Magic: The Gathering,GO TEAM MS!

bv310 · Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:38 am

That's fucking awesome. Still not going to turn me from rooting for Team Canada, but I'll watch for his name.

bv310 · Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:24 am

I'm really excited for this Standard season

bv310 · Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:26 am

I like Jeskai Ascendancy. Tap my creatures to play Triplicate Spirits/Stoke the Flames, then they untap and get bigger? Hell yes, I'm onboard with that.

bv310 · Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:20 pm

Decided to draft Vintage Masters on a whim today. Managed to draft a passable UB Storm deck. Time to see how horribly this goes

bv310 · Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:26 am

He took the Filibuster tactic on a couple cards. I appreciated that.

Also, the Magic Editor stipulation was great. You can have a total of 40 words in your card names.

bv310 · Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:56 pm

I'm going to watch and pump it on facebook. Hopefully rope in a few people to donate, even if I'm too broke to join in.

bv310 · Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:25 am

I really enjoy LR, so I'm hoping this one will be just as good

bv310 · Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:08 am

I enjoy Marshall, but I wasn't a regular listener before about a year ago, so I've only ever known Brian Wong.

bv310 · Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:15 am

I like Marshall.

Unrelated, but this is the (probably awful) idea I'm looking to pick up to play around with post-Friday:

Creatures:17
4 Ornithopter
4 Chief Engineer
2 Jeering Instigator
4 Phyrexian Revoker
3 Scuttling Doom Engine

Spells:19
4 Ghostfire Blade
4 Ensoul Artifact
4 Magma Jet
4 Shrapnel Blast
2 Hammer of Purphoros
1 Bident of Thassa

Lands:24
4 Darksteel Citadel
7 Island
5 Mountain
4 Shivan Reef
4 Temple of Epiphany

Suggestions?

bv310 · Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:01 am

In post 4556, InflatablePie wrote:I would personally go 6/6 for basics, but maybe that's wrong since Jeering/Shrapnel/etc are more lategame cards and Cheif/Ensoul are early-game. I'm terrible with manabases. Also depends on your board.

I feel like you can maybe cut a Ghostfire Blade and run 3/2 Lightning Strike/Magma Jet, but maybe the Scry is better since the deck is combo-y.

SB should probably include counterspells (Negate etc), maybe 2 Angers (even if they have the possibility to kill your own stuff), 1-2 Keranos for grindy matchups, one-of Chandra in the board can work maybe. I dunno. List looks fun though.

I think I want the 7/5 split just to make sure I hit early Chief/Ensouls. Losing a Ghostfire for 2 Lightning Strike is a solid idea.

Sideboard-wise, I like Negate/Anger, and maybe a Chandra, but I think Keranos just falls over the line of being too slow for this. I'd kill for a Faithless Looting variant, tbh. Tormenting Voices maybe?

bv310 · Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:29 pm

So Melira Pod is really fun to play. Finally managed to grind/sell enough to get the whole thing on MTGO (Windswept Heaths over Misty Rainforests, though I need to wait for Khans to actually make that work). I've so far played 5 games on MTGO with it tonight. Played one against WUR Geist, and 4 against 8Rack, which is apparently a big thing now? I'm 4-1 currently. Dropped one to 8Rack because I'm new and missed a line of play that would have let me combo out.

bv310 · Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:48 pm

Merfolk's so much fun too

Poor fishies.

bv310 · Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:29 am

MGD with Genesis Hydra looks pretty tempting, tbh, but I've been in love with Pod since the days of Huntmaster of the Fells, so it was inevitable.

bv310 · Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:45 am

I expected a ton of Robots/Burn/Fish, but I didn't expect that much Tron/8Rack. Gonna up the Obstinate Baloths and maybe toss in a Sigarda against 8Rack. Pod up to Sigarda and they have literally no answer to it. Baloths are also hilarious against Turn 1 Raven's Crime.

bv310 · Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:15 am

The other one I'm seeing a lot today is Bloom Titan. Really annoying matchup

bv310 · Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:41 pm

Nice pulls. I'm planning to pick up a box of Khans in the near-ish future.

