NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

[Skybird]

And still Psyche and Marquis are alive. Why?

So still alive:
Pine
Reinoe
House
Shaddowez
Skybird
Marquis
Psyche-replacement

[House]

Pine was swearing he'd be NK'ed.

I wonder why he wasn't, I thought he was right.

[House]

Pine (2):

Gameplay506, notscience

Wow...

Now that is just freaky.

[Pine]

Well, SK killed Gameplay because he or she was thinking Godfather

No idea why notscience was killed. Maybe scum looking for SK? Maybe a Townie unlikely to be protected? Maybe just a Townie they thought wouldn't eat a lynch?

I still want my Psyche lynch

7 left alive, probably 2 Mafia and 1 SK. If we mislynch and there are two Townie kills, Mafia wins

[House]

I'm down with a fake mason lynch.

Not a fan of killing someone who isn't around to defend themselves, though. Are we sure Marquis is town? He was looking pretty scummy pre-claim.

[Wake1]

OP updated. Thank you.

[House]

OP updated. Thank you.

Thanks. Any luck with a Psyche rep?

[Wake1]

Nope. I don't understand it.

[House]

Nope. I don't understand it.

190+ pages... I do, lol.

[House]

Well, SK killed Gameplay because he or she was thinking Godfather

No idea why notscience was killed. Maybe scum looking for SK? Maybe a Townie unlikely to be protected? Maybe just a Townie they thought wouldn't eat a lynch?

I still want my Psyche lynch

7 left alive, probably 2 Mafia and 1 SK. If we mislynch and there are two Townie kills, Mafia wins

2 + 1 would be or best case scenario. We might get lucky if scum and SK target the same person tonight.

There have been theories about a 5 man scum team though, which would put it at 3 + 1.

Either way, we can't afford to mislynch.

[Skybird]

In post 720, Majiffy stated that he thought that day's lynch should be either Aero, Psyche, or Tree. Would Majiffy be so bold as to list all his scum buddies in one post?

[House]

In post 720, Majiffy stated that he thought that day's lynch should be either Aero, Psyche, or Tree. Would Majiffy be so bold as to list all his scum buddies in one post?

I would think a more likely option would be a "mislynch fodder, bus, SK hunting" combo.

[House]

Oh right, Aero flipped scum.

He was lynched before I joined.

[Pine]

In post 720, Majiffy stated that he thought that day's lynch should be either Aero, Psyche, or Tree. Would Majiffy be so bold as to list all his scum buddies in one post?

I would think a more likely option would be a "mislynch fodder, bus, SK hunting" combo.

This is a pretty reasonable point. The Skybird quote makes me wonder AGAIN whether I've got her wrong. If I were scum, I'd typically list one bus in a set of three, though that's hardly a general rule

Oh right, Aero flipped scum.

He was lynched before I joined.

Townslip? Or intentional Townslip?

[House]

In post 720, Majiffy stated that he thought that day's lynch should be either Aero, Psyche, or Tree. Would Majiffy be so bold as to list all his scum buddies in one post?

I would think a more likely option would be a "mislynch fodder, bus, SK hunting" combo.

This is a pretty reasonable point. The Skybird quote makes me wonder AGAIN whether I've got her wrong. If I were scum, I'd typically list one bus in a set of three, though that's hardly a general rule

Oh right, Aero flipped scum.

He was lynched before I joined.

Townslip? Or intentional Townslip?

What? Not knowing someone's alignment because they were already dead?

I hadn't interacted with him. I read a while back that he flipped scum, but it slipped my mind when I originally responded to Sky.

[PeregrineV]

Bah!

[Marquis]

VOTE: house

townread decimated.

[House]

VOTE: house

townread decimated.

Why should you need to read anyone?

[reinoe]

So I'm utterly confused.

[Skybird]

House, when you first replaced in you scum read Psyche in post 4156. Do you still read Psyche as scum?

[Skybird]

I’ve been looking at Majiffy and his interactions to try and see if there’s any slips to indicate his scum partners. He pushes for a Tree/Marquis lynch from the beginning of the game. (Post 219, 362) He also thinks Psyche is scum. He pushes for both of them well into the game. (post 3320, 3347) Marquis claimed masons with Psyche in post 3155.

Marquis explained claiming masons by saying he didn’t want to derail the PV wagon that was going at the time of the claim. (Psyche had 2 votes at that point.) I think the real explanation is he was trying to get Majiffy off their backs.

Does anyone have experience with a scum Majiffy? Does he normally bus his partners?

[House]

House, when you first replaced in you scum read Psyche in post 4156. Do you still read Psyche as scum?

Of course.

[reinoe]

House, when you first replaced in you scum read Psyche in post 4156. Do you still read Psyche as scum?

Skybird, what do you guys discuss during the Day phase in the chat?

[shaddowez]

Well, SK killed Gameplay because he or she was thinking Godfather

No idea why notscience was killed. Maybe scum looking for SK? Maybe a Townie unlikely to be protected? Maybe just a Townie they thought wouldn't eat a lynch?

I still want my Psyche lynch

7 left alive, probably 2 Mafia and 1 SK. If we mislynch and there are two Townie kills, Mafia wins

At this point of the game, why are you bringing up so much spec? NS wasn't posting very often, and his last two votes were on you and on PV. The other thing that you failed to bring up was the fact that notty had claimed double-voter, which could be dangerous to scum late game.

I'm on board with the Psyche lynch, but have a personal thing about voting empty slots. I won't place a vote there until the replacement comes in (unless Psyche continues to post).

In post 720, Majiffy stated that he thought that day's lynch should be either Aero, Psyche, or Tree. Would Majiffy be so bold as to list all his scum buddies in one post?

I'd actually brought up that post earlier in the game, and I'm beginning to wonder more and more if he would.

VOTE: house

townread decimated.

Would you be so kind as to provide more info, please?

House, when you first replaced in you scum read Psyche in post 4156. Do you still read Psyche as scum?

Skybird, what do you guys discuss during the Day phase in the chat?

I'm interested in this as well. I think yours is the only hood who hasn't ever been really open about what's going on in there.

If we weren't masons I would think Psyche could be scum actually because of Majiffy being all like "the claim is shit and they're both scum but let's lynch Marquis first and keep my vote on him and while I'm saying a lot about Psyche being scum with Marquis watch as I never actually follow up on that and only want to lynch Marquis" which would really point to Psyche scum
But also this isn't a bastard game so the longwinded speculation is moot

Upon review I found this post, which is quite interesting. Marquis claims here that Psyche could be scum if they weren't masons because of Majiffy's posts. However, unless Psyche's lying to us

now

about not being masons (which would make absolutely no sense whatsoever), that means that Marquis should have been thinking Psyche was scum. If that was the case, why wouldn't he blow the gambit and vote Psyche? He's also made random comments about having a solid town read on Psyche, which this post doesn't reflect. If Marquis is scum, he knows Psyche's alignment, and was probably hoping to ride the mason claim to endgame. I'm still not sure if they're both scum, but this post definitely has me reading Psyche as more town and Marquis as scum.

VOTE: Marquis

[Skybird]

House, when you first replaced in you scum read Psyche in post 4156. Do you still read Psyche as scum?

Skybird, what do you guys discuss during the Day phase in the chat?

I have no idea what you are talking about Reinoe.