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[orcinus_theoriginal]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=32441
Bookitty

my thesis on why mara plays like this because anger and irrational deathtunnels is easier to fake than actual scumhunting is

[Brian Skies]

Doesn't Nati dislike cops? Or do I just think that because I like her as a mod and am assuming my own views onto her.

Yeah, Nat hates cops, she thinks they're way too OP.

I don't know about cops, but I know he loathes hiders because they don't allow the scumteam any way to outplay the ability.

[Brian Skies]

Did you read what I wrote at ALL? You even quoted it.

I did read it. You acknowledged what he did but you don't think it's scummy. I outlined the difference in why I thought it was scummy.

[Bookitty]

It tries to ride the wave of the previous votes.

I think star points are important. I don't think they trump getting the right lynch, though. Lynx's vote looked to me as if he was just doing it for the star points (I think he actually references that in his unvote post). To me, that doesn't necessarily make him scum (see STD's late vote on Varsoon, and I'm currently reading him as town) but I can easily see how others would think it merited a vote. Your quoted answer seems to touch on this tangentially, so why would you think the wagon was so inexplicable?

So you think a desire to use one's ability merits opportunism and general lack of anything that may resemble scumhunting/actual contribution to the thread?

Here's what you said. It doesn't have to do with why you thought it was scummy. It has to do with misrepping a position that you actually quoted. Why did you do that?

SMP was arguing he didn't even know why people voted Lynx, and I was explaining. So what's your issue with what I said? Do you think STD is scum for voting Varsoon for the star point and admitting as much? Why not come out and say so, then?

[Brian Skies]

Here's what you said. It doesn't have to do with why you thought it was scummy. It has to do with misrepping a position that you actually quoted. Why did you do that?

I'm not misrepping you. I literally said he was being opportunistic and not contributing to the thread. You were the one who acknowledged as such ("looked to me as if he was just doing it for the star points") and you were the one who said it didn't look scummy.

[Brian Skies]

Well, didn't make him scum would be more accurate.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=26834
old game
-mara 1v1s me, tunnels for a bit
-fakeclaimed tracker/vig

[Bookitty]

Well, didn't make him scum would be more accurate.

So what was your point again?

[Bookitty]

Also, thanks, Orcinus. I'm kind of distracted at the moment but I should have time tonight to really look at those. I skimmed the first one already.

[Brian Skies]

To make it more understandable and less pointed for you, why don't you think it makes him scummy?

[Brian Skies]

To me, it just seems like a weak reason to justify his actions (and/or lack thereof for that matter).

[Bookitty]

I didn't say that. I said it didn't make him scum. I don't think STD is scum, and he admitted to voting Varsoon for star points. I don't know if Lynx is scum or not, but he's not confirmed scum because he admits to wanting star points.

Again, what is your point with this? Why aren't you questioning SMP, who doesn't even know why anyone would vote Lynx in the first place? Or questioning Lynx or even STD directly, since you think their actions are scummy?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
AMOL
-mara drops a flavor claim under slight pressure at 3/7 votes (RESEMBLANCE TO THIS GAME??) day 1 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p5000547
-full claims doc later

might i also add i caught her in both above games...

[orcinus_theoriginal]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=28296

fakeclaims 1shot bp

[Brian Skies]

I read STD as town. What does everyone think about honeybee this game?

Null. I've been burned by her before and aside from hiding behind her Mara townread, she isn't actually doing that much.

[Cabd]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
AMOL
-mara drops a flavor claim under slight pressure at 3/7 votes (RESEMBLANCE TO THIS GAME??) day 1 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p5000547
-full claims doc later

might i also add i caught her in both above games...

But not me, selkies. Not me.


Taking mara home tonight, will be able to post freely again later this evening.

[Brian Skies]

I didn't say that. I said it didn't make him scum. I don't think STD is scum, and he admitted to voting Varsoon for star points. I don't know if Lynx is scum or not, but he's not confirmed scum because he admits to wanting star points.

Again, what is your point with this? Why aren't you questioning SMP, who doesn't even know why anyone would vote Lynx in the first place? Or questioning Lynx or even STD directly, since you think their actions are scummy?

I'm still catching up. There's nothing to ask Lynx or STD because neither of them contribute any original thought to the game.

There is an ineffable difference between STD and Lynx because STD didn't want to lynch Varsoon. He only joined the wagon because that was the only wagon going through that day and there were enough people townreading STD that people wanted him on the wagon. Lynx just joined the wagon because "lol, I want stahr points." And Lynx did the same thing again today.

I also find it strange that a person who would make a big deal over Varsoon lying about some epiphany or whatever (he didn't because he explained his stance in 647, which no one including him pointing that out) would let this slide instead of jumping over it.

[Bookitty]

To put the quote Brian Skies found so objectionable into context, here's what came before it:

I don't see anything so weird/"interesting" about the Lynx wagon and I'm not philosophically opposed to it either. It's just not my primary interest. I am not crazy about SMP making the vague implication that the wagon is scummy without making accusations outright. I thought I understood why the wagon started, so it didn't ping my scumdar.

Why do you think the wagon started on Lynx, SMP?

So I was actually defending the wagon on Lynx against SMP's attack on it. This would be a novel form of defending Lynx, to be sure. So how was I justifying Lynx's actions, Brian Skies?

[Brian Skies]

Oh, sorry. I started reading my last post so I didn't see it.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=34898

people wonder why i'm scared of cabd in a neighborhood? he got town mason Penguin Alien to fakeclaim masons w/ him.

pedit cabd SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH I CAUGHT YOU IN 165 AND IN TAROT THAT'S 2/3

[Brian Skies]

But that still doesn't answer my question and I never said you were justifying Lynx's actions.

[Bookitty]

@Brian Skies: What did you mean by your Post 1710, then, if you're not suggesting I was using a weak reason to justify his actions?

Can you clarify what you think now that you've actually read my post in context?

[Bookitty]

What is your question? Ask it in plain English, please.

If it's whether I think going for star points is scummy? I guess it would depend on context. If it's why I didn't jump on that wagon? I was pressuring wgeurts to try to get some sense out of him and to me that was more important. If it's something else? Ask away.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p5293008

fakeclaimed full lover (she was only a one-way lover), claimed poisoner (which was her actual ability)

[Save The Dragons]

There's nothing to ask Lynx or STD because neither of them contribute any original thought to the game.

This probably isn't worth arguing, but ouch