Touhou: MitLoF ~ Makai Mix (Game Over)

pieguyn · Post Post #3425 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:12 pm

so wait, is haj a VI or scum?

earlier you were calling him a VI and saying you would vote him "just to get rid of him".

Feirei · Post Post #3426 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:17 pm

think about it. he hasnt come back to push his shit wagon. a VI would be pushing it. A good scumplayer would not be attempting this bs at all.

HE IS NOT EITHER OF THOSE

jfc guys. get your heads out of your asses.

pieguyn · Post Post #3427 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:23 pm

I do admit I don't approve of the fact he supposedly has this guilty, but has done fuck all and is being a giant lurkfuck about it

however, by itself that is not enough of a reason. he needs to get the fuck in here and claim his exact role ASAP, then we go from there.

haj · Post Post #3428 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:09 pm

haj · Post Post #3429 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:14 pm

Rest assured though, because Nonon is a confirmed scum slot

pieguyn · Post Post #3430 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:17 pm

claim or I policy you

pieguyn · Post Post #3431 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:18 pm

actually nah, that's a bit too harsh

you do have to understand about half of this town will continue to think you're faking this guilty for whatever reason if you don't claim. with that in mind, it is in everyone's including yours) best interest if you claim

haj · Post Post #3432 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:18 pm

Do you honestly think I care?

haj · Post Post #3433 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:23 pm

The fact that there's this much resistance to a plain-english guilty that's been softed for days means that scum is doing it intentionally or that the townies need to get their heads out of their asses. Wisdom in particular.

haj · Post Post #3434 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:31 pm

I don't see a cause for you to think that I'm lying about this.

pieguyn · Post Post #3435 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:38 pm

the reason everyone thinks you're faking this is because there was a player who has a reputation of being an idiot, for several reasons, one of which included faking a guilty in this game and pushing it through to a lynch rather than analyzing the reactions from it:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=33008
and everyone in this game believes you're an alternate account of the player who did it. (especially bc your attitude in this game has been very similar to the attitude this player generally takes in games)

I don't particularly think you'd lie about this, but I feel like if you fullclaimed a lot of the animosity towards this would disappear. it might not necessarily be *optimal*, but it would be better than everyone running around and continuing to ignore you over it.

haj · Post Post #3436 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:42 pm

That account isn't me; it's a scum tactic to discredit the report.

pieguyn · Post Post #3437 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:49 pm

as I said, I don't think you'd lie about this

but like

just saying it's not you isn't going to convince anyone. yeah, I agree it's really fucking dumb that no one is listening for whatever reason, but it will be impossible to fix it if the game continues like this. and I don't think it's a scum tactic either; the person who is primarily pushing this as an angle is Wisdom. :/

haj · Post Post #3438 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:55 pm

And a roleclaim is supposed to encourage people that it's real? There's no point in claiming my full role. The flip will confirm that I wasn't lying.

pieguyn · Post Post #3439 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:59 pm

In post 3438, haj wrote:And a roleclaim is supposed to encourage people that it's real?

in this particular case, yes

regardless of alignment, Jakuzure is probably telling the truth about being a fruit vendor. so there are only so many roles you can be that would have got a guilty on them. moreover, you're probably the last investigative role given we already have masons + MS's role. ergo, if you claim and there is no CC, it would be pretty strong evidence in favor of you telling the truth

and that's what I'm saying. at the rate we're going, we won't ever get the flip. something needs to happen in order to get everyone to listen to you.

Time · Post Post #3440 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:00 pm

Haj, would you please Flavor Claim?

pieguyn · Post Post #3441 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:01 pm

In post 3439, pieguyn wrote:there are only so many roles you can be that would have got a guilty on them.

also, as a result of this, it is highly likely that scum could have already figured out the exact role you have, and so there's no reason to continue hiding it anyway

Sakura Hana · Post Post #3442 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:10 pm

So what has happened here lately? Don't have time to read all but i read something about a guilty or something.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #3443 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:12 pm

In post 3429, haj wrote:Rest assured though, because Nonon is a confirmed scum slot

oh

Mononoke · Post Post #3444 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:13 pm

Unvote
Vote: Jukuzure

Time · Post Post #3445 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:13 pm

In post 3442, Sakura Hana wrote:So what has happened here lately? Don't have time to read all but i read something about a guilty or something.

Haj is fake claiming a guilty on Jakuzure. So we're getting ready to policy lynch him.

Feirei · Post Post #3446 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:14 pm

then haj is insane cop, meaning that town will come off as scum and vice versa. Or paranoid, which means everyone comes off as scum.

thats all im getting from this.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #3447 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:14 pm

Fake claiming? are you sure about that?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #3448 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:14 pm

In post 3446, Feirei wrote:then haj is insane cop, meaning that town will come off as scum and vice versa. Or paranoid, which means everyone comes off as scum.

thats all im getting from this.

What makes you so sure it's a cop type of guilty?

Time · Post Post #3449 (ISO) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:15 pm

In post 3447, Sakura Hana wrote:Fake claiming? are you sure about that?

85.5% sure.