Micro 412: 9P Rebels In The Palace (Game Over)

[Flubbernugget]

Actually Wake I will say that you have to be a little indirect and creative to read people that scumhunt off gut but I'm the wrong person to really get into this topic with

[Wake1]

I am being respectful with you all, whether you are Town or Scum.

It would be great if I could receive the same general respect in return.

Wisdom aided in mislynching fuduzn, and I feel his reason for mislynching him is, at best, ambivalent. Are we not supposed to pry for answers? Are we supposed to languish in apathy? No, I do not believe so. Let's ask questions and do what we must to attain something we need: thorough answers. In Wisdom we have a player who continues to not specify for even a minute why exactly he mislynched fuduzn. I do not like mysteries. It may be that he knowingly mislynched fuduzn, and has passed it of as "he's scummy," and now believes he is exempt from reprisal. No my friends, that's not the game we've come to love. None of us are beyone reproach. No one here has the right to be free from being questioned. He has the right to struggle, avoid, evade, and otherwise react negatively to my questions, but I have the right to keep prodding him for answers, because I have the feeling he's lying to us all. I feel you Anatole and Flubber as well should help me in applying pressure to Wisdom, to better sort out where Wisdom stands in this game. I am open to being interrogated for answers. I believe Wisdom should as well.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Wake, he has already explained that it was more or less pure gut that he voted fu. If that's not a satisfactory answer to you then vote him - but that's pretty clearly the only answer he's going to give regardless of how much artificial pressure we create.

[Wisdom]

Fine, I'll entertain you.

Spoiler: Case on a dead townie because Wake's an idiot

Seriously though, that was some immature petty shit from both of them. And there wasn't any real substance to boot.

This pinged me because he states something obvious, without actually giving any read on any of them. I don't accept that there was no content there, there sure was something that he could comment on like I and others did.

Flubbs, where should we get content from?

I disliked this. Asking someone else to tell him where the content is and what he should be commenting on. And in the same time defending with "there's nothing to comment on" which as explained I found bullshit.

Flubber, what is MD?

And basically what Jason said. You have done nothing yet expect others to already have done something.

My murder boner stays rock hard for you at least until the replacements come in.

I disliked Jason's push (didn't find it scummy, looked more like town on town) on Flubber as I was feeling Flubber was town, and so I disliked Fu sheeping Jason.

Ah , the ol 'I have no reason so I will make something up kind of vague after repeated requests for a reason' gut read.

"oh look he doesnt have a reason guys" - classical scum-attempt to make their accusors look bad so that people won't sheep them. Or that's how I felt. Also, like I said, I felt that he was implying I am scum so that others think it without taking the stance and clearly state it. I find such things scummy.

Also, you seem to have a hard time in voting for Jason........even though you are 'doubting' your town read on him now.

I felt he was twisting my "I'm rethinking my townread on Jason" into "I am scumreading Jason" and trying to imply that the fact I'm not voting Jason means we are connected. Scummy.

Just remember the king will try not to receive any attention early game (null from now on since I'm mentioning it). Now look at jason

Nice little attempt at clearing yourself since you happen to have the most posts, well played.

Again. It felt like he was trying to make me look bad. What he said wasn't my point at all, I didn't have myself in mind at all when I posted this, rather I wanted to explain why I find Jason unlikely to be a king.

So Jason, no opinion on wisdom?

Gotcha.

More implication that Jason is connected to me.

Also the fallacy of Wisdom voting me partially because he said the king would lay low is telling. There are other people less active than me. He continues to reach for reasons to vote me, I may be reaching here, but I think this ties into Jason's rvs vote on me. They seem to play well together too well.

I would be shocked if he isn't at least a guard.

Cue up the laughing away my theory buy them with wisdom not giving a credible reason he is voting me and Jason ignoring my question.

