I imagine I do not look very good today, really no defense other than I suck. I have been around long enough I should have better reads. So I get it if I am the lynch today.
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this is ridiculous.
In post 1603, Kalimar wrote:I think I'd rather vote Amy today over anyone, but it's not really on the table. I feel like I don't have a good intuitive grasp of this game, but I do think that there is scum in AFF/CDB.
So I'll keep it simple.
Vote: CDB
that is three people who thought CDB/chaos was scum dead.....however, at this point, I just dont think CDB would have offed someone who suspected him ESPECIALLY after I went on and on about it yesterday (but it is all WIFOM). Also Farside, doesnt make sense as scum (at least not the scum theory I had in my head yesterday) so she is down on my list too. I really thought farisde and CDB were scum together...I need to go back and reread Bel (and scrambles). at this point, I dont have a clue.
Well, I'd be lying if I said I was confident by the time I left things Yesterday that Scrambles would flip scum but it does helpfully reassure me that I'm not being a complete idiot. That said, if the worst comes to the worst we do at least have time for anyone who can't get over Chaos to get it out of your systems. Rather not, though.
Need to look over Belisarius and Scrambles again but the flips don't make me
not
want to start with a thorough look at acryon again, even bearing in mind my crisis of confidence Yesterday.
what's the difference between CKD defending Beli-scum and acryon defending scrambles-scum?
"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).
Kalimar's hammer was pretty solid town material. Most people didn't think Toby was suspicious, particularly in later play. And Kalimar wasn't exactly making a hard push for CDB.
Looks more like a solid but safe kill for scum, rather than a specific attempt to divert attention away from the dead player's suspicions.
"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).
Riddle is still solid town for me. Going to throw titus in there in the solid town box as well, as my worries from late yesterday have dissipated.
Feeling better about CDB. Would put at lean town.
Still nullish on acryon, but not liking any of the cases made against him as of late yesterday.
That leaves Amy, CKD, and farside. Will look into each soon.
"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).
I still stand by my assertion that the cases presented on scrambles were mostly bad. But sometimes we get there anyway. I'm definitely going to have to take another look at pretty much everyone, as this definitely changes things.
OBSERVATIONS:
- Amy looks good for her first-on-the-wagon D1 and D2 votes for Beli, under the theory that scum wouldn't lead a wagon against a fellow scum.
- CDB looks good for being on both the Beli-scum (D2) and scrambles-scum (D3) wagons, under the theory that scum wouldn't bus both of their scumbuddies. (Same goes for likely town Riddle and Titus.)
- acryon looks good by way of scrambles' actions, under the theory that scrambles-scum would not closely associate himself with a scumbuddy as he did with acryon by following acryon's vote both on the Beli-wagon (D2) and the Titus-wagon (D3).
- CKD looks bad for never lynching any scum.
- farside looks bad for not lynching scum D1 or D2, and lynching scrambles only as a "ugh, if I have to."
- If scum bussed scrambles, it was either CDB or farside.
"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).
Green Crayons agree with all but Acryon and Farside. Acryon's shift on me as I started voting scrambles reflects more psnicked scum. Realize no town got on my wagon but they both pushed it heavily. This sends me back to Inuyasha mafia. I was the Birds of Prey hydra. We had all the scum on Day 5. They rapid fire voted us and parked. Same situation here.
As for Farside, Beli attacked them had day 1 for going after the scrambles slot.
what's the difference between CKD defending Beli-scum and acryon defending scrambles-scum?
Mainly gut, but Acryon's defense reads as more sincere newbie to me. Although he was wrong, I could understand his POV with regards to the fact he could just be an 'accidental liar'. CKD's defense reads as more desperate to me.
what's the difference between CKD defending Beli-scum and acryon defending scrambles-scum?
Mainly gut, but Acryon's defense reads as more sincere newbie to me. Although he was wrong, I could understand his POV with regards to the fact he could just be an 'accidental liar'. CKD's defense reads as more desperate to me.
