Newbie 1544 - Shakespeare Mafia: GAME OVER!

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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:21 am

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Go, Philostrate,
Stir up the Athenian youth to merriments;
Awake the pert and nimble spirit of mirth;
Turn melancholy forth to funerals;
The pale companion is not for our pomp.


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With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: October 28, Midnight Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2014-10-28 21:00:00)

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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:24 am

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To tell the truth, the last couple of pages can be summarized in a couple of sentences.

(1) Aphix keeps repeating the same things over and over, mostly in long posts. Klingonette doesn't know how to handle this.
(2) Both Aphix and Shinobi moved their votes from WBO to Klingon.
(3) House also moved from Shinobi to Klingon, though he had said that he hadn't wanted to move his vote at all. House, why do you think that Klingon is scummier than Shinobi?
(4) WBO is still terrible. He resembles me to Bitmap, a player whom I replaced in another newbie. He (I) was town but almost got lynched. (His gameplay is similar to someone else's too but because of the site rules I can't tell more about this.) Still, there's the fact that he replaced into a lurk-slot, while Bitmap and the "other player" had been in their game from scratch.
(5) Klingonette mentioned that she hadn't read my posts before. But she
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(6) Neither Nacho, nor Luca have shared their reads yet. I'd really like to see those! Plus, more content from EvilRegalKitty too!
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:26 am

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In post 401, Aneninen wrote:
House, why do you think that Klingon is scummier than Shinobi?


Where did I say Klingon was "scummier" than Shinobi?

Of the 2, Klingon's is the most viable wagon.
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:27 am

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Oh, and meta. I know Klingon's play style from off-site. She's usually much better at analyzing those outside of her tunnel.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:21 am

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In post 401, Aneninen wrote:(1) Aphix keeps repeating the same things over and over, mostly in long posts. Klingonette doesn't know how to handle this.


Care to point where she actually answers my questions or explains why I'm scum or just continues yelling scum scum scum while closing her eyes and plugging her ears?
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:55 am

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@Aphix
(1) "doesn't know how to handle this" – mind that part too.
(2) I'm waiting for some answers from her as well.
(3) On the other hand, I've ISO-ed her again and it strange... I thought she had produced more relevant content.

I'm not saying anymore until (2) happens because I don't want to affect her answers.
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:36 pm

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In post 275, House wrote:
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Ride that "support role" line as long as you can, it's still anti-town to not be actively engaged and developing/providing reads.

I am still actively developing reads and providing them in thread: the only thing being a support role as opposed to a leading role is that I'm not bullshitting reads or being overaggressive with them: if I don't know, I don't know.
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:38 pm

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In post 281, WBOCampfire1104 wrote:New logic: If you cannot find reasons for scum, don't have any.

That said, I have no reads.

And, House, pick apart the scumbucket that is my ISO.

If you don't have any reads, why did you post a reads list?
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:59 pm

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In post 64, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 29, aphix wrote:So why the vote on him?


So why not?

Is there some rule I'm unaware of that says that you're allowed to tell the noobs how to vote?

Your overreaction to an RVS vote makes it pretty clear, you and Nacho are scumbuddies.

Okay, game over, Town wins.

Yay!

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This is a strange post to me. I would expect Klingon to vote Aphix at this point in time: this is the point where her scumread on Aphix seemed more serious, and although she expressed suspicions of me being a scumpartner, it makes more sense to vote someone who had posted things that you disliked as opposed to vote someone who didn't post at all.
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:02 pm

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In post 72, Klingoncelt wrote:
Vote: Aphix

And here, I don't understand what spurned you to switch your vote here: you were just starting to find issue with the things I was posting, and then you switch to Aphix?
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:25 pm

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In post 274, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 273, fferyllt wrote:
In post 261, Klingoncelt wrote:@fferyllt - could Rosylily be prodded please? I'd like to hear more from her.


She has been prodded. She has until tomorrow morning to respond because the prod occurred on the weekend.


Ooops... Thank you!

It's difficult to get a good set of reads when so many people are lurking/replacing out.

One of my other complaints is the lack of content between Klingon's last quoted post and this one: everything in the middle is a complaint on Aphix's personality, but it makes sense that content dies with high lurker and replacement count.
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:29 pm

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In post 398, aphix wrote:Yeah. I know you said posts. But then you have no context. as I said and you disagreed with. So I'll repeat. Without reading the games. You have no context. Which makes it very hard to read anything. Also, if you werent wrong. You'd provide examples to support all of this, but you can't. However I can iso you in this game and provide ALL the examples of what I'm accusing you of.


Keep trying. And keep failing. I read the games enough, found out who was playing, who won and lost, and read the posts around yours. I found out what I needed to know.


Go to post 156. I have my games at USMB listed there. You should read them, they're amusing.
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:33 pm

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In post 399, House wrote:
In post 397, Klingoncelt wrote:Wanna know what I got from reading everyone's posts?

From my notes:

WBOCampfire - Goofball. Hasn't rolled Scum in previous games.

Luca Blight - A Mal-like Brit. A tiny bit nicer and more bland as Scum. Gives better reads as Town.

Aneninen - Haven't read his/her posts yet.

Shinobi (SE) - Played for a long time on other sites, played a bunch of games here. Is above average but plays by the book. Is same town or scum.

aphix (SE) - Definitely aggro and reactive, far more so as scum. Played a bunch of games here.

