Mini Normal 1609: The Case Of Doctor Pepper (Game Over)


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Post Post #4450 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:26 am

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it should of been obvious bomb was not possible due to it being a uniqe role iirc.

vengful is als unique so by default i would of known he was lying.

titus was right in arguing with no lynch and should of done that
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Post Post #4451 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:28 am

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Kinda funny Wake claimed bomb to avoid being nightkilled and threw the other PRs under the bus
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Post Post #4452 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:29 am

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I was trying to bait the kill.

Reverse psychology.
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Post Post #4453 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:30 am

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In post 4451, Anatole Kuragin wrote:Kinda funny Wake claimed bomb to avoid being nightkilled and threw the other PRs under the bus


It's easy to laugh it off as me throwing PRs under the bus when we're all operating under the assumption that Scum exist and are willing to come up with any lie in order to make it to endgame.
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Post Post #4454 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:31 am

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bomb isn't normal from what I understand, town could have lynched you just for claiming that
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Post Post #4455 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:32 am

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In post 4452, Wake1 wrote:I was trying to bait the kill.

Reverse psychology.


claiming bomb will make people AVOID you

if i was scum i would of just nked and call out your fakery on being a bomb

pedit: thats what happened with massive and his survivor claim you could of done the same for wake XD
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Post Post #4456 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:32 am

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It almost worked. We completely debated killing you.

Also, after Rufflig talked about the Top 5 records....

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Post Post #4457 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:32 am

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As I've been saying, Normal games are allowed one unique slot.

Only now I see that 'Vengeful' modifier isn't on the Whitelist.
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Post Post #4458 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:33 am

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In post 4455, ika wrote:
In post 4452, Wake1 wrote:I was trying to bait the kill.

Reverse psychology.


claiming bomb will make people AVOID you

if i was scum i would of just nked and call out your fakery on being a bomb

pedit: thats what happened with massive and his survivor claim you could of done the same for wake XD


Yeah, they could have got me there.

Guess no one noticed it. :mrgreen:
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Post Post #4459 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:35 am

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Also, AK, I knew Flubb was JK or some sort of role. He caught us out, and he would have won the game.
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Post Post #4460 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:36 am

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Well, looks like I'll never give Boonskiies a pass in future Mafia games.

I'm very surprised I missed your Scumslip. I was too focused combing Titus' ISO.

People should admit that some of the things Titus said were Scummy. I don't have days sitting behind a computer to research her Scum-Meta.
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Post Post #4461 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:45 am

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I think it was a close game to the very end. GG all.


Wake, I accept your premise of challenge everything, but can't follow you to the point of you challenging some pretty obvious stuff - such as perhaps BBT not being a mason even after I flipped. That's probably my only criticism of your play. Congrats on catching the problems with massive's claim.


Most fun part of watching from the dead thread was definitely Boon's decision to no kill going from "that's never going to work" to "that might work because Titus is nowhere to be found!" to "oh man this is going to bomb now that Titus is back" to "oh man this just might work after all!"
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Post Post #4462 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:00 am

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Haha, GC. :) And Wake, you were the only one to bring up Flubb's crumbs on me. You scared me. Also, I covered it up well by saying immediately after that I tracked him to massive instead.
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Post Post #4463 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:04 am

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In post 4461, Green Crayons wrote:I think it was a close game to the very end. GG all.


Wake, I accept your premise of challenge everything, but can't follow you to the point of you challenging some pretty obvious stuff - such as perhaps BBT not being a mason even after I flipped. That's probably my only criticism of your play. Congrats on catching the problems with massive's claim.


Most fun part of watching from the dead thread was definitely Boon's decision to no kill going from "that's never going to work" to "that might work because Titus is nowhere to be found!" to "oh man this is going to bomb now that Titus is back" to "oh man this just might work after all!"


Some of the things BBT was saying made me think he wasn't Town. That said, he can say things that don't make him seem Town while being Town. If I recall correctly, I believed him more as Mason after your flip, but still had biting feelings of paranoia when he'd do or say things that, at that time and point, felt not right.

Undoubtedly these actual events will be spun into something different as they're bounced around the Gossip mill.
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Post Post #4464 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:31 am

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I shouldn't have tried to crumb my cc on boons.

How come nobody figured out the cc after I flipped?
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Post Post #4465 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:46 am

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Sorry about the hammer in MyLo guys, I lost patience. I just couldn't see Wake changing his mind and I just got frustrated.

