Open 570: Making Friends and Enemies (Mafia Wins!)

[Shinobi]

Fair enough I suppose.

[beastcharizard]

Vote Count

Peabody(4): BlueBloodedToffee, Malakittens, Shinobi, Huntress
Shinobi(2): Josh_B, Nero Cain
BlueBloodedToffee(2): goodmorning, Peabody

Not voting(2):davesaz, Aegor, ucitron00
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-10-27 20:00:00)

[Malakittens]

Dear beast,

huntress is not a double voter <3

Maybe this is a super secret bastard game where they are. You don't know.

Fixed

[Aegor]

Toffee pressures Metal Sonic

Metal Sonic tells Toffee to leave him alone


I don't like this at all. Town should be fine with scumhunting, even if it's on them (since they can say all their thoughts; as town, they have nothing to hide). Also, the uncle sonic thing bugs me.

Will post more when I have time

I could D1 PL on a 7 page week old game. It's probably better than a last minute D1 pressure lynch.

No. I think he's Scum because
1. He hasn't displayed any interest in the actual content of anyone's posts, preferring instead to substitute his own narrative over the actual words people are actually saying.
2. His attempts to control the game are incredibly manipulative (as are some of his posts).
3. His butting in at various times is annoying at best (implies scummy at worst).
4. He's failed to answer my questions to him or discuss my rebuttals of his case. Which then links back to 1 and the whole fucking cycle starts again.

And that's not even getting into whether he was or wasn't rolefishing, or anything he might have posted on 3-4.

He has a habit of dodging questions. OK, let's do this then.

VOTE: MS

Had some RL stuff come up today, so I am not done reading the game. Like pretty far off (~10 pages). That being said, I will get as much done as I can before deadline. It seems like my wagon options are already in place, however.

The entire MS thing made me want to replace out since I thought MS was still in the game. Whoops.

Anyway, Zebulin's 132 is pretty scummy, but I still feel that it was sincere.

Josh B's 154 makes me uncomfortable for obvious reasons.

I like Shinobi.

GM is hella scummy, especially for 210, which is essentially OMGUS. Moreover, she kept defensively responding to attacks instead of actually reading the two pages that she claimed she had yet to read. That always looks bad to me because it indicates a priority of defense over scumhunting.

[Peabody]

What does me previously scum-reading Wisdom have to do with you? Wasn't it you who pointed out I was 'pretending' to scum-read Wisdom? Did you think I was setting you up for a fall? You're awfully paranoid.

What does Wisdom saying he could be wrong have to do with you? Hell, would it not have been easier for me to just jump along for the ride when Wisdom was scum-reading you? This question makes no sense.

Those questions are filler. Serious filler.

This is blatant misrepresentation. Do you really believe that in a massive wall post to respond to you that I need filler questions? I really want to know. Because if you say you do, I don't believe you. I have no idea what you're talking about 'setting up for a fall'. Paranoia? Hell no. Paranoia has nothing to do with this.

I'm showing YOUR inconsistency. You townread Wisdom, wanted me or Josh lynched, and then when Wisdom changed his mind, you scumread wisdom up to the point of him saying I could possibly be scum again. Why do you need his permission to start a vote on me? You waited until Wisdom voiced suspicion to try to push a case on me. It's opportunistic.

No, I didn't follow up with an in-depth analysis on dave. I feel no need to do it right now. So I won't.

I see Huntress's aggressiveness in 723, 871 on her number 2 point, a twinge of it in 870 too when talking to Josh. It doesn't concern me anymore, and after looking at the meta, she's overall pretty levelheaded anyway. That aggressiveness doesn't spark a scum read in me anymore.

Huntress, I know you said you are voting me based on inconsistancy, and I want to know which inconsistancies YOU are referencing. Is your case the same as BBT's? Do you have more to add?

[Peabody]

Actually, same question to Mala as I asked Huntress.

[Peabody]

Get votes off Shinobi.

I highly doubt a scum would protest lynches because the people are 'boring'.

xD

Shinobi, please also explain your vote.


When I flip town, I want these cases from huntress, Mala, and Shinobi out there for wagon analysis later please.

[Peabody]

And if I don't flip they are nice to have.

Weee, double double posting!

Good night.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

This is blatant misrepresentation. Do you really believe that in a massive wall post to respond to you that I need filler questions? I really want to know. Because if you say you do, I don't believe you. I have no idea what you're talking about 'setting up for a fall'. Paranoia? Hell no. Paranoia has nothing to do with this.

I'm showing YOUR inconsistency. You townread Wisdom, wanted me or Josh lynched, and then when Wisdom changed his mind, you scumread wisdom up to the point of him saying I could possibly be scum again. Why do you need his permission to start a vote on me? You waited until Wisdom voiced suspicion to try to push a case on me. It's opportunistic.

No, I didn't follow up with an in-depth analysis on dave. I feel no need to do it right now. So I won't.

I see Huntress's aggressiveness in 723, 871 on her number 2 point, a twinge of it in 870 too when talking to Josh. It doesn't concern me anymore, and after looking at the meta, she's overall pretty levelheaded anyway. That aggressiveness doesn't spark a scum read in me anymore.

Huntress, I know you said you are voting me based on inconsistancy, and I want to know which inconsistancies YOU are referencing. Is your case the same as BBT's? Do you have more to add?

What am I misrepresenting exactly? Those questions were awful questions; what was the purpose of them?

You thought my read on Wisdom was fake. What made you think this and why did you say it?

