Advance Wars UPick!--Game Over..?

[Cephrir]

It's probably a solid place for your vote. I am not 100% going to end up there but you should probably be getting a star and it's winning right now...

But mostly what orc said if possible.

[Save The Dragons]

Unvote

[Bookitty]

Check in tonight or tomorrow morning please please pleas

Tomorrow morning yes.
Not sure about tonight yet.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I'll return to working on this game from 10 PM central onwards. Cephrir/std/anyone else who wants to crank out our lynch tonight

[Albert B. Rampage]

I haven't followed the last few pages but Bookitty wants to vote me now so I'll claim. My CO power at 4 stars is that I can vig.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And I can't vig anyone in Black Hole.

[Hostile Intent]

UNVOTE: Lynx
VOTE: Albert B. Rampage

Am I missing something else here? You're saying you can't vig scum?

I legit missed the unvote, which makes Lynx's ISO make more sense.

[Save The Dragons]

Neo Black Hole is scum.

Black Hole is one of the neighborhoods.

[Konowa]

Neo Black Hole is Scum.
Black Hole is compromised of {SSK, ABR, Cephrir, ffery, orcinus}.

I want to think HI is Town based on the last post.

[Save The Dragons]

Yeah I kind of do too but it's not impossible.

[Hostile Intent]

WELL SHIT THEN.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

AND you're a double voter?

[Konowa]

I guess I should try and get some sort of where my thoughts are in regards to everyone so far.

Some variation of a Town read/Not willing to lynch

gogurt
Cephrir
STD
ffery
SSK
Hostile Intent
Brian
Bookitty
orcinus
notscience

No Clue/Want to Think Town

honey bee
Cabd
ABR

Everyone Else/Willing to lynch

Lynx
flubber
BPC
SMP
Cheetory
Saki

[Cephrir]

You should also tack some reasons onto those please!

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE: Lynx
VOTE: Albert B. Rampage

Am I missing something else here? You're saying you can't vig scum?

Knowing that his claim doesn't preclude him from vigging scum, has your opinion changed?

[Flubbernugget]

Pre-emptive prodge

[Hostile Intent]

UNVOTE: Lynx
VOTE: Albert B. Rampage

Am I missing something else here? You're saying you can't vig scum?

Knowing that his claim doesn't preclude him from vigging scum, has your opinion changed?

Not severely. Has he been able to doublevote the entire game? A doublevoting semi-vig seems excessive either way.

[Save The Dragons]

He started being able to double vote D2.

[Hostile Intent]

Albert, how'd you come about this double vote? Unless you've explained that, in which case STDragons will catch me up I'm sure.

[Cheetory6]

Coming down with a nasty fever. Having trouble seeing straight. Gonna try to stay caught up, but I might be somewhat less active for a little while until I'm feeling better.

Really risky claim to make if ABR's scum. If he's lying then if there's a real vig they'll hopefully get rid of him during the night.
VOTE: Lynx Would be willing to sheep a case I like less if we need a hammer.

Responses to orci, let me know if I misunderstood anything:
i) Why are you waffling on SMP?
-not sure why he would intentionally go this long without voting someone as scum when so many people have called him out on it
-got some townvibes on readback when he stood up to Ceph telling him to get off the wagon.

ii) Is waffling scummy?
Depending on the context, perhaps. Wouldn't call it a scumtell.

iii) Why isn't meta useful? #1653
Wasn't saying it wasn't useful in said quote. Just meant that it felt like Cabd was trying too hard for townpoints by pulling up reasoning that I felt had no bearing on the Varsoon situation. How someone enters a scumchat is usually pretty varied IMO, so I just didn't see the point and felt like it was him trying to seem useful rather than actually intentionally trying to sort Varsoon.

iv) Do you consider yourself a meta-centric player?
I like using it when I've played with someone. I find it hard to objectively analyze the meta of players I haven't played with other than analyzing specific generic playstyle things like "is this person ordinarily emotional under pressure?" Haven't really had the time or interest to seriously look at meta on anyone here.

v) Did you ever end up rereading orci like you promised?
No, primarily because I was feeling like individual ISOs weren't helping me see the big picture enough and I was making too many mistakes in the process. Decided that rereading the game was a better strategy. I admit I kind of skimmed orci interactions because I've been letting my read on him influence that.

vi) How were you not criticizing orci in #1924?
Was saying that Varsoon's play during D1 was bad, not the entire town in general.

vii) Why are you scumreading ffery?

Was musing the idea of SSK and ffery scummates based on weird interactions, but that makes sense via ffery's explanation now.

viii) What is your paranoia on orci?
Every now and again he'll do something so overdramatic or blatantly bandwagony that just gives me weird vibes. Weird vibes on a few interactions isn't outweighing how his interactions with me originally felt pretty townish. Would have been easy to let our argument escalate and derail the entire game, but he talked it out instead. Strongest reason I'm townreading him at the moment and that along with the amnesiac cop investigation overall outweighs my occasional worries that he's been fucking with everything this game.

ix)

I figured if she was scum she should have been modkilled. I have a hard time seeing her temper tantrum being legitimate if she is scum, in which case she would have been abusing a game mechanic for her faction's benefit.

It's just me being angry with how unfair that move was if she's scum, because I only believe what she pulled if she was town and legitimately thought orci's case on her was bullshit. Wasn't reading into Mara's alignment from it because it would have been mod bias if she had been killed and would have been the wrong call to make.

xi) Why didn't you follow through with your questioning of orci's lack of a cabd read?
I felt like regardless of whether he was town or scum, he would have well thought out reasoning for why he would be difficult with answering this. Didn't feel like I was going to get any information from pushing this and was more interested in other lines of questioning.

[Natirasha]

DedicatedScribe replaces LynxKuroneko.

Due to the number of replacements, I am crediting an additional day to the deadline.

[Bookitty]

Thank you, Nati!

[Natirasha]

Vote Count 2.8

Tabitha: So, you're a clone, huh?
Andy: What?

wgeurts(1):

BipolarChemist

DedicatedScribe(4):

Honey bee, Konowa, Bookitty, Cheetory6

Flubbernugget(1):

MafiaSSK

Cephrir(0):

Save the Dragons(0):

BipolarChemist(0):

fferyllt(0):

MafiaSSK(0):

honey bee(0):

Cabd(0):

Hostile Intent(0):

Albert B. Rampage(4):

notscience, Cephrir, Cabd, Hostile Intent

SMP(2):

Brian Skies, orcinus_theoriginal

Brian Skies(0):

Cheetory6(0):

Bookitty(0):

orcinus_theoriginal(0):

Saki(0):

Konowa(0):

notscience(0):

Neotank Mk2(3):

wgeurts, Albert B. Rampage

No Lynch(0):

Not Voting(7):

SMP, Saki, Neotank Mk2, Flubbernugget, LynxKuroneko, fferyllt, Save The Dragons

With twenty-one alive, it takes eleven to lynch.

(expired on 2014-11-28 21:00:00)

[DedicatedScribe]

This game is pretty elaborate.

[Bookitty]

Welcome to the game, DS

UNVOTE: because we have some breathing room now.