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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:15 am

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In post 613, reinoe wrote:Explain the purpose of a scum universal back-up when there's a cop? Actually, I invite that question to anyone. What possible purpose could there be unless this game is designed badly.


eh, there's a tiny little sentence in the post where I claim that alludes to that but frankly I don't think that makes much sense either. Like, cop and doc make some sense in multiball as scumroles, but then, to balance that, you'd probably need another backup on the other team, nothing curves like that. IDK, otherwise you always leave something to complain about from either scumteam. "But they got that it's not fair".

In post 618, FuDuzn wrote:Seriously, am I the only one using logical thinking here?


Looks like it. If I'm the last remaining scum, then you win regardless. What you do next is cover the cases where lynching me doesn't win, because suddenly you are a doc down :) You'd be a lot better off then with me, in stead of without me.

Why are you so invested in this lynch, dear.

In post 623, comradekafka wrote:
In post 619, copper223 wrote:How is lynching Myko logical, when I just gave you a plan that stochastically dominates it, I fail to see.

Lynch Myko vs NL:

- Myko is scum -> same outcome.

- Myko is doc -> clearly better to NL.


NL would be very useful for werewolves/cult?


it's a normal, there are no cults. If there are werewolves, they haven't killed yet.
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:18 am

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In post 624, copper223 wrote:Those are not normal so they cannot be part of this setup.

Werewolves are normal.
Scum typically need to fabricate reasons for scumreads...

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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:20 am

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I have read it FuD, do you believe there is a 0% chance that Myko is not mafia? If you do then first of all I question your belief because I played with players who openly stated they were mafia only to then fip town, second our strats in this very special case are just as good.
I agree with Dessew that the more you push the more I want a check on you.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:23 am

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the way fuduzns play as of now makes sense if he's scum, is if he no killed as a gambit. That does qualify as "there's something awfully wrong this game so far", but it's rather out there. Also, he powerbussed boon then. It's two really forcefull moves for just one mislynch, seems awkward. If he's on a different scumteam than boon and that theory is correct, that still doesn't explain why there were no kills.
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:27 am

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Myko, you still haven't explained how I can block you two nights in a row and their have been no nightkills.

You said there may be multiball, do you really think that the mod gave no no night kill ability to two scum factions? Or even simpler, do you really think the single scum faction has no night kill ability?

See? Makes no sense, logical fallacy's equal you the last scum.

Pre edit: Than check me then, and no I did not say there is no chance that Myko isn't scum.......just that with everything that has transpired that it is logically super unlikely.

And you have played with people who have claimed scum as town? Really?

Pre edit 2: This is the desperation from Myko I was talking about......logical fallacy's.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:36 am

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Yup, although live and not forum. Some people do weird shit when under pressure. I agree with you it seems super likely he is GF from the current game position, but he is totally right that if this is the case he is playing for the lols and has no chance of winning, so we might as well cover the alternatives.

With the number of afkers in this game it's also possible scum failed to submit a kill in the allotted time and that's why we got no kills.
For instancr Goblin claims to be a role cop that did not use his powers, he could easily be a mafia role cop in that case.
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:43 am

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In post 629, FuDuzn wrote:Myko, you still haven't explained how I can block you two nights in a row and their have been no nightkills.

You said there may be multiball, do you really think that the mod gave no no night kill ability to two scum factions? Or even simpler, do you really think the single scum faction has no night kill ability?

See? Makes no sense, logical fallacy's equal you the last scum.

Pre edit: Than check me then, and no I did not say there is no chance that Myko isn't scum.......just that with everything that has transpired that it is logically super unlikely.

And you have played with people who have claimed scum as town? Really?

Pre edit 2: This is the desperation from Myko I was talking about......logical fallacy's.


If I knew why there were no kills, I'd tell you.

Your logic is just as bad, just the sad thing is that proving it requires you to lynch me.

Regardless, the logic continuation is as copper explains. If I'm the only scum, this a won game. If I'm not, you are currently hardcore arguing for a mislynch just because you targeted someone twice with your ability without scumhunting during it. As in, why the hell are anatole and nati not here, why aren't they claiming.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:55 am

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@Fu: It just doesn't make much sense to me. Losing the cop should be a harsh blow on town, as the universal backup cop would be pretty much useless. However, cop loses much of its value if there's a godfather. Tbqh, I'm the most afraid of your being scum RB. Yet, there might have been someone anti-town going utr all game or having some tremendous towncred.

And stop this werewolf nonsense, it's just insane. There haven't been any night kills, and there's a cop who gets their results as Mafia/Not Mafia. What do you want? Where's a seeër, or like any sense of balance?
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:58 am

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Actually, numberwise, lynching would make it faster.
VOTE: myko
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:19 am

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Vote Count


Mykonian (4) - Flubbernugget, FuDuzn, reinoe, Dessew
No Lynch (1) - Copper223

Not Voting: mykonian, Natirasha, Anatole Kuragin, comradekafka, Goblin, Whatisswag
(expired on 2014-12-01 12:31:40)
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:56 pm

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VOTE: Mykonian
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:10 pm

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Fine.

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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:08 pm

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WTF. NOOO.
LET ROLECOP CHECK ON MYKO!!!!!!!
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:17 pm

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In case myko is not mafia, Cop goes on nati, Rolecop goes on dessew, Roleblocker goes on me.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:20 pm

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we have 10 people left over. By following this plan, we can achieve 3.5 clears (I guess rolecop does not really make one a clear), assuming 1 pr dies
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:43 pm

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Or just lynch nati, anatole, fuduzn for the win. Probably in that order.

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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:47 pm

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mykonian wrote:Or just lynch nati, anatole, fuduzn for the win. Probably in that order.

Enjoy your game guys.


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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:45 am

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This thread should be locked.
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:19 am

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Dessew, Nati, Kafka, please explain your reason for getting Myko lynched tomorrow. YES KAFKA TOO, I DONT TRUST YOU.
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:07 am

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In post 643, Whatisswag wrote:Dessew, Nati, Kafka, please explain your reason for getting Myko lynched tomorrow. YES KAFKA TOO, I DONT TRUST YOU.

In post 633, Dessew wrote:Actually, numberwise, lynching would make it faster.
VOTE: myko
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It must be fun being illiterate, tell me more about it.
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:28 am

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Mykonian (6) - Flubbernugget, FuDuzn, reinoe, Dessew, Natirasha, comradekafka
No Lynch (1) - Copper223

Not Voting: mykonian, Anatole Kuragin, Goblin, Whatisswag
(expired on 2014-12-01 12:31:40)
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:31 am

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Emergency! Emergency!
Injured towns person detected!
Emergency! Emergency!
Is there a Doctor in the house?
Checking database...
Checking database...
Checking database..
Cruel! Cruel!
Cruel irony detected

Mykonian was lynched Day Three. He was a Town Doctor.
Night Two begins now and ends in 48 hours
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:59 am

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Pineapple! Pineapple!
10 players were alive at start of night.
1010 players are alive at start of day.
Good luck!

Night Three ends now. Day Four begins now.
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:01 am

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Not Voting: Natirasha, Anatole Kuragin, Dessew, reinoe, Flubbernugget, Copper223, Goblin, comradekafka, FuDuzn, Whatisswag
(expired on 2014-11-28 13:40:59)
Last edited by Empking on Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:28 am

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the fact that you guys killed the doctor and we still didn't have a nightkill seems to imply that jesus himself is endorsing the town as winners of this game

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