[Dreams of an Absolution]

Pie, I think you're scum.

I also think Kagami is scum.

I don't think you're aligned.

[Curiosity]

hmmm

is curiosity town?

curious.

ns

are you saying you've become incapable of reading me?

~Wis

[Dreams of an Absolution]

Wisdom I value your judgments.

Please respond to me.

[notscience]

I'm not saying it

I'm implying it

[Curiosity]

Meh. Would you say she has been obvscum?

~Wis

She has been in a few of my games before, but usually she's a smooth criminal. I'm paraphrasing from our QT, but the case this game is that she's being very slightly manipulative in her specific area of expertise--analytics. This doesn't make sense, I know, but reading her posts in isolation it sounds like she's trying to construct a specific narrative. Kagami isn't one who is succeptible to real confbias, so I lean towards scum.

No I meant, MS argued that kagami is not obvscum as scum, does that mean he considers kagami to have been obvscum this game?

~Wis

[Curiosity]

or maybe it was you and not ms

~Wis

[Dreams of an Absolution]

Oh, well, that's for him to answer.

I'm out for the night.

[pieguyn]

Explain?

there is a distinct lack of town motivation in any of it

it was basically just her trying to shrug the wagon on her off

her scum reads supposedly consist of 3/4 ppl who wagoned her, and then beeboy. the OMGUS is strong in this one. yet, despite that, she didn't seem to care at all about interacting with anyone on the wagon - like the part where she thinks Jingle's case is supposedly so ridiculous and that he's scum, but puts 0 effort into dismantling said case and showing why it's disingenuous/comes from a scum agenda/etc. I don't understand what she was trying to gain with her question towards beeboy (1402), and it feels more like scum trying to spin the narrative that the wagon on her is unwarranted as opposed to anything town would ask.

do you disagree?

[pieguyn]

was this Nat?

if so, I'd love to hear why you have a scum read on me

[Dreams of an Absolution]

Meh. Would you say she has been obvscum?

~Wis

She has been in a few of my games before, but usually she's a smooth criminal. I'm paraphrasing from our QT, but the case this game is that she's being very slightly manipulative in her specific area of expertise--analytics. This doesn't make sense, I know, but reading her posts in isolation it sounds like she's trying to construct a specific narrative. Kagami isn't one who is succeptible to real confbias, so I lean towards scum.

No I meant, MS argued that kagami is not obvscum as scum, does that mean he considers kagami to have been obvscum this game?

~Wis

Hi

There is a giant wagon on kagami, that kind of means that she is "obv scum", isn't it? I mean, I don't think so but yeah any good scum player won't be wagoned day 1

-sonic

[Dreams of an Absolution]

was this Nat?

if so, I'd love to hear why you have a scum read on me

Yea those were Nati. She's going to bed though so gotta wait till tomorrow!

[Curiosity]

Not really, MS. Most of the wagon was people going "sure, let's hop on it and see what happens". It doesn't mean she has been obvscum in any way.

Also, strong scum players are as good as the control they have over the game. I don't doubt that Kagami-scum could maybe start a game strongly and convince everyone she is obvtown. But she didn't have a chance to do such a thing here, and the game got out of her control. Couldn't you see her reaction to being wagoned as a scum player who is demotivated to do much because they're not controlling things? I sure can.

~Wis

[pieguyn]

Yea those were Nati. She's going to bed though so gotta wait till tomorrow!

tell her to get in here and explain why she's scumreading me when she gets back

cos if she's reading me the way I think she is, she of all people should know better than to do that

[Curiosity]

And might be kinda irrelevant, but I for some reason associate Kagami with Cabd and I've seen Cabd acting this same way towards being wagoned as scum (in Perpetual) so I can't help but think this might be similar.

~Wis

[notscience]

See

I feel like you guys are town

but wicked is a thing

[Curiosity]

See

I feel like you guys are town

but wicked is a thing

Ugh. I realllyyyyyyy want to say you are town, but this whole paranoia pill again. not liking it. One step forward, one step back.

Also:

Yep, I like this Song. Hell has frozen over, frozen over. >_>^

~M

[notscience]

You do realize I'm going to intentionally trip every single tell I'm aware of this game correct

[Curiosity]

You do realize I'm going to intentionally trip every single tell I'm aware of this game correct

yes and you do realize that is going to tick me off the whole game, right? Because I need to read you correct.

~M

[Curiosity]

ly*

[notscience]

And would it help your read at all if I didn't trip any of the ones I was aware of?

No it wouldn't

So I dont' see why it matters because if I intentionally avoid it you'll be like

"oh hes scum avoiding the tell"

[pieguyn]

also I disagree with "xxx isn't obvscum as scum" logic, just via principle

someone who plays a nightmare scumgame one game can suck ass the next scumgame. so, just because Kagami reacted in a weak way to her wagon doesn't make her town. I agree it's possible she is just apathetic this game for some reason

however, when you discount that and look at the motivation, it's still scum motivated. so yeah

[Curiosity]

If you are town why would you bother tripping them at all? No, there's no intent to seriously sit here and drop every single scum tell I made you aware of. No, I wouldn't have made that comment, but you are making it THAT much harder to sort you. I'm already getting friction from someone I can *kinda* read and I don't need the same friction from you.

You are town, I want to keep believing you are town, but stop it, please?

~M

[notscience]

Fine.

[Curiosity]

Thank you.

<33 btw.

(For answering beeboy's question like you did. I just didn't want to crabby answer it. )

~M