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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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Good scum get townread by people all the time. Read the evidence. The logic is very strong. The only thing that doesn't make sense, and that I won't have anywhere near enough time to check myself is the meta. Does this player have a tendency to lose it and "emotion slip" when things don't go their way?-
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davesaz HeSurvivor
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It's POST vs URL. I probably picked it up from seeing you use it and thinking it was a shorter link, ha."1AM .. not a good time to think I started mixing massive and mathcam" - Totem, DP8
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Jingle For Whom the Bell Trolls
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sthar8 Mafia Scum
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In post 1493, davesaz wrote:OK, this is taking too long. This might mean there really are more town roles in play, in which there could be a chance DS is town.
I'm working and don't have time to post my entire SK case all at once. I'll start by crumbing. It's helpful to see if anyone else sees it without the full evidence.
Who was extremely pissed off at the start of D2? Who was especially pissed off at mollie? Who said that mollie and TSO are the best people at reading them from meta? Who used a AtE to try to deflect a case where their scum meta might apply. (where SK would be included in scum) One person meets all of these statements. One person with motive to kill TSO and then retaliate against mollie after having bulletproof popped.
He's talking about me.
In post 1500, davesaz wrote:Does this player have a tendency to lose it and "emotion slip" when things don't go their way?
I've faked it a few times as scum and town, and I tend to get nasty when people being stupid overlaps with meatworld stuff.
You're assuming that 1)my sk meta is the same as my scum meta, which is false as the objectives of the two and therefore the methods taken to achieve them are fundamentally different, 2)i would know as sk if my bp shot was used, which I don't believe is true, and 3) that I was angry with mollie rather than just scumreading her and 4)that I would make an emotion-based kill at all, but specifically on her butnoton greyfox, who actually pissed me off.
For the record, this looks nothing like my SK game. It looks nothing like my scumgame either, mollie was bullshitting and making up meta.
But don't worry, if your possibly insane theory is correct, the scum know who the SK is and it is correct play for them to kill that person tonight. So if you were right, I would die. (unless, of course, there is only one scum remaining and we lynch them today.)
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sure. setup math is nonindicative and I think DS needs to die for informational purposes at the very least.
If we don't finish the scumteam here, SK prob dies tonight, which is good.
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intent to hammerOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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sthar8 Mafia Scum
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Nero Cain Survivor
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Its fine, would you like to join us for our all white potluck?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Final read
Scum: {dave, Heartless}
If there's a SK, it's Nero.
Nero-SK is actually pretty easy to see if we assume that TSO was killed by SK not mafia.
Nero-SK lolkills TSO because he hates his guts and kills 50 because he think they are mafia.
That's what I told Ankamius, but if I have to choose between town and SK, I would choose town for him.
Scumlist is 95% based on pure VCA (At least, on my part. I didn't even skim the 75% of this game) but since we have like little bit less than 8 hours left we'll be able to come up with something more decent than a VCA stuff. I don't see anyone other than us getting lynched anyway if not for pure utility lynch so we have plenty of time.
(I'll start doing stuff tomorrow. I'm back from work and I'm tired as hell)Show"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
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MonkeyMan Goon
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Why are you not claiming?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Did we not claim?
I thought we did ages ago.
If it wasn't obvious enough, VT.Show"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
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"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
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GuyInFreezer Magical Girl
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Also 8 days, not hours lolShow"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
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"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
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In post 1514, MonkeyMan wrote:Because we already know they are scum.
So....50's vote on them was a bus?
They are really the sk?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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GuyInFreezer Magical Girl
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There is 0% chance of us being the SKShow"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
~fferyllt
"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
~Alisae-
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sthar8 Mafia Scum
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In post 1520, MonkeyMan wrote:Also, what if one mafia killed the other mafia so that the killing mafia could claim vig?
This would be one of the most awkward and risky gambits for the lowest possible gain if it succeeds, especially since they had no way of knowing what was in the setup.
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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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Too many silent people.
Theonlyway there can be missing kills, without MonkeyMan's roleblock having hit scum, is additional town PRs. And if there is even one more, theremustbeat leastthree to give us a total of at least 5. The only setups with a godfather are 0-2 T's (5+ power roles) and 5-7 T's. (0-2 power roles)-
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