bv310 · Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:14 am

In spite of the fact that it's losing, I'm really liking the WRu Tempo list

bv310 · Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:23 am

I'm in, and approve of stricter deadlines

bv310 · Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:01 am

I don't agree with the cheating, but it couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy.

bv310 · Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:45 pm

Yep, but almost everybody I've talked to assumes "America" refers to a Red, White, and Blue deck. Legacy BUG seems to have lost its name.

bv310 · Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:19 am

Except for the fact that Hierarchs cost a fuckton, I'd be playing this deck now.

bv310 · Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:49 am

I usually try to force Reanimator if I get the good cards early. It's my favourite archetype in this Cube

bv310 · Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:28 am

Glitteirng Wishes are up to $15-17

bv310 · Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:29 am

Time Spiral, man. Shit got weird.

bv310 · Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:08 am

I blame that on getting a Heartless Summoning in my first prize pack from an FNM.

bv310 · Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:13 pm

I KNEW IT COULD BE A THING! I like the aggro-y version a bit more, but i'll be damned if I'm not slapping this together for MTGO Dailies

bv310 · Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:33 am

I always support buying in to Modern, but if your FNMs aren't Modern, it's probably not worth selling out of Standard entirely

bv310 · Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:22 pm

Aww, Brian Wong's stepping down as cohost of LR. Planning to come on once per set-ish.

Hoping Jon Loucks comes back?

bv310 · Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:00 pm

I'd be running Empty the Pits over Whip MB. Empty is just such an insanely good lategame card at instant speed.

bv310 · Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:04 pm

In post 4697, xRECKONERx wrote:I'm pretty much not in standard right now because everything I had was basically RTR block

Alright then, let's find you a Modern deck. What kind of deck do you want to play? Budget?

(Also, use https://pucatrade.com/invite/gift/12482 if you can't find buyers for your good cards. It takes longer, but you get full value for your cards)

bv310 · Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:58 am

Planning to do a Sealed or two on MTGO tonight. Going to go Abzan, then Jeskai.

bv310 · Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:43 pm

Hey Shea, are you still buying up VMA Power? I impulse-bought a VMA pack while buying my prerelease tag and opened an Ancestral Recall (also a Berserk, but that's less exciting)

bv310 · Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:10 am

I hate it because my choices are MTGO or not playing Magic. It fucking sucks.

bv310 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:57 am

In post 4741, Natirasha wrote:There's a lot of talk about it being bork'd in Modern, and there, unbanning BBE or something for the non-blue fair decks I think would fix the problem.

I'd say DRS because that card is actually pretty solid against Treasure Cruise, but then we run into BGx v UR Delver v Jeskai Ascendency v Burn and that does not sound like a fun metagame!

Ascendency should be banned, though. I dunno. I've watched a couple pros play the deck now and it is probably just busted. It draws though the deck at such a rate that bolting a bird doesn't work(if they don't just play Caryatid), plays seven copies of Ascendency so you can easily get them. Mana dorks get around Blood Moon, Wishboard lets it get through any sort of hate. I usually try to be lenient on bans, but this deck is way too strong. It's kinda a shame, because I like the deck.

I'm fully expecting Jeskai Ascendancy to get banned out in January if it starts consistently putting up results like it appears to. Either it or Glittering Wish will get the boot, I think.

bv310 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:19 am

Plus, it seems to be a consistent Turn 3 win, and they've said that they don't want those in Modern.

bv310 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:11 pm

So I'm trying a new thing out for Pod. Basically cut the Melira combo pieces (Melira, Viscera Seer, and Ranger of Eos) for disruption in the form of Thoughtseize and MD Entomber Exarch, and a bit more midrangey goodness from an Anafenza, the Foremost. Results so far have been pretty positive, but I'm not sure if this maindeck is optimal, or if I'm missing really key sideboard cards.

http://deckstats.net/deck-5052641-ef4d8 ... b00c7.html

Thoughts?

bv310 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:12 pm

I may also decide to be weird and throw in Doran, the Siege Tower instead of Anafenza, though it makes certain parts of the Twin matchup weird.

bv310 · Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:37 am

It'll probably stick around in Standard. The deck isn't that insane from what I've seen.

bv310 · Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:45 pm

I really love watching the variety of this standard so far. Combo, Control, Aggro, and Midrange are all coming out in force so far, and that makes me happy.

