Magic: The Gathering,GO TEAM MS!

[CultivationTheory]

If I remember correctly, if Opalescence was played before Humility, Humility is a 1/1 creature with no abilities, but it still causes other creatures to be 1/1 with no abilities.

If Humility was played first, all of the above is true, but Humility is 4/4.

[PeregrineV]

If the budget version does not play siege rhino then its not worth playing fyi.

That is THE card in the deck.

The budget version saves money through reducing lands/planeswalkers.

It does require the Rhinos

[Thestatusquo]

"This is the current interaction between Humility and Opalescence: The type-changing effect applies at layer 4, but the rest happens in the applicable layers. The rest of it will apply even if the permanent loses its ability before it's finished applying. So if Opalescence, Humility, and Worship are on the battlefield and Opalescence entered the battlefield before Humility, the following is true: Layer 4: Humility and Worship each become creatures that are still enchantments. (Opalescence). Layer 6: Humility and Worship each lose their abilities. (Humility) Layer 7b: Humility becomes 4/4 and Worship becomes 4/4. (Opalescence). Humility becomes 1/1 and Worship becomes 1/1 (Humility). But if Humility entered the battlefield before Opalescence, the following is true: Layer 4: Humility and Worship each become creatures that are still enchantments (Opalescence). Layer 6: Humility and Worship each lose their abilities (Humility). Layer 7b: Humility becomes 1/1 and Worship becomes 1/1 (Humility). Humility becomes 4/4 and Worship becomes 4/4 (Opalescence)."

[Thestatusquo]

TIME STAMPS IN LAYER 7b!!!!

[Thestatusquo]

Sudo, what happens if you attack with an animated Inkmoth nexus with an equipped behemoth sledge and your opponent has a melira in play?

[Maestro]

Sudo, what happens if you attack with an animated Inkmoth nexus with an equipped behemoth sledge and your opponent has a melira in play?

Your Nexus loses Infect, tramples/flies into them, they take 3.

It loses Infect as a static thing ever since it first interacted with Melira, correct? The poison counter thing then only matters if an instant or sorcery would add a poison counter or if your opponent already had poison counters and you tried to Proliferate them to death or something. I don't think the below ruling would apply, but I guess I don't know how the animation of the Nexus would effect triggering into Melira.

Spoiler:

It's possible for a creature an opponent controls to gain infect after Melira enters the battlefield. For example, your opponent could cast Glistening Oil on a creature, and then Melira's ability and Glistening Oil's ability would be applied in timestamp order, with the most recent effect winning. The damage dealt to you by such a creature won't result in you losing life (because the creature has infect) or in you getting poison counters (because Melira stops them). Similarly, damage dealt to a creature you control by such a creature won't result in damage being marked on the creature or in -1/-1 counters. However, abilities that check whether damage was dealt (such as lifelink or Whispering Specter's triggered ability) will still see that damage.

[Thestatusquo]

Nope. Melia's "your creatures lose infect" and nexus "I now have infect" both occur in layer 6, but nexus happens after melira time stamp wise, so it totally has infect when it swings into your opponent who controls melira.

[Thestatusquo]

So, what happens?

[Maestro]

In that case, the ruling I edited in is totally what happens:

The damage dealt to you by such a creature won't result in you losing life (because the creature has infect) or in you getting poison counters (because Melira stops them).

[Maestro]

What's "layer 6" mean?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Layer 6 is what they're hiding in Area 51

[Thestatusquo]

Ah, searching for the ruling is cheating.

That is mostly correct. Your nexus gains infect and then checks timestamps with melira as is like yup totally still have effect. Then you swing in and deal three damage in poison which would not do anything to you because of meliras other ability, however you would gain three life because lifelink is "an effect of dealing damage other than life loss.

[Thestatusquo]

What's "layer 6" mean?

http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazi ... /20091105a

[Sudo_Nym]

What happens if you play Oblivion Ring targeting an Oblivion Ring which has removed an Oblivion Ring with no other non-land permanents on the board?

[chamber]

The game results in a draw.

[Thestatusquo]

What happens if you play Oblivion Ring targeting an Oblivion Ring which has removed an Oblivion Ring with no other non-land permanents on the board?

LSV did this and broke magic online.

[PeregrineV]

What happens if you play Oblivion Ring targeting an Oblivion Ring which has removed an Oblivion Ring with no other non-land permanents on the board?

The game results in a draw.

[Thestatusquo]

I mean, not necessarily. If one of you has the ability to break the loop then you may do so.

But an infinite loop that neither player can end results in a draw.

Modo does not know that as evidenced by the above video.

[Maestro]

Man do I love custom MtG cards...

Spoiler:

[Thestatusquo]

Unfortunately not tournament legal by most judges standards, but still cool.

[Maestro]

Fortunately don't play tournaments!

[Thestatusquo]

Whats the point of playing magic then?

[Maestro]

lol

What's the point of playing League of Legends if I don't care about Ranked?

EDIT: Having fun.

[Thestatusquo]

lol

What's the point of playing League of Legends

if I don't care about Ranked?

EDIT: Having fun.

FTFY.

League is like the worst game ever made.

[Shanba]

My favourite infinite draw loop is

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/ ... eid=174818

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/ ... seid=15168

and having 10 poison counters.

Since you don't own the mirror (it was donated to you), it is not shuffled away as part of lich's mirrors replacement effect for you losing the game. Additionally, the poison counters are not removed by lich's mirrors effect - your life total becomes 20. But that doesn't matter. So you lose the game, lich's mirrors replacement effect happens... and you instantly lose the game again for having 10 poison counters. And again. And again...

Since this is an infinite mandatory loop, it is a draw!