Evil Regals (SE) - Can be humorless, especially as Scum.

Nachomamma8 (IC) - Is said to give good reads. I haven't read him as he's likely to replace out.


I'm not part of everyone? :(

[butthurt]


I've got your meta from USMB. :mrgreen:
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:41 pm

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In post 403, House wrote:Oh, and meta. I know Klingon's play style from off-site. She's usually much better at analyzing those outside of her tunnel.


Yeah, but at USMB the other players and I were there for years before the mafia games started. It's much easier to get inside their heads.

Most players here are complete strangers.

It's also hard to properly analyze when half the players replace out, and you know how hard it is to see the big picture when 2 or more players don't post.
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:56 pm

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In post 401, Aneninen wrote:To tell the truth, the last couple of pages can be summarized in a couple of sentences.

(1) Aphix keeps repeating the same things over and over, mostly in long posts. Klingonette doesn't know how to handle this.
(2) Both Aphix and Shinobi moved their votes from WBO to Klingon.
(3) House also moved from Shinobi to Klingon, though he had said that he hadn't wanted to move his vote at all. House, why do you think that Klingon is scummier than Shinobi?
(4) WBO is still terrible. He resembles me to Bitmap, a player whom I replaced in another newbie. He (I) was town but almost got lynched. (His gameplay is similar to someone else's too but because of the site rules I can't tell more about this.) Still, there's the fact that he replaced into a lurk-slot, while Bitmap and the "other player" had been in their game from scratch.
(5) Klingonette mentioned that she hadn't read my posts before. But she
had
given me an answer in . Plus, she called me "his/her" and I'd explained it before that I'm a "he". I'd like to see her explanation for those things. (And watch out there, I'm a Romulan fan, so one sneaky move and you can see plenty of Warbirds decloaking! ^_^)
(6) Neither Nacho, nor Luca have shared their reads yet. I'd really like to see those! Plus, more content from EvilRegalKitty too!


(1) I was gobsmacked at the way an SE treated a brand-new noob here. At USMB we don't do that, we're much nicer to new players. We try to get the better known scummy-looking ones lynched first.

(2) Because Scumteam?

(5) I haven't read every post you've made on this site yet. I'll be doing that tonight or tomorrow. Sorry about the gender mixup.

(6) I agree, I need more content here from Luca and Nacho.
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:00 pm

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In post 408, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 64, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 29, aphix wrote:So why the vote on him?


So why not?

Is there some rule I'm unaware of that says that you're allowed to tell the noobs how to vote?

Your overreaction to an RVS vote makes it pretty clear, you and Nacho are scumbuddies.

Okay, game over, Town wins.

Yay!

In/next

This is a strange post to me. I would expect Klingon to vote Aphix at this point in time: this is the point where her scumread on Aphix seemed more serious, and although she expressed suspicions of me being a scumpartner, it makes more sense to vote someone who had posted things that you disliked as opposed to vote someone who didn't post at all.


Where I come from what I did is known as snark.

@Nachomamma8 - I'm just curious here, why do you think Aphix went so batshit over my vote for you?
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:01 pm

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In post 409, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 72, Klingoncelt wrote:
Vote: Aphix

And here, I don't understand what spurned you to switch your vote here: you were just starting to find issue with the things I was posting, and then you switch to Aphix?


Aphix's posts drowned yours out.
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:35 pm

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I love how I went from town lean to best wagon to null to scumteam based on nothing.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:03 pm

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In post 417, Shinobi wrote:I love how I went from town lean to best wagon to null to scumteam based on nothing.


I am having a hard time pinning down a read on you.

So why did you vote for me?
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:41 pm

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In post 415, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 408, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 64, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 29, aphix wrote:So why the vote on him?


So why not?

Is there some rule I'm unaware of that says that you're allowed to tell the noobs how to vote?

Your overreaction to an RVS vote makes it pretty clear, you and Nacho are scumbuddies.

Okay, game over, Town wins.

Yay!

In/next

This is a strange post to me. I would expect Klingon to vote Aphix at this point in time: this is the point where her scumread on Aphix seemed more serious, and although she expressed suspicions of me being a scumpartner, it makes more sense to vote someone who had posted things that you disliked as opposed to vote someone who didn't post at all.


Where I come from what I did is known as snark.

@Nachomamma8 - I'm just curious here, why do you think Aphix went so batshit over my vote for you?

I understand you were snarling, but it seems strange snark if you didn't have legitimate suspicions on Aphix at that point.

I don't know why he reacted as strongly to the vote: I have no idea why people have reacted as strongly as they have to many events this game though, so it isn't exactly a particularly unique event.
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:22 pm

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Just a heads up, baring something actually happening. I'm done today until I see klingons flip.
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:27 pm

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Not feeling a Klingon wagon.

Back home, I go.

VOTE: Shinobi
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:46 pm

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In post 420, aphix wrote:Just a heads up, baring something actually happening. I'm done today until I see klingons flip.


As hard as you've been at me, what do you think your chances would be if I got lynched, as I would flip Town?
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:52 pm

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In post 422, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 420, aphix wrote:Just a heads up, baring something actually happening. I'm done today until I see klingons flip.


As hard as you've been at me, what do you think your chances would be if I got lynched, as I would flip Town?


Considering you aren't making any attempt at anything indicating a town play. Probably less then fifteen percent chance you are town.
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:09 pm

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Actually it's 100% that I am Town.

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