Open 577: Hope Plus One! (GAME OVER - SCUM WIN)

[St Constantine the Hermit]

But seriously, this shit disbands day two.

[Cane + Able]

But seriously, this shit disbands day two.

Yep, I'm kicking everybody out but Wake, for reasons obvious.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Newbie, respond back when you get on. v

[Newbie]

I have no idea what a town bloc is. :/

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I sometimes forget that site meta is different here. A town bloc is something we used to do on D1 where we would form up and use collective synchronized pressure to lead to better results D1.

[Newbie]

Okay. I'm up for that once the game gets officially started and moving and we can get proper reads.

[Cane + Able]

I am here.

- Wake

[Mathdino]

I sometimes forget that site meta is different here. A town bloc is something we used to do on D1 where we would form up and use collective synchronized pressure to lead to better results D1.

Yeah, uh, how bout no? Voting blocs are generally bad and make it difficult to read the individuals.
Furthermore, asking to join a bloc or trying to create one early on is extremely scum-motivated. Any blocs or wagons that form need to form naturally.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

^Lol, it looks like we have our first target. Voting blocs are fun, and in the past have given me great results in games. Have you ever been in one?

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Plus Newbie and Wake are awesome people and I joined the game to play with them.
I'm also confident I can read both of them if need be, so it works to my advantage.

[Mathdino]

Please read this if you're even considering the idea of a voting bloc.

No, I haven't, because they're bad and actually enforce the mob mentality that tends to kill town more often than not. Just don't do it.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Okay, well I joined the game to buddy with Cain + Able, and maybe you'll reconsider.
I think I've played more mafia than most people here, and I'm telling you they're not as bad as you think.
Actually in the three games I've played in a voting bloc we've caught scum day one everytime.

I like teamwork, and I trust who I work with. I always ask people in advance if they want to buddy up, and if they don't want to, then they are free to decline.

[Cane + Able]

Plus Newbie and Wake are awesome people and I joined the game to play with them.
I'm also confident I can read both of them if need be, so it works to my advantage.

I'd like to know who this is, please.

- Wake

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Mathdino, have you ever played as scum before?

[St Constantine the Hermit]

@Wake - I already declined in the message you sent me (before the game).
I don't mind telling you my main account, but I would only feel comfortable if the mod was in the PM.

[Mathdino]

Sigh. Look, Constantine, we're going to disagree on literally everything this game. I'm guessing a lot of MS players will disagree with you. But lemme outline the root of this:

1. You're not an MS player. If voting blocs seriously catch scum wherever you play, then I don't know what to say about the quality of your scum players.
2. You trust people D1 just for the hell of it? Even if they've done nothing to prove they're town? Trust your townreads, don't just set up an artificial block that statistically probably has scum in it.
3. Buddying is bad. Please no. Makes the game so much easier for scum.
4. Newbie, C+A, that other guy, if you join this you're probably going to be let down, I'll leave it at that.

Edit: I've never finished a game as scum, no.
Have you ever played as scum on MS before?
Can we not have this argument

every damn game

?

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Yeah, I've played as scum here.
Hey guys, what's your opinion of buddying in mafia? I'm open to discussion before the game starts.

[Cane + Able]

Voting blocs: Nay.
Buddying: Nay.
Doritos: Yay.

- Wake

[Cane + Able]

I do not trust Pastro.

You have got to wonder what he puts in his pastries.

- Wake

[Mathdino]

The only times buddying is acceptable is if you're confirmed town, or if it's a well thought out reaction test.

If you want to buddy someone and vote together with them, set up a hydra. Until then, trusting someone before the game's even started is terrible.

[CultivationTheory]

Bahhh late confirm. I'm totally here and everything.

[Cane + Able]

In random news, RVS should be over in record time one the game begins.

[Mathdino]

I think everyone confirmed,

mod

.

[Cane + Able]

Oh right, and terribad typos are probably posts from me, because phone posting.

-House

[theelkspeaks]

No Votes have been cast!
With 13 alive, 7 are required for lynch

[countdown]0.00[/countdown] remaining until deadline

Day 1 has begun!

11/13 have confirmed - see opening post for the most up-to-date confirms list. If the remaining two players do not confirm within a reasonable amount of time, they will be replaced.