You could be anyone II - Game Over

Kthxbye · Post Post #3075 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:45 pm

In post 3030, RachMarie wrote:ugghh I am so confused here.

Titus why do you think mafia shot an sk do you think they are BP?

I still think you are scum though

In post 3045, RachMarie wrote:UNVOTE:

so someone does not derp hammer

This completely looks like scum looking for town points. If you really think Titus is town, this should have pinged your radar. I still think there's more than a good chance that Titus is scum pulling a gambit and I caught it.

Nothing Titus has said or done makes me think she's town, but the above 2 posts certainly make me less sure she's scum.

I'm willing, FOR ONE DAY AND ONE DAY ONLY, to lynch this over Titus. If a scum flip, then Titus is off the hook in my mind and is town.

VOTE: RachMarie

House · Post Post #3076 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:14 pm

That is one way to read the situation.

Another is scum using a townie's uncertainty to sell two mislynches.

I might sheep, but I want to ISO RM first.

House · Post Post #3077 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:21 pm

Nah. Not today.

Not tomorrow, either.

Kthxbye · Post Post #3078 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:24 pm

Go ahead, there's not much there. I read it as active lurking mostly.

As for selling anything, I'm in no position. I'm not paying super huge attention to this game at this point.

All I have so far is Titus acting like gambit scum and RM looking fake as fuck and trying for town points. Both are equally scummy, I'm just following my gut on RM at the moment. If Titus gets back to L-1, I'm pretty sure I'll just hammer.

p.edit: I'm not seeing what you're seeing then. If you think Titus is town, RM's the scummiest person surrounding the situation/wagon so far, but meh, w/e. You keep doing you.

T S O · Post Post #3079 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:27 pm

That vote is really bad.

House · Post Post #3080 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:28 pm

Yeah, gonna assume my suggested scenario is more likely.

VOTE: kthxbye

House · Post Post #3081 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:30 pm

Active lurking? With the amount of r/l stuff RM has going on?

Gee, I wonder why... besides, she is town.

That you would paint her as scum to cement a future wagon is scummy.

Garmr · Post Post #3082 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:44 pm

Guys I don't like to rehash things but whats the point in having a fbi agent if the town power role is a tracker. It doesn't make sense she's lying and anyone trying to break down the titus wagon is scum or a village idiot.

House · Post Post #3083 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:46 pm

In post 3082, Garmr wrote:Guys I don't like to rehash things but whats the point in having a fbi agent if the town power role is a tracker. It doesn't make sense she's lying and anyone trying to break down the titus wagon is scum or a village idiot.

So lynch kthxbye today and wagon her again tomorrow and see who else comes to the rescue.

You know it's the smart play.

Garmr · Post Post #3084 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:54 pm

In post 3083, House wrote:
In post 3082, Garmr wrote:Guys I don't like to rehash things but whats the point in having a fbi agent if the town power role is a tracker. It doesn't make sense she's lying and anyone trying to break down the titus wagon is scum or a village idiot.

So lynch kthxbye today and wagon her again tomorrow and see who else comes to the rescue.

You know it's the smart play.

And then titus coasts again and again. I'm not letting that happen.

RachMarie · Post Post #3085 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:53 pm

oh good grief.

1. I am playing with a boatload of RL stuff going on including moving cross country so yeah lurking is a lame case on me.

2. I do think Titus is scum, however with RL issues I did not want to leave anyone at L-1 so early in the day phase before we TALKED cutting discussion benefits scum not town. I have seen too many games where someone hammered in a derpy fashion and it cost town big time, EVEN when it turned out the lynchee was scum.

I hope that makes things more clear.

Garmr · Post Post #3086 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:55 pm

It's not like we have 13 pages of information.

Kthxbye · Post Post #3087 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:34 am

In post 3085, RachMarie wrote:cutting discussion benefits scum not town.

With the number of soft claims people have made...yeah, I beg to differ.

re 2.: If you think Titus is scum, what extra discussion do you plan on being involved in with your move? Also, can you link me a game where someone 'derp hammered' scum and it cost the town big time please?

StrangerCoug · Post Post #3088 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:28 am

Let's get the ball moving, guys. Nothing's going to make me happy except a dead Titus right now.

d3x · Post Post #3089 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:01 am

In post 3010, Garmr wrote:I don't think scum josh would forget the night kill

Ugh. I guess that makes sense. DrC wasn't the SK Kill. The Reads post felt super manufactured and all kinds of fake. Coupled with his poor attempt to MisRep me Yesterday and the revelation that he wasn't in fact cleared at the time make me want to string him up. But your point holds.