I just don't buy the fact that here, the last two scum (hypothetically acryon & scrambles) pile on to the Titus wagon for seemingly arbituary reasons about her playstyle. Most newbie scum like to distance away from each other due to feeling a little more "self-conscious" about their playstyle. I can't understand how Acryon-scum and Scrambles-scum would both vote Titus as they have in this VC.
what's the difference between CKD defending Beli-scum and acryon defending scrambles-scum?
Mainly gut, but Acryon's defense reads as more sincere newbie to me. Although he was wrong, I could understand his POV with regards to the fact he could just be an 'accidental liar'. CKD's defense reads as more desperate to me.
Very buzzwordy. Support needed.
Sorry, that's all I've got from that end. I trust my intuition on the matter, though.
In post 1660, Titus wrote:Green Crayons agree with all but Acryon and Farside. Acryon's shift on me as I started voting scrambles reflects more psnicked scum. Realize no town got on my wagon but they both pushed it heavily. This sends me back to Inuyasha mafia. I was the Birds of Prey hydra. We had all the scum on Day 5. They rapid fire voted us and parked. Same situation here.
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To be fair, I first commented on you doing things that were stupid before you voted scrambles. And I didn't switch to you directly after your vote on scrambles... You continued to post naked reads left and right, and eventually I recognized this pattern. You can keep trying to associate my case on you with the fact that you voted scrambles to try and make my case look bad, but it isn't going to work.
I just don't buy the fact that here, the last two scum (hypothetically acryon & scrambles) pile on to the Titus wagon for seemingly arbituary reasons about her playstyle. Most newbie scum like to distance away from each other due to feeling a little more "self-conscious" about their playstyle. I can't understand how Acryon-scum and Scrambles-scum would both vote Titus as they have in this VC.
In post 1660, Titus wrote:Green Crayons agree with all but Acryon and Farside. Acryon's shift on me as I started voting scrambles reflects more psnicked scum. Realize no town got on my wagon but they both pushed it heavily. This sends me back to Inuyasha mafia. I was the Birds of Prey hydra. We had all the scum on Day 5. They rapid fire voted us and parked. Same situation here.
To be fair, I first commented on you doing things that were stupid before you voted scrambles. And I didn't switch to you directly after your vote on scrambles... You continued to post naked reads left and right, and eventually I recognized this pattern. You can keep trying to associate my case on you with the fact that you voted scrambles to try and make my case look bad, but it isn't going to work.[/quote]
The naked reads bullshit was already torn to shreds.
I just don't buy the fact that here, the last two scum (hypothetically acryon & scrambles) pile on to the Titus wagon for seemingly arbituary reasons about her playstyle. Most newbie scum like to distance away from each other due to feeling a little more "self-conscious" about their playstyle. I can't understand how Acryon-scum and Scrambles-scum would both vote Titus as they have in this VC.
In post 1660, Titus wrote:Green Crayons agree with all but Acryon and Farside. Acryon's shift on me as I started voting scrambles reflects more psnicked scum. Realize no town got on my wagon but they both pushed it heavily. This sends me back to Inuyasha mafia. I was the Birds of Prey hydra. We had all the scum on Day 5. They rapid fire voted us and parked. Same situation here.
To be fair, I first commented on you doing things that were stupid before you voted scrambles. And I didn't switch to you directly after your vote on scrambles... You continued to post naked reads left and right, and eventually I recognized this pattern. You can keep trying to associate my case on you with the fact that you voted scrambles to try and make my case look bad, but it isn't going to work.
The naked reads bullshit was already torn to shreds.[/quote]
I disagree completely. Why do you think my vote remained on you until the end of the day?
Here's the thing. I am fine suspending the Titus focus once again for the moment, hence why he remains unvoted. But when one of his primary reasons for thinking I am scum is the idea that I went after him because he went after scrambles, then I am kind of forced into that discussion, aren't I?
I trust my intuition on the matter, though.