Yeah, Wisdom's hard reset was pretty bad. His reads completely reversed, why would I not question it?

So, I town-read Wisdom when he was wanting you or Josh lynched; now, why did I not join Wisdom in wanting you lynched at this time if I was waiting for his permission?

Why is it opportunistic to wait for one person to say you might be scum? It might be opportunistic if 3 or 4 people expressed interest in lynching you and you had a couple of votes; but you didn't.

I think I was the first one to vote you. You're going to have to explain the opportunism to me because I don't see it.

@GM - When you decide you want to actually start being town and start scum-hunting, come let me know. This tunnel on me is ridiculous and you must be able to see that your reasons are flawed as well.

Until then, I'm going to choose to ignore you. Have fun tunnelling!

[goodmorning]

GM is hella scummy, especially for 210, which is essentially OMGUS. Moreover, she kept defensively responding to attacks instead of actually reading the two pages that she claimed she had yet to read. That always looks bad to me because it indicates a priority of defense over scumhunting.

Sonic was pushing a bad tunnel. That it happened to be on me was besides the point.
I kept responding to current posts rather than go back and read because responding to current posts is more helpful in keeping the game moving. For some strange reason, I don't like it when games get stalled out.

In other news, I love how Toffee keeps trying to make himself the victim. It's 3000% hilarious.

[Josh_B]

I'm going to consolidate my vote to BBT. I think I've made my case pretty clear.

VOTE: BBT

MOD: Can you change the name of this game to "Making Replacements and Enemies" instead of the alternate suggestion you proposed earlier?

I may as well.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You trying to push a counter-wagon to Pea?

I'll keep this vote in mind.

[Josh_B]

Ahh, you'll be thinking about me? That's sweet.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Vote Pea?

[uctriton00]

I'm back 11 pages, but while I read this, does anyone have any scum reads on me right now that i can talk to

[uctriton00]

Also, I'm willing to sheep almost anyone onto almost any wagon.

I won't sheep Wisdom or Pea.

I might sheep GM or Josh.

I won't vote Huntress.

My vote is yours when you need it.

Go!

Uct and NPAU may be good wagons also. These are based on reading Scripten's ISO now that he be dead.

WOW...I really wish I could edit my posts.

Uct or GM for me today.

You (Uct) was from Scripten's ISO I believe.

GM because I thought she was scum D1 and her play D2 hasn't changed my mind.

This was a long, long time ago though.

My top 3 lynches for today would be Wisdom,

Josh

or Pea.

I feel comfortable that you're town, Uct.

p.s. josh may very well be town in this case

[uctriton00]

wait that was a long ass time ago though, that was him answering my question

disregard

@josh, that's not a slip

[uctriton00]

So I might be on the wrong track about Uct if I'm right on something.

Gonna hold off from an Uct vote until I can find time to sort something out.

UNVOTE: Uct.

Do you expatiate on this later?

[uctriton00]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BBT

I can't shake the feeling that peabody is going for towncred after a Shinobi townflip. That post sounded like neither town disagreeing with a wagon nor a scumbuddy.

If Shinobi is town (which I'm still not even sure of), this is definitely worth a look.
If Shinobi is scum then maybe Peabody is a teammate defending him (more likely) or Peabody is a town who knew what's up (which I doubt; the way this game is going I doubt there are any 100% accurate town reads from anyone in this game)

[uctriton00]

Also, I'm willing to sheep almost anyone onto almost any wagon.

I won't sheep Wisdom or Pea.

I might sheep GM or Josh.

I won't vote Huntress.

My vote is yours when you need it.

Go!

Uct and NPAU may be good wagons also. These are based on reading Scripten's ISO now that he be dead.

WOW...I really wish I could edit my posts.

Uct or GM for me today.

You (Uct) was from Scripten's ISO I believe.

GM because I thought she was scum D1 and her play D2 hasn't changed my mind.

This was a long, long time ago though.

My top 3 lynches for today would be Wisdom,

Josh

or Pea.

I feel comfortable that you're town, Uct.

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Just saying.

So I might be on the wrong track about Uct if I'm right on something.

Gonna hold off from an Uct vote until I can find time to sort something out.

UNVOTE: Uct.

I might be willing to vote NC as his posts so far haven't swung me one way or another.
Still okay with a peabody vote/lynch.
Not okay with a vote on Huntress, Wisdom or GM. Don't want to vote BBT or Shinobi if I can avoid it.

-__-

I hate this game because I don't really know where I want to go, but I'm pretty sure at least one of these wagons at this point are probably on scum, which makes me sad because most of these wagons are townreads one way or another.

Should be back on Wednesday as I have a 12 hour today (tuesday).

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BBT

I can't shake the feeling that peabody is going for towncred after a Shinobi townflip. That post sounded like neither town disagreeing with a wagon nor a scumbuddy.

I can't tell you till after game. Also, don't speculate about it either.

I have no problem with a Peabody lynch, would have no problem with a Shinobi lynch either

only people i wouldn't be lynching today are aegor and mala

[uctriton00]

i have no idea why the quotes got stuck in the reply box of "quick reply"

[uctriton00]

I have no problem with a Peabody lynch, would have no problem with a Shinobi lynch either

only people i wouldn't be lynching today are aegor and mala

[uctriton00]

will put a vote monday morning to prevent a ML, going to be on VLA sunday

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Vote now?

[davesaz]

I assume you meant NL instead of ML.
Scum reads?