bv310 · Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:02 am

I really like the Altar version, fwiw

bv310 · Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:08 pm

So thanks to Todd Anderson's deck tech at the PT, I'm planning to put this together:

4 Ornithopter
4 Phyrexian Revoker
4 Ghostfire Blade
4 Springleaf Drum
4 Ensoul Artifact
4 Hero of Iroas
4 Heliod's Pilgrim
1 Ajani Steadfast
4 Gods Willing
4 Stratus Walk
1 Spectra Ward
1 Singing Bell Strike
4 Darksteel Citadel
4 Flooded Strand
4 Temple of Enlightenment
2 Mana Confluence
4 Island
3 Plains
SB: 4 Master of Waves
SB: 4 Stubborn Denial
SB: 3 Suspension Field
SB: 2 Erase
SB: 1 Ordeal of Heliod
SB: 1 Mortal Obstinacy

It looks really fun, and can definitely win enough to be worth it. Not sure if it's better than the Red version with Shrapnel Blast, but Heliod's Pilgrim is super good.

bv310 · Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:42 am

There's always douchebags, just some of them who are more visible than others

If you want to play the game, but don't want to deal with the dickbags who play, there's the Duels of the Planeswalkers series on Steam/Android, and Magic Online. I play on MTGO almost exclusively right now, because I'm living in the absolute middle of nowhere, and it's the methadone to my cardboard heroin addiction.

bv310 · Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:54 am

The deck I posted at the bottom of the last page would cost about $150ish to put together, and most of that is held up in Flooded Strand/Temple of Enlightenment. Strands aren't thoroughly needed either, though they help the deck a TON.

Edit: It's also a deck that one of the Pros took to the Pro Tour last weekend. It's definitely good enough for FNM/Standard Dailies online.

bv310 · Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:04 am

In post 4833, Anatole Kuragin wrote:Phyrexian Revoker as a mainboard is kind of exciting.

It's weird, but it's really good against all the planeswalkers in the format. Definitely sucks against Siege Rhino.dec

bv310 · Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:55 am

Cut the Blinding Flare for more Stoke the Flames/Lightning Strike. Flare isn't really a great card unless you're already ahead on board, and more removal would have the same effect.

bv310 · Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:33 pm

In post 4842, Natirasha wrote:In standard? No. But in Modern? I can 100% believe that.

Speaking as a Melira Pod player, Treasure Cruise is the card I least want to see right now. The thing's just insanely good, to the point that I'm wondering what I can run that'll actually shut it down without being dead 90% of the time.

bv310 · Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:55 pm

I think you could pull it off in that jank Sphere of Safety + Sigil of the Empty Throne deck that Shanba loves.

bv310 · Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:21 am

3cmc to double-bounce lands makes it a grossly powerful card.

bv310 · Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:29 pm

Sealed PTQ or Draft?

Also, 5c in this format is not nearly as bad as other formats. I've drafted 4 and 5c decks perfectly fine because of the hilarious amount of fixing available.

bv310 · Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:07 pm

So I spent a good chunk of the night playing the Tournament Practice room on MTGO. I was playing my Archangel Pod list:

4 Birds of Paradise
2 Noble Hierarch
3 Voice of Resurgence
1 Wall of Roots
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Sin Collector
1 Spike Feeder
1 Eternal Witness
1 Orzhov Pontiff
1 Courser of Kruphix
3 Kitchen Finks
1 Restoration Angel
1 Entomber Exarch
1 Murderous Redcap
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Reveillark
1 Shriekmaw
1 Archangel of Thune

4 Birthing Pod
2 Chord of Calling
2 Abrupt Decay
3 Thoughtseize

1 Godless Shrine
2 Temple Garden
2 Overgrown Tomb
4 Windswept Heath
2 Snow-Covered Forest
1 Snow-Covered Plains
1 Snow-Covered Swamp
2 Razorverge Thicket
4 Verdant Catacombs
3 Gavony Township
1 Woodland Cemetery

Sideboard:
1 Burrenton Forge-Tender
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Eidolon of Rhetoric
1 Reclamation Sage
2 Lingering Souls
1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Siege Rhino
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Fracturing Gust

