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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:19 pm

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In post 1430, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 923, Bookitty wrote:I think most of the wagon on Varsoon is town, but I know firsthand the power of OMGUS, so I could even see him thinking his wagon was mostly scum.


This is interesting to me. I think there's almost certainly opportunistic scum on his wagon.

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, fferyllt,
Albert B. Rampage
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Save the Dragons


If I had to guess, one or more of {SMP, Konowa, Flubbernugget, Bookitty, fferyllt}


am interested in why green is green

fwi, no one should really put a whole lot of promise in much outside of orci lynch when I come back. hes scum, and him pushing me today is proof if that, pretty much. he started with continuing a push on me despite knowing I am v/la and why. Orci also pretty much has ~night reason~ to believe I am town based on things, and his meta is pretty off based since ue actually knows me to be agressive as either alignment.
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:23 pm

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Green is townreads. I should have made it another color but I was lazy, they should not be the same color as Varsoon.
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:26 pm

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In post 1417, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I'm unwilling to fully commit to a Mara push at least until Cabd comes back. I'll stay my vote there, though.

Who's your second strongest scumread?

Like, this literally doesn't make sense with what he's posted since he knows that I was flying out
the morning day started


Like, I had literally posted in the airport
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:27 pm

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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:29 pm

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Aka, don't wait, but if orci really is town, the shit he's pulling is completely unacceptable and disrespectful and I will probably blacklist him
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:32 pm

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Hi ns, bai ns
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:35 pm

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In post 1479, Ms Marangal wrote:Aka, don't wait, but if orci really is town, the shit he's pulling is completely unacceptable and disrespectful and I will probably blacklist him

this is completely faked and i don't buy a word of it. i also noted that i was unwliling to fully commit to pushing you until you returned so

Ms Marangal wrote:
In post 1430, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 923, Bookitty wrote:I think most of the wagon on Varsoon is town, but I know firsthand the power of OMGUS, so I could even see him thinking his wagon was mostly scum.


This is interesting to me. I think there's almost certainly opportunistic scum on his wagon.

Varsoon
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Cephrir
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Brian Skies
, SMP, Konowa, Flubbernugget, Bookitty,
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, fferyllt,
Albert B. Rampage
,
Save the Dragons


If I had to guess, one or more of {SMP, Konowa, Flubbernugget, Bookitty, fferyllt}


am interested in why green is green

fwi, no one should really put a whole lot of promise in much outside of orci lynch when I come back. hes scum, and him pushing me today is proof if that, pretty much. he started with continuing a push on me despite knowing I am v/la and why. Orci also pretty much has ~night reason~ to believe I am town based on things, and his meta is pretty off based since ue actually knows me to be agressive as either alignment.
you're trying to get me to soft or claim or something and it's not going to work
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:36 pm

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and for the record, i do not have any night reason to believe that you are town.

none.

at all.

you are lying.
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:38 pm

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No, something happened to you last night and why should have clickdd if you were town
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:39 pm

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But it obviously didnt, so.
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:41 pm

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And yeah, yoy saud that after making a case knowung I was going to be on the road, and thus unable to even engage with you or defend myself
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:03 pm

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In post 1485, Ms Marangal wrote:And yeah, yoy saud that after making a case knowung I was going to be on the road, and thus unable to even engage with you or defend myself

Whoops, I forgot that I was unable to work on this game while you were away!

In all seriousness, I am giving you your grace period. I have said that I am doing so. You can reply to my case when you come back, since I'm not pushing your wagon. Your argument that I am somehow unfairly treating you is bullshit, and so is your (faked and overreacting) threat to blacklist me.

Nothing happened to me last night that should give me reason to believe you are town.
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:24 pm

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In post 1470, notscience wrote:That most of the current gamestate is focused on her and if she's scum that could be used to generate a lot of apathy?

no.

we will lynch today

apathy -> no feasible 2nd choice for a lynch

apathy in town increases chance of mara lynch
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:22 am

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In post 1467, wgeurts wrote:The STD vote was naked and was placed convienty at the start of a wagon which looked like it could grow. The mara case will be up in 24 hours, I'm phone posting this.


I look forward to this. If you could also give reads on other players, that would be great too.
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:34 am

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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:35 am

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I kind of think Mara is Town after . I don't see Scum, who it appears a number of players are waiting on right now, coming in and softing something hard like that in what I tend to believe is a power heavy game.

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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:43 am

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That is a great vote. Easily the worst on the main wagon yesterday and today too, with a catchup post that offered nothing.
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:13 am

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I'm just going to say that mara wanting town read me is more indicative that she has unawareness of the game state in general unlike scum's knowledge, and I really really want to keep her alive as long as possible.

Orci I'm comfortable with reading as town despite mara's beliefs. I think she's really just taking her tell too seriously without considering how tells still have to be considered in context. He also I believe is generally unaware but I think it's weaker in his case.

I realize this is vague but I really want to avoid this turning into competing wagons. I can discuss some other parts of my read, but I really hate discussing why I think some people are wrong as town, and it's not really my job to defend someone I don't know their true alignment.

Also I disagree with boo's meta read on bpc, as I'm not getting the feeling he's contributed anything significant to this game so far. I'd like her to expand on her read a bit more and explain why bpc's play is to make him unlikely scum.
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:47 am

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In post 1475, Ms Marangal wrote:fwi, no one should really put a whole lot of promise in much outside of orci lynch when I come back. hes scum, and him pushing me today is proof if that, pretty much.

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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:49 am

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In post 1492, Honey bee wrote:I think she's really just taking her tell too seriously without considering how tells still have to be considered in context.

My problem with this is that I don't think Mara is actually this bad.
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:49 am

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In post 1492, Honey bee wrote:I'm just going to say that mara wanting town read me is more indicative that she has unawareness of the game state in general unlike scum's knowledge

could you rephrase this? my understanding of this sentence is basically that scum-mara ihas a better understanding of gamestate. this is not true based on meta
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:55 am

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In post 1492, Honey bee wrote:He also I believe is generally unaware but I think it's weaker in his case.

i didn't even realize i was using tells!
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:56 am

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In post 1490, Konowa wrote:I kind of think Mara is Town after #1475. I don't see Scum, who it appears a number of players are waiting on right now, coming in and softing something hard like that in what I tend to believe is a power heavy game.

what? power heavy game means it's easier to get away with a PR soft...
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:57 am

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In post 1492, Honey bee wrote:Also I disagree with boo's meta read on bpc, as I'm not getting the feeling he's contributed anything significant to this game so far. I'd like her to expand on her read a bit more and explain why bpc's play is to make him unlikely scum.


In a bit of a hurry and I will be back later to say something about STD. But my own read on BPC was based on comparison of meta; he started out in a way that made me think he was scum, but his seemed REALLY sincere to me. pointed out something that both STD and Cephrir have since said outright was true, so it's fairly insightful that BPC picked it up on his own.

BPC's vote on Mara also made sense to me in terms of timing and reasoning.

I'm not super-mega-omg-he's-town for BPC as I am for some others, but I'm not seeing him as scummy based on stuff so far.
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:58 am

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In post 1498, Bookitty wrote:Post 396 pointed out something that both STD and Cephrir have since said outright was true

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