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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:09 pm

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In post 324, Thestatusquo wrote:
For you to think I'm mafia based on this logic, you have to actually be mafia.

Please explain this. My nerd brain is too busy "sucking it" to understand what you mean by this.


Haha, I like you. We can be friends.

At any rate, my issue with your logic is that you called me mafia based off of the fact that I wanted to rvs a second time. Then you asked me a question based on me being either bad town or scum, and demanded for my answer.

I don't see how me answering that question with either option gives you insight into my alignment, in yet you're jumping down my throat based on the fact that I won't answer it.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:11 pm

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The bottom line is that I don't feel like you're particularly interested in anything beyond me answering that question, despite the fact that that my answer can't be useful in any way.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:14 pm

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In post 325, Shinobi wrote:
In post 324, Thestatusquo wrote:
For you to think I'm mafia based on this logic, you have to actually be mafia.

Please explain this. My nerd brain is too busy "sucking it" to understand what you mean by this.


Haha, I like you. We can be friends.

At any rate, my issue with your logic is that you called me mafia based off of the fact that I wanted to rvs a second time. Then you asked me a question based on me being either bad town or scum, and demanded for my answer.

I don't see how me answering that question with either option gives you insight into my alignment, in yet you're jumping down my throat based on the fact that I won't answer it.


Sure, but you are aware of this thing called "subtext" right? Like, that question wasn't literally "ARE YOU SCUM LOLZ" I was attacking you and seeing how you responded to the attack. You did not respond in a way that seemed like you were interested in determining my alignment. You responded in a way that suggests that you thought the most important part of the interaction was brushing off the attack. Town cares about the alignment of the people attacking them, scum do not.

That was the reason I didn't like your responses.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:24 pm

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Mathdino, in response to 316.

I was saying that TSQ was not a town read based of what you thought. Maybe it is that I have no experience with him, and I am thinking my gut just doesn't like his playstyle, but when something seems off I investigate.

TSQ, how about what you think. Who are your big town reads?

Pre edit: I do like your logic in attacking shinobi.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:29 pm

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Strong town read on wisdom. Mild townread on tso. I think I have a town read on konowa? But don't quote me on that.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:32 pm

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I'm aware, but that doesn't really make the question that much more meaningful or inquisitive when it comes down to it.

I don't understand how someone brushing off attacks makes them scum, either. Nobody really likes to be called scum, but saying that I'm only interested in brushing the attack off at this point is a bit off the mark, wouldn't you think? Even then, I fail to see how only being defensive is a scumtell.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:33 pm

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No, clearly I do not think that. Also, do not mince my words. I am not attacking you for "being defensive"
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:34 pm

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Sure seems like it to me.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:39 pm

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That's because you're being an idiot.

Look, being defensive is fine. Town players and scum players are defensive in different ways, that's because the fundamentally different things they're attempting to accomplish. For scum, the alignment of the person attacking them is not important, so when they are defending themselves you do not see them in any way attempting to determine alignment. Usually, however, when town are "being defensive" it reveals a fundamental curiosity about the alignment of the people they're arguing with that I feel is lacking from literally all of your posts.

This, tied into the fact that I believe you were attempting to keep the game random as long as possible (something that scum have motivation to do but town do not) makes me really unlikely to want anyone else to die today.

You also have managed to not comment on basically anything in the game besides yourself and me EVEN NOW on page like 3224243434.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:43 pm

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Like look at your iso, dude. Does it read to you like someone who is interested in knowing the alignments of the other people he's playing with.

You have a one off comment calling mathdino town with no reasoning whatsoever, and every other post is just handwaving.
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:45 pm

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TSQ I like your brashness. All thriller no filler
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:54 pm

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It's like the exact opposite of your play.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:02 pm

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Meh, alright. I'll be back in a bit with opinions on stuff.
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:48 pm

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Oh, here's an easy vote:
VOTE: FuDuzn

Tries to get TSQ shot despite agreeing with his logic in terms of attacking me. Ridic.

Other things I don't really like: Bert's read on TSQ. In addition to being combined with the obvious "TSQ is aggressive," it pushes TSQ into being more aggressive while being an ultimately "safe" read, IE TSQ should keep attacking this guy. It's based on the obvious so nobody can call him out on it. It's kind of centered on the fact that people have to know I'm town, but meh.

I agree with Wisdom in saying that the people switching from box 10 are suspicious, but that's obvious so who cares.

I do still like mathdino for town, though. I feel like a lot of his posts are geared towards engaging people and cutting to the heart of the topic du joir: specifically, posts #189, #227, and #307 are the best examples of this mindset. I also like his attempts to push plans, IE his #179 plan and his idea to try to work the killbox into scum's hands, and his insistence in pushing it makes me think he's town. I haven't actually put much thought into the idea as of yet, but I like the way he's interacting with the game. Easy townread, imo.

(Just realized that we can hold people accountable for putting the killbox into other players' hands. If scum has daytalk this plan can backfire, though. We don't know how they can interact with the boxes.)

I want to say TSO is town, but it's mostly just because he called me town and I'm a sucker for people calling me town. I'd like some reasons based on the posts I made when he came up with that read since he came up with that contrary to what other people have thought already. It's a really strange time to call me town since I hadn't really done much at that point. I'd say that's a point in his favor, but again, I'm biased and I need reasons.

Just a couple of thoughts.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:59 pm

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I did want Bert to shoot TSQ, then agreed with his logic in regards to you. One happened after the other......soo, you are saying it is scummy to alter reads based on new information?
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:06 pm

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I don't see where you stated you had a townread on TSQ.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:09 pm

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Meh, I rethought it.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:11 pm

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I can kind of see the read evolving through those posts.

I can also see him being opportunistic in prodding TSQ along.

I want to see him do more things.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:19 pm

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And I never said I had a town read on TSQ, just that I agreed with his positioning in regards to you.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:20 pm

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I think if someone were trying to pick someone in this game to "prod along" it probably wouldn't be me.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:24 pm

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In post 343, FuDuzn wrote:And I never said I had a town read on TSQ, just that I agreed with his positioning in regards to you.


So you still have both of us lined up as lynches/kills despite us fighting?

In post 344, Thestatusquo wrote:I think if someone were trying to pick someone in this game to "prod along" it probably wouldn't be me.


So you don't see the problem in people pushing you to keep attacking me?
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:34 pm

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I think that how or when I attack has very little to do with the opinions of other people in the town.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:45 pm

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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:58 pm

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Theta feels town atm. Wisdom's town, FuDuzn feels very honest, so I'm going to have to say town there as well.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:06 pm

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