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Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:35 pm

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Good scum get townread by people all the time. Read the evidence. The logic is very strong. The only thing that doesn't make sense, and that I won't have anywhere near enough time to check myself is the meta. Does this player have a tendency to lose it and "emotion slip" when things don't go their way?
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Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:39 pm

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Testing.
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Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:36 pm

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It's POST vs URL. I probably picked it up from seeing you use it and thinking it was a shorter link, ha.
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Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:13 pm

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Vote Count 3.4
When I was a lad I ate four dozen eggs
Ev'ry morning to help me get large
And now that I'm grown I eat five dozen eggs
So I'm roughly the size of a barge!


Death Stare (4): MonkeyMan, davesaz, Aneninen, Heartless
Nero Cain (1): massive
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Brian Skies (0):
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Not Voting (8): Nero Cain, sthar8, Brian Skies, MTD, Death Stare

With 10 alive, it is 6 to Lynch or No Lynch.

It is now Day 3. Deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2014-11-05 17:00:00) at 6:00 PM on Wednesday, November 5th Pacific Time.


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Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:44 pm

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In post 1493, davesaz wrote:OK, this is taking too long. This might mean there really are more town roles in play, in which there could be a chance DS is town.
I'm working and don't have time to post my entire SK case all at once. I'll start by crumbing. It's helpful to see if anyone else sees it without the full evidence.

Who was extremely pissed off at the start of D2? Who was especially pissed off at mollie? Who said that mollie and TSO are the best people at reading them from meta? Who used a AtE to try to deflect a case where their scum meta might apply. (where SK would be included in scum) One person meets all of these statements. One person with motive to kill TSO and then retaliate against mollie after having bulletproof popped.

He's talking about me.

In post 1500, davesaz wrote:Does this player have a tendency to lose it and "emotion slip" when things don't go their way?

I've faked it a few times as scum and town, and I tend to get nasty when people being stupid overlaps with meatworld stuff.

You're assuming that 1)my sk meta is the same as my scum meta, which is false as the objectives of the two and therefore the methods taken to achieve them are fundamentally different, 2)i would know as sk if my bp shot was used, which I don't believe is true, and 3) that I was angry with mollie rather than just scumreading her and 4)that I would make an emotion-based kill at all, but specifically on her but
not
on greyfox, who actually pissed me off.

For the record, this looks nothing like my SK game. It looks nothing like my scumgame either, mollie was bullshitting and making up meta.

But don't worry, if your possibly insane theory is correct, the scum know who the SK is and it is correct play for them to kill that person tonight. So if you were right, I would die. (unless, of course, there is only one scum remaining and we lynch them today.)

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Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:32 pm

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The game is stalling. Lets just lynch the scum.
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Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:09 pm

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sure. setup math is nonindicative and I think DS needs to die for informational purposes at the very least.

If we don't finish the scumteam here, SK prob dies tonight, which is good.

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Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:12 pm

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intent to hammer
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:13 pm

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hi nero
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Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:13 pm

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how's your cult going?
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Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:16 pm

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Its fine, would you like to join us for our all white potluck?
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Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:16 pm

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Final read

Scum: {dave, Heartless}
If there's a SK, it's Nero.

Nero-SK is actually pretty easy to see if we assume that TSO was killed by SK not mafia.
Nero-SK lolkills TSO because he hates his guts and kills 50 because he think they are mafia.
That's what I told Ankamius, but if I have to choose between town and SK, I would choose town for him.

Scumlist is 95% based on pure VCA (At least, on my part. I didn't even skim the 75% of this game) but since we have like little bit less than 8 hours left we'll be able to come up with something more decent than a VCA stuff. I don't see anyone other than us getting lynched anyway if not for pure utility lynch so we have plenty of time.

(I'll start doing stuff tomorrow. I'm back from work and I'm tired as hell)
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Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:18 pm

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Where are you getting this 8 hour thing from?
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Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:18 pm

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Why are you not claiming?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:20 pm

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Because we already know they are scum.
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Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:20 pm

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Did we not claim?

I thought we did ages ago.
If it wasn't obvious enough, VT.
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Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:20 pm

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Also 8 days, not hours lol
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Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:22 pm

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In post 1514, MonkeyMan wrote:Because we already know they are scum.

So....50's vote on them was a bus?

They are really the sk?
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Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:22 pm

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There is 0% chance of us being the SK
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Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:23 pm

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Can't be the SK.
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Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:24 pm

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Yes Nero, I already said that in an earlier post. Did you not read?

Also, what if one mafia killed the other mafia so that the killing mafia could claim vig?
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Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:09 pm

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Spoiler: GIF posts
In post 1511, GuyInFreezer wrote:Final read

Scum: {dave, Heartless}
If there's a SK, it's Nero.

Nero-SK is actually pretty easy to see if we assume that TSO was killed by SK not mafia.
Nero-SK lolkills TSO because he hates his guts and kills 50 because he think they are mafia.
That's what I told Ankamius, but if I have to choose between town and SK, I would choose town for him.

Scumlist is 95% based on pure VCA (At least, on my part. I didn't even skim the 75% of this game) but since we have like little bit less than 8 hours left we'll be able to come up with something more decent than a VCA stuff. I don't see anyone other than us getting lynched anyway if not for pure utility lynch so we have plenty of time.

(I'll start doing stuff tomorrow. I'm back from work and I'm tired as hell)

In post 1515, GuyInFreezer wrote:Did we not claim?

I thought we did ages ago.
If it wasn't obvious enough, VT.

In post 1516, GuyInFreezer wrote:Also 8 days, not hours lol

In post 1518, GuyInFreezer wrote:There is 0% chance of us being the SK


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BTW we haven't synced at all since last time. I have no work tomorrow so we'll probably be able to hammer stuff out.

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Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:10 pm

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In post 1520, MonkeyMan wrote:Also, what if one mafia killed the other mafia so that the killing mafia could claim vig?


This would be one of the most awkward and risky gambits for the lowest possible gain if it succeeds, especially since they had no way of knowing what was in the setup.

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Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:09 pm

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Too many silent people.

The
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three to give us a total of at least 5. The only setups with a godfather are 0-2 T's (5+ power roles) and 5-7 T's. (0-2 power roles)
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Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:37 pm

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