Robin Williams Mafia - rememberance - game over

[Ankamius]

LMP is scum
Less sure about Evil Regals being scum than I used to be for role reasons
Don't remember any kind of read on Elmo so shos is null
You're probably town because LMP is scum
Titus and Plagiarist -> prob other scum between them. Titus because role isn't confirmable and Plag because of the ika-pressure followed by nothing.

[LimMePls]

mod decided to not let me b/c it breaking the rule of disconcerning aligments -.-

This is totally bogus and crosses the line of mod interference in a game as far as I am concerned. The same style of wish I made cannot be illegal at the whim of the mod. Either both should have been illegal or neither.

@mod:

is this true? Feel free to pm the answer.

[ika]

how about we drop the issue and move on?

we can talk about it post game, any idea on wishes?

i mentioned the "is it lylo" idea but nobody said anything

norammly i would be trying to abuse the wish to the max but i dont got much for an idea

[shos]

If the mod does not cooperate then one of lmp or ika is scum. I think it is LMP, staying with the wagon.

[farside22]

Game on hold.

[farside22]

A proof of scum appears
You see the following.

Vote count:

Ankamius (0)
Ika (0)
Evil Regals (0)
Shos (0)
Lynchmepls (3) lmp, ika, shos
Titus (0)
The Plagiarist (0)

Not voting:
Plagiarist, evil, titus, anka

With 7 alive it will take 4 to lynch
(expired on 2014-11-17 08:15:00)

The awnser you seek is none.

[LimMePls]

So all we have to do is lynch the 2 scum in {ank, plag, titus}. If the game proceeds, lynch ER. Win.

What it really boils down to, for me, is "what is the chance that the DOMO-titus interaction D2 is a gambit".

[ika]

doubt it.

i could explain what happened but i will save it for post game for mod to explain.

[LimMePls]

doubt it.

i could explain what happened but i will save it for post game for mod to explain.

What does this mean?

[shos]

So all we have to do is lynch the 2 scum in {ank, plag, titus}. If the game proceeds, lynch ER. Win.

What it really boils down to, for me, is "what is the chance that the DOMO-titus interaction D2 is a gambit".

that I have to read.

also, take into consideration we might *still* somehow be in lylo.

so....we have a small pool with high chances of hitting scum. what we do?

btw

unvote

[shos]

also hold your horses guys, there is much to read.

[ika]

dobut interactions is scum/scum

the issue thing is what can be told post game

[ika]

if it was a gambit it would of been orcastrated by domo

i think sk killed him out of fear

VOTE: ank

this is where i want to lynch

also remember i have a 1-shot rb so if he flips scum i can rb other

[LimMePls]

if it was a gambit it would of been orcastrated by domo

Yes.

i think sk killed him out of fear

Obviously the SK killed him. That's not the issue. The issue is whether or not DOMO-scum would use the "why do you have a gun" + wish to hope SK kills Titus-town, or do it as a gambit with Titus-scum figuring that one of them (doesn't matter which) would get killed, and then the other would have pretty crazy good town cred.

FWIW I don't think it's a gambit, and if it is, frankly it's brilliant enough to deserve a win.

VOTE: ank

this is where i want to lynch

Why? Plagiarist seems way better to me.

also remember i have a 1-shot rb so if he flips scum i can rb other

Noted.

[LimMePls]

dobut interactions is scum/scum

the issue thing is what can be told post game

Ya, I figured it out when I read it like the 5th time. Are you phone/tablet posting? I have a hard time connecting your thoughts sometimes.

I agree the interaction is highly unlikely scum-scum.

Holding off on vote for all voices to check in.

[LimMePls]

also, take into consideration we might *still* somehow be in lylo.

My analysis already assumes we're in lylo.

[ika]

i can do either/or right now.

given the fact that evil posted while we were doign that stuff means shes prob not scum if its lylo

[LimMePls]

If evil is not scum, it's not lylo. That simple.

PV, shos and ER were the only ones not on my sensor. PV has flipped, and shos is now confirmed. If ER is scum, we're in lylo, if not we're not.

[LimMePls]

That's why I kept saying that ER is for the last day of the game, not now.

[shos]

I am actually feeling comfortable with either of plag/ank being lynched. odds are we're not in lylo imo, and welel, these two have posted SO LITTLE in the last week or two that I absolutely cannot believe they are apathetic town.

[LimMePls]

Ank's recent posting seems like a last gasp. Remains to be seen what he says to the most recent development.

[ika]

LMP is scum
Less sure about Evil Regals being scum than I used to be for role reasons
Don't remember any kind of read on Elmo so shos is null
You're probably town because LMP is scum
Titus and Plagiarist -> prob other scum between them. Titus because role isn't confirmable and Plag because of the ika-pressure followed by nothing.

anyone wanna bet that plauge is the scum when he named 2

[shos]

guys can anyone of you be a doll/awesome person who is not a doll/etc and find me some other games with 16 players in them?
I *really* want to check out the case for whether or not we have another scum to deal with in the ER slot or not. I currently townread that slot, but it's dangerous to be in lylo and not know it.

[LimMePls]

guys can anyone of you be a doll/awesome person who is not a doll/etc and find me some other games with 16 players in them?
I *really* want to check out the case for whether or not we have another scum to deal with in the ER slot or not. I currently townread that slot, but it's dangerous to be in lylo and not know it.

Shos, PLEASE try to follow this thought process, because I've tried to explain it to you about a million times now.

IT IS IRRELEVANT IF ER IS SCUM.

If ER is scum, we'll know it for a FACT on Day 8, when the game is still on going. The reason for this is thus:

D6: We lynch one of {ank, plag, titus} (assume we correctly lynch, because if we miss, the game can just end on the spot)
N6: They NK one of {lmp, shos, ika}
D7: We lynch one of remaining from {ank, plag, titus}
N7: They NK one of remaining from {lmp, shos, ika}
D8: Remaining players: {ER, one of {ank, plag, titus}, one of {lmp, shos, ika}}

No matter which remaining players are alive from those sub groups, ER would be the only player who could be scum. All of {ank, plag, titus} were on my sensor, so only 2 of them could be scum. All of the players in our sensor are cleared. ER would therefore be guaranteed scum.

And note that the scum MUST kill from our pool, because to shoot outside of our pool is to give us the game automatically.

Wasting time/energy/brain-cycles on whether or not ER is scum is very unlikely to produce any useful info. The only possible value would be to look for theoretical connections between ER and ank/plag/titus. Which you can do right now anyways just assuming that ER is scum.

[LimMePls]

What's more, if we lynch from {ank, plag, titus} and we mislynch and the game does NOT end on the spot, ER becomes confirmed town.

So ER is not for worrying over now. ER is for D8. The question before us is which 2 of {ank, plag, titus} are scum?