Mini 1628: Rick Santorum Saves Xmas - Gaybepocalypse

[Wisdom]

I suggest you definitely shoot among the people I said (well obviously excluding yourself). Marquis is my pick if I had to choose right now.

[Marquis]

seriously
what why

[Mathdino]

The quote is still appropriate, Wisdom. Kono asked Marq to pick box 10 and he didn't.

Scum probably have some extra mechanic we don't know about yet. Not sure there's any use trying to predict it.

@TSQ: But scum have the same drawbacks as town do, as they give the choice of what box has the killing item to town. Also we can actually analyse the White Elephant phase better. The benefit is huge; if someone after agreeing to the proposal is unwilling to take a box, they're scum and that's the killing box. Alternatively, it gives scum the option of taking the killing box when they would not otherwise do so. In effect it opens up the killing mechanic to EVERYONE, not just non-scum.

Off topic: I like how you always have the off topic stuff first. So basically if 'fucktwat' becomes hugely popular it's going to enter historical context and we'll need to find another word?
Also can I assume 'piece of shit', as an inherently dehumanising phrase, is one you don't support?

Edit:

Shootvote: Marquis

[Thestatusquo]

I was going to say something like "directing town power roles is stupid just shoot who you want"

and then I was like wait nature of the set up means the fact that it could be a scum role means I'm probably ok with directing it.

[Marquis]

Kono asked Marq to pick box 10 and he didn't.

crime is fun : ]

[Mathdino]

Also the fact that lynches are more accurate than vigshots, although vigshots are semiuseful for policying.

[Thestatusquo]

No? Show me the system of oppression that has been furthered by "piece of shit." I am not against insults. I am pro insults. I am against using words that have historically been used to further oppression.

Well, I'm not doing it. Suck it.

[Marquis]

ok real time:
1) i'm not scum
2) i'm town
3) leave me alone

does that answer ur questions

[Wisdom]

someone's scared of being shot

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[Mathdino]

Should get more votes on Marquis. Does he usually act like this, anyone who's played with him before?

Off topic: The main thing about what you've seemed to consider oppressive is the dehumanising bit. "Piece of shit" literally dehumanises someone to a dungpile and is fairly offencive, I think. So unless your idea of what's okay and what's not okay ties very deeply into hipster culture (essentially anything that involves the system is bad and anything else is good), I'm still not seeing the inherent difference here. Does the avoidance of the word but not avoiding the word 'cock' or 'dick' not create another gender difference in that it's "better" to be a penis than a vagina?

[Konowa]

re: boxes. Because I trust my ability to figure out the box system better than literally anyone else. Also, because I am assuming scum knows what box has the killing item and town does not I'd prefer not to possibly give the choice of what box I get to someone who could be scum. Lastly because there is literally no benefit at all.

This was my theory as well. Given the short turnaround between final box picked and GiF death, Scum probably prime a box. I will not be leaving a box selection to someone else.

[Konowa]

I want to vote Marquis but I want to talk with Bert first.

[Mathdino]

re: boxes. Because I trust my ability to figure out the box system better than literally anyone else. Also, because I am assuming scum knows what box has the killing item and town does not I'd prefer not to possibly give the choice of what box I get to someone who could be scum. Lastly because there is literally no benefit at all.

This was my theory as well. Given the short turnaround between final box picked and GiF death, Scum probably prime a box. I will not be leaving a box selection to someone else.

...but that's the whole point. The way the system is currently, non-scum will ALWAYS have the killing box. SOME townie is going to die no matter what. All that this whole "I get to figure out the arbitrariness of the boxes" is, is pointless self preservation.

If we pick boxes for each other, we're also picking boxes for scum, which leaves them open to being killed by themselves

[Marquis]

4) why would i receive when i could

steal

as far as i'm concerned that's the whole point of a white elephant. u guys are boring and blaming me for it

pedit bert loves me i'm more concerned about returning to day 1 lynch specials

[Konowa]

It most definitely is self-preservation. If I'm going to die some horrible, gruesome death like GiF I would much rather have it because I chose that box and not that the box was forced on me.

[Mathdino]

So much for the greater good. Guess this is the difference between playing for fun and play to win?

[Wisdom]

Mathdino does have a point. The way it is now, scum are not going to select the primed box, meaning town will always die. If we force everyone to take a certain box someone else says though, then it's possible that scum can be killed. Not very likely, but still possible.

[Mathdino]

Scum won't willingly kill themselves. It's my guess that they'd try to weasel out of picking the killbox, at which point we'd all know what's up.

[Marquis]

can we not lynch me day 1
like at least after the next elephant phase

[Wisdom]

we won't lynch you, we'll just have bert shoot you

[Wisdom]

Vote for who Bert shoots:

Marquis (2) - Wisdom, Mathdino

moar people should vote

[Marquis]

revise: you should probably let me live until elephant phase because related topic

[Thestatusquo]

can we not lynch me day 1
like at least after the next elephant phase

Why the hell should we wait for the next elephant phase?

Like what does that have to do with anything?

This is a suspicious post

[Mathdino]

Because he has an item that has to do with white elephant phase.