This was a total misrep, as I explained inthread. He was saying that I was voting him because he is laying low. What I was saying was that I was voting him because among my two suspects, him and ika, he was more likely to be king. Misreps make me think scum.

So again, you have no reason for initially calling me scum is what you are saying? Outside of saying that your scum read on me is based on me not being scummy........does that make sense? Seriously people, this isn't me flailing like wisdom wants you to believe, this is me pointing out blatant fallacies by a few players in this game.

More of the "he has no reason, look at him people". At this point I felt he's desperate because he's caught so he's trying his best to appeal to people.

I don't fucking like making cases. All these were obvious and you could understand them just by reading the thread. But no, you have to make me do this because gutreading people is somehow suspicious. If something like this is requested again, I'm ignoring you.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Wake, he has already explained that it was more or less pure gut that he voted fu. If that's not a satisfactory answer to you then vote him - but that's pretty clearly the only answer he's going to give regardless of how much artificial pressure we create.

i stand corrected

[Wisdom]

@Flubber

Thoughts on boon and my 405?

[Flubbernugget]

Boons is my compromise wagon

[Wisdom]

Do you disagree that if both he and Jason are scum, he's the more likely king?

[Flubbernugget]

There's too much wifom in trying to king hunt instead of scum hunt. Jason is still scummier than Boons imo and that's where I stop in speculation.

[Wisdom]

Eh. Like I told Anatole, I don't think jason has really been scummy. You're probably just not liking his playstyle.

[Klingoncelt]

Is there a point to this question?

Just wondering.

Ika's noisier as Town, quieter as Scum.

Vote:Ika

[PokerFace]

Day 2 Vote Count:

Wisdom (2) - Boonskiies, Wake88

Boonskiies (2) - Wisdom, Anatole Kuragin
JasonWazza (1) - Flubbernugget
ika (1) - Klingoncelt

Not voting (2) - JasonWazza, ika

With 8 alive its 5 to lynch

Deadline 11/23/14

(expired on 2014-11-23 15:45:00)

[Klingoncelt]

Edosurist - needs to post soon or be replaced

Umm... I replaced him...

[Wake]

I could compromise on an ika lynch for now.

[ika]

I could compromise on an ika lynch for now.

fail

im fine with my myslycnch as well

[Wake1]

I could compromise on an ika lynch for now.

fail

im fine with my myslycnch as well

You could join the Wisdom wagon instead.

Klingoncelt could join it, too.

[Klingoncelt]

I voted Ika mainly because deja vu.

Wake, Ika, am I wrong? I doubt it.

[Flubbernugget]

Oh goody theres a wake and a wake88

[Klingoncelt]

Oh goody theres a wake and a wake88

Oh. Well then:

I voted Ika mainly because deja vu.

Wake88, Ika, am I wrong? I doubt it.

[Wake1]

I don't recall some of ika's play.

He isn't playing well, but I suspect he's Town.

Klingon, it may be more prudent if you and ika help me in applying pressure to Wisdom, if only tentatively.

[Klingoncelt]

I don't recall some of ika's play.

He isn't playing well, but I suspect he's Town.

Klingon, it may be more prudent if you and ika help me in applying pressure to Wisdom, if only tentatively.

He's playing exactly like he did in the Rebels in the Palace game that you hosted on that other site. When he was a guard. In your game.

I'll read up on Wisdom, give me a few.

[Klingoncelt]

Did some reading. I'm not getting a strong scumread on Wisdom. I'm sticking with Ika. And looking at Jason and Boon.

[Klingoncelt]

Wake88, discard Wisdom and tell me what you think of Jason, Boon, and Ika.

[Boonskiies]

I wouldn't say this is necessarily town Wake, but I'd say this is pretty obviously town Boon. As scum, my reads are incredibly consistent. I don't care about anything when I'm town. If you guys end up lynching me today, lynch Wisdom tomorrow, 'cuz I'm town.

[Boonskiies]

Ika I believe is careless town as well.