In post 3082, Garmr wrote:whats the point in having a fbi agent if the town power role is a tracker. It doesn't make sense

I'm not following the logic here and I don't remember this being a discussion point earlier, either. Are you saying that the existence of an FBI Agent somehow makes it unlikely that a Tracker is in the game?

re:Titus-
I'm not Voting her again until we discuss everyone's attitudes towards Jackal.

Show of hands...
Who's ok with his 2 in game posts out of 54 pages he's been 'present' for?
Who's ok with him not participating in another Day?
Who's ok with his scummy WagonVote on mollie Yesterday?
Who's ok with the 6 days it took him to post D2 before allowing the day to expire 7 days later?
Who's ok with this behaviour in the face of Yiley's blatant and admitted Active Lurking?

StrangerCoug · Post Post #3090 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:06 am

I understand your concern, but we have caught scum on our hands and she needs to go.

d3x · Post Post #3091 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:13 am

That's all well and good, but I see no reason to not discuss something that needs to be discussed before ending the Day. I agree that Titus is the Lynch Today. I just don't think we've exhausted the useful information that everyone else seems so keen to rush past. I'm also pretty sure that I've brought this up 3 times before and I don't remember anyone engaging in the discussion. I'd like to get some people to take actual stances this time.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #3092 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:20 am

I'm not seeing a convincing reason to keep Jackal around, either.

Garmr · Post Post #3093 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:27 am

In post 3089, d3x wrote:
In post 3010, Garmr wrote:I don't think scum josh would forget the night kill
Ugh. I guess that makes sense. DrC wasn't the SK Kill. The Reads post felt super manufactured and all kinds of fake. Coupled with his poor attempt to MisRep me Yesterday and the revelation that he wasn't in fact cleared at the time make me want to string him up. But your point holds.

In post 3082, Garmr wrote:whats the point in having a fbi agent if the town
power role is a tracker. It doesn't make sense
I'm not following the logic here and I don't remember this being a discussion point earlier, either. Are you saying that the existence of an FBI Agent somehow makes it unlikely that a Tracker is in the game?

Well if you got a tracker then you could just track the sks kills thus making the use of a fbi agent redundant. It's not a role used often because they often make normal cop able to detect sk most the time with town or not town results or they don't have bullet proof making mafia able to kill them. You would only chuck fbi agent in if the sk pretty much has bp and you are unable to detect him. Because you are basically dedicating one role to find another role then and unless that other role is buffed like that there's no point.

Who's ok with him not participating in another Day?
Who's ok with his scummy WagonVote on mollie Yesterday?
Who's ok with the 6 days it took him to post D2 before allowing the day to expire 7 days later?
Who's ok with this behaviour in the face of Yiley's blatant and admitted Active Lurking?

Show of hands...
Who's ok with his 2 in game posts out of 54 pages he's been 'present' for?

Not really for all except the mollie vote because she is sk. But I want to deal with titus first. Before I deal with him.

Kise · Post Post #3094 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:38 am

I should point out that the SK could be a ninja, but then that means Titus is probtown and I'd have to unvote and don't wanna do that. So Garmr is right.

Kise · Post Post #3095 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:39 am

Yeah that v/la is long

MOD, anything going on with Jackal & Aunt J?

Garmr · Post Post #3096 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:50 am

In post 3094, Kise wrote:I should point out that the SK could be a ninja, but then that means Titus is probtown and I'd have to unvote and don't wanna do that. So Garmr is right.

if sk is ninja that means that sk can't be framer which means titus lied about being framed as she was directed to the sk kill. If mafia framed her they would of probably directed her towards the mafia's kill because they would of had to predict the sks kill and that titus was a tracker, which is unlikely to happen together.

Kise · Post Post #3097 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:54 am

ur right

Titus · Post Post #3098 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:29 am

There is no mafia kill to frame towards as it did not go through.

Titus · Post Post #3099 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:31 am

@TSO, working on the wall. Gotta run my own business too though. Really it is simple though.

HI scums it up.
Scum frame him.
I investigate him, but my gut says something's off so I don't claim guilty.
Mollie knows the guilty was off but tries to force a dichotomy.
Mollie lurks throughout the day.