Magic: The Gathering,GO TEAM MS!

[Shanba]

Think I would cut the act of treason before the two that BV mentioned (its a moderate at best card, prefers to be in an aggressive deck and yours is very controlling, and is in your least important colour), but yeah no reason not to run 18 lands in that deck. It takes quite an unusual deck to make me go to 17 in this format, and that one in particular just wants to his lands forever.

(arrow storm may also be too greedy, but I'm willing to give that one more of a pass as a strong lategame spell. Double red though.Cut the act and the arrow storm and you probably dont have to run any mountains, and your mana base will be super consistent.)

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Think I would cut the act of treason before the two that BV mentioned (its a moderate at best card, prefers to be in an aggressive deck and yours is very controlling, and is in your least important colour), but yeah no reason not to run 18 lands in that deck. It takes quite an unusual deck to make me go to 17 in this format, and that one in particular just wants to his lands forever.

Triple Smite is awful in draft though, I mean it's reasonable against some decks, though not exactly cheap but it's just dead against a lot of Mardu and Jeskai builds and I've been burnt by having Double Smite before in the maindeck let alone a third.

[beeboy]

You are all incredibly so I will post interesting decks I build from now on.

I tried going elves and decided going against entreat the entreat the angles as I felt green sun and chord of calling was enough to end the game

16 lands was intentional this time as I felt I had a lot of elves

[Shanba]

4 mana garruk! I would play that. Prolly over like, idk domri rade maybe. Nice deck though.

In other cube news:

I was on the draw. Sadness abounds.

[Natirasha]

More forests for most degenerate card in cube, probably.

Not playing Mirari's Wake is probably a mistake.

Mentor+commune seem sketch.

Otherwise looks okay, add forest+Mirari's over those two and you'd have an okay deck. Maybe cut Linvala(eases up your white burden) and put in Wildspeaker or something.

[bv310]

Mirari's Wake over Domri Rade for me.

[Sudo_Nym]

So I've been hearing that a lot of cards are bugged in the new client. Any truth to the rumor?

[bv310]

Not that I've seen, and I play EDH on there pretty frequently. There was a hilarious bug where Black Sun's Zenith/Blasphemous Act broke the game, but they fixed that

[Shanba]

If you'd asked me two months ago I coulda given you a hell of a list.

But suddenly they've actually started fixing card bugs. I'm not sure if some of the pauper ones (kaervek's torch not costing more mana to target, oubliette not returning the creature after it is destroyed) are still around, but the ones I've run into since (nahiri attaching equipment to the wrong token, cruel ultimatum restarting the game because I had no creature to raise dead, floodtide serpentherpaderping everything, spirespine bestow block bug) have since been fixed.

Like I said this is strange because I can't remember a card bug being fixed before then.

Mtgo has also not bugsplatted for me for a while and every once in a while the client has new features these days. It makes me nervously, cautiously and worriedly optimistic for the future of the program.

[bv310]

Both of the Pauper ones have been fixed. I think they've finally stabilized V4, so they can start fixing all the weird client-side issues. With any luck, they'll fix the server-side issues in the near future. It's hard not to be slightly more okay with the program as time passes.

[Thestatusquo]

I haven't had an actual "this is a bug" issue on mtgo in a couple of months. I've had a whole fuck ton of "wow this is designed really shittily" issues, but thats a given with mtgo.

[bv310]

I think outdated is probably the most accurate for MTGO, but at least it's approaching outdated and functional.

[Thestatusquo]

Thing is, the old version was outdated and function too, this version is less outdated but also less functional.

I don't think that's a good tradeoff.

[Shanba]

Spoiler: Pauper Turbofog

4 Ponder
4 Brainstorm
4 Preordain
4 Words of Wisdom
4 Evolving Wilds
10 Island
3 Forest
4 Jace's Erasure
4 Moment's Peace
4 Fog
4 Arcane Denial
2 Gitaxian Probe
4 Treasure Cruise
1 Lull
4 Thornwood Falls

Sideboard:
4 Eye of Nowhere
4 Boomerang
4 Temporal Spring
3 Dispel

Thoughts?

[chamber]

Turbofog is really boring to play with and against is my only thought (outside of the gimick value for the first few games with a deck).

[Thestatusquo]

Thats awesome. I'm going to sleeve that up and play a little.

Can your curve afford more fetchlands? I feel as if brainstorm isn't going to be good like this.

[Sudo_Nym]

The Panoramas are common, and can tap for mana if you're not ready to fetch. Might be a solution.

[Shanba]

You can run more fetches (and terramorphic expanse is also a common, so you dont need panoramas if they're harder to get hold of) but I'm not 100% sure it works with the curve. If you really want to you can cut the gainlands, I think. It's worth noting that brainstorm works extremely well with Jace's Erasure - towards the end of the game you just start firing off cantrips and can easily mill them out from 20-30 cards in a turn if you have multiple erasures out.

Gitaxian probe could be thought scour, and there could be more room in the list for countermagic somewhere. The boomerang sideboard plan comes in against decks where the fogs don't really do anything, like against ghostly flicler.deck, and against higher curve decks like Mono B or RG Tron when you're on the play. Worth noting that the fog plan is still very good against the latter - save your counters for ulamog's crusher and rolling thunder, beat the fangren marauders by fogging them out.

Lull is a card I just wanted to test out. It's tested really well so far - cycling fog helps because you can get annoyingly flooded with fogs sometimes.

Edit: Colourless mana is a little awkward because of how many of your cards are single blue cantrips.

[Shanba]

Greg Hatch is something else

[hasdgfas]

Greg Hatch is something else

Yeah. I have no idea what that deck tech was, and I watched the whole thing. I'm still not sure I understand what the deck is doing.

[bv310]

Greg Hatch is something else

Yeah. I have no idea what that deck tech was, and I watched the whole thing. I'm still not sure I understand what the deck is doing.

Accurate to my feelings as well.

[Klazam]

what deck? is there a list

[bv310]

Not yet, but I'll post the deck tech in here as soon as SCG puts it on youtube.

[bv310]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQMmmZg ... 5ztKGrWT-g

[Klazam]

its a helm-locket-divining top-altar infinite combo for the infinite mill. everything else is to accelerate to that. not sure how LED is being used though