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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:10 pm

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In post 873, AGar wrote:
In post 869, mith wrote:AGar and Yiley are the luckiest compared to their expected records, by almost 2 games each, while I have won 1 more than expected.


By my math, Yiley is actually super lucky by 8 games?


The 8 game difference is between two different power ranking stats; EPE is everyone plays everyone, while WDST is a more complicated stat attempting to account for not just the luck of who you face each week, but also the luck inherent in how the scores are distributed. For example, based on your score vs. the mean and sd of the league's scores, you might expect to win 75% of the time, but it happened that six teams beat you that week by a few points, killing your EPE; or the converse of that, which is what's happening with Yiley. As a more concrete example, this is what the WDST value is for the third best score each week (EPE of 9, or 9/11 = .81 repeating for comparison sake):

.77, .79, .77, .88, .79, .87, .62, .91, .82, .69

Yiley's was the week 7 one, much lower than average for a EPE of 9 (.62*11 teams = 6.82). In that week, we had two scores in the 100s, and then a bunch of scores in the 80s, with Yiley the highest of that pack at 87.68. It was only slightly above average for the week, but because of the way the scores were distributed it was good enough for third.

The 2 games comes from comparing actual records with EPE (divided by 11). So your expected record is slightly better 6-4, and Yiley's is about 5-5, whereas your actual records are 8-2 and 7-3 respectively. (Using WDST, Yiley has a 2.5 difference, so definitely luckier by that measure.)
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:41 pm

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I was very close to 8-2 But scheduling luck only gets you so far
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:51 pm

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Thanks Tally - I imagine it is a headache to do for the full season as it was confusing enough just trying to match up everyone correctly for those last two weeks!
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:12 am

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thanks!! a final week meeting between the moo cows and me is on track to be pretty important!
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:37 am

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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:59 pm

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Ok, week 10 results for L1:

Lamora's Lynch Mob 127.90 - 111.18 Tally Whackers
Mask of Zorotter 123.56 - 79.14 The Wonderbolts
Zanarkand Abes 76.64 - 118.52 Kmd's Raiders
Wrath of Romo 83.98 - 117.68 Beavers Love Wood
Rob's Game Theory 91.10 - 77.88 Back in the Show
my team is a potato 126.40 - 60.80 The Moo Cows

A week of no particularly close contests, including three huge blowouts of over 40 points. With no-one better than 7-3 or worse than 3-7, it leaves everyone still technically in contention for the playoffs with four to play, although in a practical sense Llama and I are probably finished even if we win out at 3-7. This week is a big one as first seed (IS) plays fourth (Tally) and second (Rob) plays third (hasdgfas) in the final matchups, giving them a chance to separate themselves and for chasing teams to make up ground on the wildcard before we return to divisional play.
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:18 am

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yeah but you're still in position not to get relegated
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:23 am

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Going by yahoos projections on every week has not been working for my team. Would be 8-2 if their projections were always right and not 4-6. My team has consistently under performed

I really need to change my game and drafting strategy for yahoo next year. Because if you compare this team to my other teams (I got 9-1 in work nfl league 7-3 in a espn public league) the team i got here really sucks. Yahoo said i had best draft. yay right
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:50 am

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Hi L3 peoples! This is your resident 3-7 team letting you know that I will welcome trade offers before the 11/14 trade deadline (just noticed it's tomorrow - guessing the end of tomorrow)! :)

Not sure which players in my lineup anyone might remotely be interested in acquiring: <Brady/Jeffery/Martavis Bryant/Wayne/J. Charles/Morris/Torrey/Dwayne Allen>. Oh wait, there's more! Mark Sanchez (half-joking). :lol:
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:59 am

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In post 881, zoraster wrote:yeah but you're still in position not to get relegated


That's the dream. Looking better now than it was two weeks ago, for sure.
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:20 pm

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Love how my team has reached projections only once this season for scoring.
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:33 am

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thank goodness i picked up alfred blue
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:01 pm

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Looks like I may actually end up not finishing in the basement after all.
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:58 pm

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Reminder, this is the promotion/relegation schematic...

L1 #1-8
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:40 pm

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In post 883, Bert wrote:Hi L3 peoples! This is your resident 3-7 team letting you know that I will welcome trade offers before the 11/14 trade deadline (just noticed it's tomorrow - guessing the end of tomorrow)! :)

Not sure which players in my lineup anyone might remotely be interested in acquiring: <Brady/Jeffery/Martavis Bryant/Wayne/J. Charles/Morris/Torrey/Dwayne Allen>. Oh wait, there's more! Mark Sanchez (half-joking). :lol:


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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:41 pm

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Man I have terrible teams this time around. Monte Ball is out again.
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:06 pm

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Well L1 is going to get interesting with what looks like what is going to be five teams tied at the bottom at 4-7.

What is tiebreak order? Total points or is it something else
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:48 pm

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yeah, its points
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:50 pm

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Did Vereen lose his starting job or something?
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:04 pm

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In post 888, Kublai Khan wrote:Reminder, this is the promotion/relegation schematic...

L1 #1-8
L2 #1-3
L3 #1


L2 #4
L1 #9

L3 #2

L2 #5
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L3 #6
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L3 #9
L3 #10
L3 #11
L3 #12


It will be a little different this year because L2 is at 12, but not wildly so.
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:11 pm

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In post 893, Nero Cain wrote:Did Vereen lose his starting job or something?


You are familiar with the Patriots' running game, right?
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:02 am

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Ugh. I wish I had paid attention in the middle weeks, I could've been a contender this season with both Matt Forte & Jamaal Charles.

And btw, I'm trying to submit a waiver request and Yahoo keeps crashing when I do it?
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:05 am

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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:17 am

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In post 891, LlamaFluff wrote:Well L1 is going to get interesting with what looks like what is going to be five teams tied at the bottom at 4-7.

What is tiebreak order? Total points or is it something else


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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:13 am

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Flameaxe had worst schedule. I have it now.

So much for yahoo saying i would have bext schedule and go 10-3 at start of season. 4-7 exceeding projections only once stinks
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