Mini 1625: Redemption (Game Over)


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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:27 am

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@Naiomi,

My vote on you served its purpose, it got you to better explain your town reason for why you posted what you did, so I unvoted.

I defended whomp because people lynch bad townies too often rather than scum and the wagon was forming quickly. If he was just trolling he wasn't going to defend himself and when he hit l-1 he was just going to self hammer.
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:38 am

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I've read your post, im standing with my post.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:45 am

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I've Edited the day countdown into my Signature. so we don't have to search for it.
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:47 am

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In post 249, Originalchris wrote:
In post 248, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 244, Originalchris wrote:
In post 243, Whomping Willow wrote:Please quote where droog is defending me and not just attacking you


This is called deflection. Thanks for admitting this.


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Is it that hard to understand?

Player C attacks and/or questions Player B.
Player A wants to defend Player B.
Player A could straight up defend them, by answering their questions and saying why they are town, but if they are scum buddies, this implicates both of them.
Opposite of that, Player A instead attacks Player C.

Deflection 101.


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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:47 am

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I really don't like riddles and isots dayvig sequence. It looks staged. It looks like they waited for a chance to do it. I ask about Daychat then riddle a and ISOt escalate it to a fake dayvig. If riddle is town and likes using fake day vigs why use that moment as the fake dayvig. And why so quickly ask if you are scum. If it was a gambit slow playing after the kill would get far better reactions then just a straight are you scum question.

Isotts reaction kind of seems normal but the Riddleton just bails on the gambit without allowing isott to fully react. Emotion is tough to fake for very long so ending it quickly serves the scum.

I don't like the whole interaction.

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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:56 am

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Istott's reaction is town like I said, he sounded genuinly annoyed that he couldn't play on. I see no need to draw out the reaction test when his reaction clearly indicated to me he was town.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:11 am

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In post 255, Riddleton wrote:Istott's reaction is town like I said, he sounded genuinly annoyed that he couldn't play on. I see no need to draw out the reaction test when his reaction clearly indicated to me he was town.


Why Isott, why this early, why did you just blatantly ask if he is scum?
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:14 am

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isott behaved realistically
riddleton gave up with too little push
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:37 am

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The purpose of the reaction test was to see how Istott would respond to my fake dayvig and see if it's townlike. Once that goal was satisfied, there's no reason to continuing pushing it. Why do you think it's bad to 'give up' on it when I've already drawn a solid conclusion from the test (ie. that Istott is town)?
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:46 am

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In post 191, Riddleton wrote:Game over, pal. You scum?

In post 193, Riddleton wrote:Hm ok. Istott is town.


Im not sure why you didn't string it ong more
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:47 am

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But makes you so certain that he didn't just call your bluff?

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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:52 am

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In post 258, Riddleton wrote:The purpose of the reaction test was to see how Istott would respond to my fake dayvig and see if it's townlike. Once that goal was satisfied, there's no reason to continuing pushing it. Why do you think it's bad to 'give up' on it when I've already drawn a solid conclusion from the test (ie. that Istott is town)?


Why IStOt
Why this early in the game. This type of gambit only works once. And would work much better later once there is suspicion built up.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:59 am

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Im not sure why you didn't string it ong more


Why would I?

Why IStOt
Why this early in the game. This type of gambit only works once. And would work much better later once there is suspicion built up.


I was suspicious of him at the time. If he was scum faking the newbie persona, then there would be signs that he's familiar with other stuff on the site (e.g. knowledge that dayvigs are faked). See here.

I disagree to your thoughts regarding the gambit itself. It's best in the early game to get conversations and questions going (which you all are doing so far with me).
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:16 am

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Dayvig reaction tests are gay
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:18 am

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In post 249, Originalchris wrote:
In post 248, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 244, Originalchris wrote:
In post 243, Whomping Willow wrote:Please quote where droog is defending me and not just attacking you


This is called deflection. Thanks for admitting this.


Wat


Is it that hard to understand?

Player C attacks and/or questions Player B.
Player A wants to defend Player B.
Player A could straight up defend them, by answering their questions and saying why they are town, but if they are scum buddies, this implicates both of them.
Opposite of that, Player A instead attacks Player C.

Deflection 101.


Thats called a chainsaw (is that deflection too?)

And it would have held more weight if you quoted the posts you were asked to post.
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:04 am

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In post 263, Flubbernugget wrote:Dayvig reaction tests are gay


Please don't violate sitewide rules again.
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:08 am

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In post 209, Whomping Willow wrote:I don't know enough about RL mafia to gauge whether isott should have picked up on that highly blatant fakevig. But Riddleton capitulated on that read far too easily for my liking and Flames is being too hardline with it, Riddleton doing that and declaring istott town seems pointless as scum though, and he atleast did something to try and develop a read, which Flames349 has yet to do.


No, shut the fuck up.

In post 184, Flames682 wrote:And to spell it out for you WW, I'm leaning scum on istott.
Stop using gut as a reason to state someone is scum. Now.

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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:12 am

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In post 255, Riddleton wrote:Istott's reaction is town like I said, he sounded genuinly annoyed that he couldn't play on. I see no need to draw out the reaction test when his reaction clearly indicated to me he was town.


Because it was so obvious that it was FAKED, so he acted town.
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:13 am

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Well someone's angry. Is the the second quote supposed to demonstrate something?
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:13 am

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In post 262, Riddleton wrote:
Im not sure why you didn't string it ong more


Why would I?

Why IStOt
Why this early in the game. This type of gambit only works once. And would work much better later once there is suspicion built up.


I was suspicious of him at the time. If he was scum faking the newbie persona, then there would be signs that he's familiar with other stuff on the site (e.g. knowledge that dayvigs are faked). See here.

I disagree to your thoughts regarding the gambit itself. It's best in the early game to get conversations and questions going (which you all are doing so far with me).


It was a terrible reaction test that never works ever.
Stop using gut as a reason to state someone is scum. Now.

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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:13 am

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Are you dumb Womping
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:14 am

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It's W
H
omping, Flames495
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:15 am

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And I ask again. Is the second quote meant to demonstrate something?
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:16 am

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No I just put it there for the hell of it of course Womping.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:16 am

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I'm not gonna comment on the reaction test stuff, I don't understand the test properly, so I'm just gonna let this lie and not respond to it, as I don't get it, and commenting on it as if I got it, would be miss leading as my lack of getting it is not useful information for town to get.
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