Newbie 1543: Nightmare Mafia (Scum Win)

[serrapaladin]

And then this:

Town

Brian
Copper
OC
Serra
BBT
Jagged

Scum

Jagged and BBT are my highest acum reads however they have ignored each other most of the game (until recentley) and BBT wants a push against Jagged. I may have to fully rethink BBT if OC or Jagged ever flips scum for the reasons I'd given before in earlier posts.

[serrapaladin]

You call that consistent?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Your change in activity levels this DP is also a clear indicator that you're scum.

You couldn't risk being this active with Wgeurts alive because you would have had to interact with him a lot.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I think I have made my point with Wgeurts reads.

[copper223]

@Copper, I believe we could confirm BBT's role 99% if we kill OC. However I'm not willing to just wagon OC, will you also analyse OC with me?
We need to be fully sure of ourselves.

This makes sense only if OC fllps scum.

People could of killed thor as it would make BBT look bad and they liked the idea of a BBT mis-lynch.

Who liked the BBT Misslynch, def. OC

[copper223]

All the case analysis Wgeurts did on BBT D2 for why he was starting to see BBT as town was based on the idea that if OC is scum then BBT is town, and he never even considered the alternative scenario.

[serrapaladin]

Your change in activity levels this DP is also a clear indicator that you're scum.

You couldn't risk being this active with Wgeurts alive because you would have had to interact with him a lot.

So you start asking me questions and because I reply I'm scum? Had I ignored your posts, you'd probably have called me scum for that, too?

[serrapaladin]

All the case analysis Wgeurts did on BBT D2 for why he was starting to see BBT as town was based on the idea that if OC is scum then BBT is town, and he never even considered the alternative scenario.

I could see that. Either way, I really don't think BBT is scum:

unless jagged is the other scum, you should really have waited for intent to hammer

Why?
I knew BBT could switch at any moment and I could draw out the 2nd PR.

[serrapaladin]

bbt: who are you voting tomorrow out of brian and chris?

[copper223]

Ok here's where I'm at.

To mee the most likely mafia is OC, followed by Serra.

For today I'm pretty sure BBT, Jagged and Brian are town.

VOTE: OC

[copper223]

@Serra
If you are town your town read of OC seems based on the same tells you used for Wgeurts so you should re-evaluate.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Copper, I feel all the points I am making are falling on deaf ears.

Please read my ISO.

If you can provide more evidence on anybody with more links to Wguerts than Serra, I will gladly listen.

Pedit - I will not vote anybody but Serra. For the rest of this game.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I have to admire your fight, Serra.

Well played.

[serrapaladin]

I will not vote anybody but Serra. For the rest of this game.

Man do I want to hammer myself so you can struggle and look like a complete moron tomorrow, but I probably shouldn't do that to copper.

[copper223]

If you can provide more evidence on anybody with more links to Wguerts than Serra, I will gladly listen.

Pedit - I will not vote anybody but Serra. For the rest of this game.

This doesn't even make sense.

Are you willing to tunnel on OC tomorrow if I give you the Serra lynch today and you are wrong?

(Also I reserve the right to flame you for being a shitty mafia player if Serra is town, of course if you are right then I'll say you are brilliant lol.)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yeah, I'll tunnel Chris tomorrow if Serra flips town.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Please self-hammer Serra.

[serrapaladin]

I'll leave that to copper.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't mind who does it.

So long as you get lynched.

[serrapaladin]

I really hope you're town so you get to feel bad about how stupid you're being.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I am town.

I always feel good when scum get lynched though.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Just waiting for Copper to drop the hammer.

[copper223]

Yeah, I'll tunnel Chris tomorrow if Serra flips town.

Sigh who is talking to deaf ears here... tomorrow, if there is a tomorrow,

you have to no lynch!

Ok there is no way town is getting away from Serra today regardless of alignment, I'm pretty confident that:

- Jagged is likey town, I have seen him only give mafia reads as town in other settings, his interaction with Wgeurts points to him being town, also the way Wgeurts talked about his scum partner giving him tips during the night makes me think Wgeurts sees his scum partner as more senior, Wgeurts wouldn't treat and talk about newbscum in the same way.
- BBT is my second town, if he gets to final three at least think about him being mafia, because the way he is scum hunting, he is driving town, and mafia has very little reason to let him live as town.

- Brian there is an outside chance he is mafia but it's unlikely, he had little reason to go against wgeurts day 1 and help put him at L-1, he specifically changed his read for it after he started with me being the scummier of the two, he wouldn't have gotten a lot of credit for the buss either the way he went about it, I also liked his interaction with me D2 when giving his read on why the intent from Jagged was scummy, that did not look at all fabricated. But again, at final 3 take this with a grain of salt.

- OC can be mafia because he hard defended Wgeurts after I unvoted him at L-1 (why not do it at L-1 as town if you really care about him? The fact you wait for it to be at L-2, and therefore maybe savable before he flips, is more mafia indicative) plus his voting connection with Wgeurts, the way he accused Wgeurts D2 after Wgeurts turned on him, the BBT is more likely town analysis from Wgeurts, his sheep vote here on Serra (this assumes the game doesn't end today).

Good luck guys!

gg Serra.

VOTE: Serra

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Thanks Copper!

[serrapaladin]

Good luck, town.