Magic: The Gathering,GO TEAM MS!

[bv310]

Yep. Snapcaster/Fetches make the deck cost about 300ish tix, compared to 400ish for Pod and 110 for Burn. I'm not even sure I enjoy playing Modern online right now because of how many Delver decks I play against. Playing against the same deck every single game is really fucking boring.

[Natirasha]

pls just preboard Baloths/Thrun or something! Gitgud bv!

[bv310]

Ugh, preboarding one Thrun doesn't seem good enough, but it's definitely a start.

[Natirasha]

Preboard four Thruns and Spirit of the Labyrinth, duh!

[Thestatusquo]

In response to treasure cruise chord of calling for notion thief. GG mofo.

[bv310]

Man, watching the VSL was enough to want me to run Notion Thief. Watching someone Thief in response to Gush was just hilarious.

[Maestro]

Been getting back into this lately. Friend and I made a $10 bet on who could pull the most Mythics from a 2015 Fat Pack. I don't know the numbers or anything, we just both wanted new cards and it was something to do for fun. He pulled two

Chain Veils

; I pulled a

Sliver Hivelord

and

Nissa, Worldwaker

.

Yes, really.

[Klazam]

nice pulls. any fetches in the bunch?

[bv310]

There aren't any fetches in M15.

Related, I'm planning to buy a fatpack and/or box of Khans on Friday when my paycheque comes in. Haven't opened any sealed product since Conspiracy, and that was only one draft. I'm trying to figure out a bunch of 2-man drafts to play with the packs as well. Thinking either Solomon or Winston. Any other good ones I've missed?

[Klazam]

>.> reading comphrension fail

im a fan of rochester

[Natirasha]

Winston draft is some of the most fun I've had with magic.

[Thestatusquo]

There's a game store at the end of the universe, bv?

[bv310]

No, but there's mail service and Facetofacegames to ship to me. I've got me a hankering to start using PucaTrade again.

[Thestatusquo]

So this was posted on a magic group I'm a part of. I don't think I'm good enough at recognizing shuffling cheats to be able to tell if this is legit or not. Will people tell me what they think? Is this legit? Do we think Jared is cheating?

watch how jared shuffles the deck he shuffles untill he finds a land on the bottom then reverses shuffles placing the very bottom card on top of the deck. then shuffles without changing the card he has places on the top
So with the recent drama at the SCG this past weekend I figured I'd add some more. While looking through footage a featured matches. I stumbled upon this. SCGProv - Leg - Quarterfinals - Jared Boettcher v…: http://youtu.be/Z39UYLpbWx8 SCGINVI - Invitational - Round 12 - Jared Boettch…: http://youtu.be/ffU9Uw1rBsE look at the 5,11,30 min mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MGtexeawlg 4:04-4:30 trop on top, same pattern 6:40-7:00 Failed delver flip after fetch, same pattern following jared 180ing the deck to get a better look 9:30-9:45, failed delver flip, same pattern off fetch 14:30-14:50, wasteland off top after fetch when both players flooded, same pattern 45:21- Puts hymn to top when just holding bolt and lands are mostly gone. Same pattern

[Klazam]

Yes. I watched it.

I dabble in card tricks, and thats defintely cheating.

[Shanba]

Hm.

The five minute mark is the most suggestive. At 4:52 a card pops out, then the next shuffle could put that card to the top but I can't say for sure that it is (just that you could do it that way - you simply make sure that when you're pulling piles, the last pile is 1 card. Think there are probably slicker ways of doing that too.) Then the mash shuffles that he does don't look like the disturb the top card, it looks like he places them behind.

At 11 minutes, however, I really can't see anything suspicious at all. The mash shuffles he's doing look like they alternate between disturbing the top card and not disturbing it, so he can't really be holding a card there, unless there's something I really don't get and I am not experienced enough at this kind of thing to know.

At 30 minutes you don't see the deck? So uhh yeah. His head may be positioned in such a way that he can see the bottom card. But it looks to me like he's looking away.

Watching the next one. At 4:04 it looks similar to the one against jadine - one overhand shuffle to maybe put a card on top, then mashes that dont disturb the top card. Then an overhand that doesn't disturb (which is kinda fishy), then kent draws a land. Similar again at 6:40, he mash shuffles first and it looks normal, then he overhand shuffles, then the mashes look like they preserve the top card. Context is wrong at 9:30 - he's actually fetching post delver trigger, to shuffle away a card he doesn't want. However, again it looks like his mash shuffles don't disturb the top card after he overhand shuffles. It's actually super hard to tell whether he's cheating when you can't see where his head is looking though - is it pointing down? He does have that same pattern where he does that sketchy shuffle pattern. 14:30 looks sketchy again.

When trevor humphries was on camera earlier in the tournament I immediately thought it looked kinda odd, whereas Jared Boettcher has never stood out to me before.

Pre-edit: ninjad I guess

[Klazam]

shanba's right with those, basically. what stands out to me is the pull shuffles and overhands that leave the top card there. it is true that if we could see the head, and especially the eyes, we'd have more proof.

[chamber]

I don't know, looks like its just sloppy shuffling to me.

[Shanba]

I don't know, looks like its just sloppy shuffling to me.

It very well could be. With Trevor, the fact that he was clearly watching the bottom card made it pretty definitive, but without being able to see his head I really can't say for sure. The only times, where he's shuffling zoomed out, it looks like he's looking away, but he could be like, looking out fo the corner of his eye idk.

[Klazam]

What seals it to me, is the third video, the first time he shuffles the deck after a fetch- look at that top card, see how badly it wants to move, but its being kept there.

[Thestatusquo]

Thestatusquo (15:02)
I notice that the top card doesn't change as he shuffles for the last 50% of the shuffle
Thestatusquo (15:02)
But I don't think he can see the bottom of the deck with the way its pointed.
chamber (15:02)
I think its probably lazy suffeling
chamber (15:02)
like assuming he doesn't come off as a sleezeball IRL
Thestatusquo (15:03)
So its the assertion that he is finding a land, shifting it to the top and then not changing the top card
Thestatusquo (15:03)
I can see how mechanically that might be whats going on, but I can't see where and how he would be finding said land.

[Anatole Kuragin]

he looks down, sees if its a land or nonland, then puts 5 or 6 or 7 of those at the top of the deck while "shuffling" so you either get 5-7 lands or 5-7 nonlands

[Anatole Kuragin]

This is why you're supposed to overhand shuffle, so you cant look down and see the bottom card, mark it or manipulate it.

[Thestatusquo]

Ak, I don't think you've watched the video. He's not overhand shuffling, and he is only being accused of doing it with one card, We are not talking about the Humphrey's guy. That guy is a confirmed cheater in my eyes. I'm talking about Jared Boettcher, and I've linked several videos that someone on a magic group I'm in found suspect.

Full disclosure, Jared plays at the local store I play at in NY and I know him.

[Anatole Kuragin]

My b. Got this video and the humphries one floating around mixed up.

Seems like a lot of cheating being caught lately.