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Post Post #4466 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:22 am

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I hope that this has shown Boon that he can excel in a Mafia game without having to work hard to make a fool of himself.

I will be honest -- and this is in the dead thread -- I actively avoided posting and collaborating in the scum thread until AK was killed. This was started at first because I honestly felt that I'd be SUPER likely to lynch Boon in early days, and I figured I'd feel better about any links back to him if I just simply had no idea what he was thinking or where he was going. As the game went on, it became something of an experiment for me, and it didn't seem to impact the actual gameplay of our team. I could honestly say "I wouldn't have killed Green Crayons, he was obviously the other mason" so it felt like, to me, it actually gave me an extra layer of faux-credibility. Once AK got lynched I did pop in, but even after that I think it felt super-obvious that I wasn't interacting with Boon as much as I was with everyone else.

I will say that not flat-out refuting FakeGod's "are you claiming survivor" right after Doogal's lynch was my downfall. I don't know where exactly I was going, but I knew that the night actions actually could explain me being an SK, but I should have known that, given the opportunity, Wake would latch onto something that I considered unimportant and then miscomprehend it into Something Lynchable. ;) I guess I learned one new lesson: Once the town understands you're a liar, no ones going to believe the new lies you tell them to cover up the old ones!
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Post Post #4467 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:43 am

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In post 4466, massive wrote:I will say that not flat-out refuting FakeGod's "are you claiming survivor" right after Doogal's lynch was my downfall. I don't know where exactly I was going

:lol:
when i saw that i thought that was inspired by f16's claim in serum+steel.

as you've seen (also see: the reckoning III), it doesn't have a good outcome. it's not a good scum fakeclaim.
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Post Post #4468 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:32 pm

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Both massive and AK had me completely fooled at beginning of game. I think because they were both town-reading me when everyone wanted my lynch I felt like they must be town and I held onto that way too long.

I also allowed people to influence me quite easily and I couldn't stick to my guns.

Again, well played scum. Also, I think FG (despite his big headedness in the dead QT) and GC deserve credit. I thought they played really well.

Letting Wake get to LyLo was an awful decision from town as well. Scum did well to keep him alive.

Also, what does an Encryptor actually do?
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Post Post #4469 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:02 pm

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Post Post #4470 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:54 pm

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In post 4468, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

Letting Wake get to LyLo was an awful decision from town as well. Scum did well to keep him alive.


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Post Post #4471 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:47 pm

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Wake, seriously you need to reset how you play and start fresh. Your style is awful and I remember seeing you get WOTC'd from a couple of games and I thought it was harsh, but I can honestly see why now.

I mean, you STILL doubted I was mason after we had had a mason flip and nobody else claimed Mason. You STILL doubted me.

I think Boon could have killed Titus and convinced you I wasn't Mason. I truly do.
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Post Post #4472 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:32 am

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In post 4471, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Wake, seriously you need to reset how you play and start fresh. Your style is awful and I remember seeing you get WOTC'd from a couple of games and I thought it was harsh, but I can honestly see why now.

I mean, you STILL doubted I was mason after we had had a mason flip and nobody else claimed Mason. You STILL doubted me.

I think Boon could have killed Titus and convinced you I wasn't Mason. I truly do.


I'm planning to make some changes. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59684

My current has some flaws. Yours does as well.

After GC's demise it wasn't (iirc) your claim that I doubted. It was you. Your behavior, and abject refusal to share those hidden posts, put me in disbelief. Townies should be willing to disclose objective information when asked. In fact your behavior had me in such disbelief that I, for a moment, thought DP had included a Mafia Mason, but a cursory look at the Whitelist told me otherwise. That means your last sentence is inaccurate.

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Post Post #4473 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:41 am

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In post 4455, ika wrote:
In post 4452, Wake1 wrote:I was trying to bait the kill.

Reverse psychology.


claiming bomb will make people AVOID you


Unless Scum thinks you're a bluffing Doctor.
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Post Post #4474 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:13 am

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In post 4473, Wake1 wrote:
In post 4455, ika wrote:
In post 4452, Wake1 wrote:I was trying to bait the kill.

Reverse psychology.


claiming bomb will make people AVOID you


Unless Scum thinks you're a bluffing Doctor.

You're hoping for WIFOM to go your way. With WIFOM anything can happen for any number of reasons. I can see the exact same play but change my mind based on whether I'm eating a taco supreme or a fish taco.
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