I played a total of 20 games over the night. Of those, 16 were against almost identical UR Delver lists. Treasure Cruise has done gross things to the Online meta.

bv310 · Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:17 am

I really want to play the Ascendancy Combo deck. IT'S STANDARD LEGAL COMBO!

bv310 · Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:56 am

I can't remember if the Umbrella Revolution list was the same as the one I was looking at. Was Umbrella the one with only one Altar of the Brood, or was it the Twinflame one?

bv310 · Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:30 am

Yeah, the LSV list is the one I wanted to play. Seems much more consistent and fits with my usual playstyle.

bv310 · Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:23 am

In post 4898, Klazam wrote:Any of youse located in seattle? Whats the best store around there?

I hear Card Kingdom is the best in the area, but that's only through places like Reddit, so take that how you will. I think Starcitygames is also headquartered there, so that might be worth checking out.

bv310 · Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:50 am

50 person draft night sounds insane and I want to be a part of it. That many draft pods firing at once would just be silly.

bv310 · Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:14 am

In post 4910, Thestatusquo wrote:That's just like... Our FNM...

They used to fire all the draft pods at once, which was usually about 6-10 depending on the number of people, now they fire them as they fill up, which typically means that roughly 12 pods fire over the course of the night.

I've never had a Draft FNM more than 20 or so people. Standard might break 40 on a good week, if the format is newer.

bv310 · Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:32 am

Hells naw. Modern's an excellent format, Treasure Cruise or no.

bv310 · Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:05 am

The past 26 games I've played in Modern 8-man/Daily/Tournament Practice rooms have had 23 against decks running Treasure Cruise. I'm currently debating figuring out a blue splash for Pod so I can run Remand out of spite.

bv310 · Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:07 am

In post 4969, bv310 wrote:The past 26 games I've played in Modern 8-man/Daily/Tournament Practice rooms have had 23 against decks running Treasure Cruise. I'm currently debating figuring out a blue splash for Pod so I can run Remand out of spite.

Sorry, make that 27. Yet another UR Delver deck.

bv310 · Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:30 am

Yep. Snapcaster/Fetches make the deck cost about 300ish tix, compared to 400ish for Pod and 110 for Burn. I'm not even sure I enjoy playing Modern online right now because of how many Delver decks I play against. Playing against the same deck every single game is really fucking boring.

bv310 · Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:26 pm

Ugh, preboarding one Thrun doesn't seem good enough, but it's definitely a start.

bv310 · Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:19 pm

Man, watching the VSL was enough to want me to run Notion Thief. Watching someone Thief in response to Gush was just hilarious.

bv310 · Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:38 pm

There aren't any fetches in M15.

Related, I'm planning to buy a fatpack and/or box of Khans on Friday when my paycheque comes in. Haven't opened any sealed product since Conspiracy, and that was only one draft. I'm trying to figure out a bunch of 2-man drafts to play with the packs as well. Thinking either Solomon or Winston. Any other good ones I've missed?

bv310 · Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:39 am

No, but there's mail service and Facetofacegames to ship to me. I've got me a hankering to start using PucaTrade again.

bv310 · Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:55 am

Meh, they try to stick to the idea of "everyone can come back around", which I disagree with on principle.

Good riddance to cheaters, is my takeaway.

bv310 · Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:51 am

I like watching Caleb Durward when he streams. He's friendly and explains so much of what he's doing. I'm also a sucker for Draft streams like Numot. (Also Joe Lossett because I wish I could play any deck like he plays Miracles)

bv310 · Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:09 am

In post 5031, hasdgfas wrote:er on a flier, commenting about how it can block fliers now that it has reach.

LRR are pretty great to watch just for the silly draft restrictions

bv310 · Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:09 pm

That was one of my favourite draft wins I've seen on stream.

bv310 · Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:21 am

Nutty is awesome. I love drafting Khans, and current Standard looks like a ton of fun. Current Modern is shitty, which makes me sad, but if a month or two of my deck not being the best in the format is what I have to put up with for a good draft format, I'll take it (as long as it's not permanent)

bv310 · Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:22 am

In post 5068, Thestatusquo wrote:You could easily make your deck have play against that deck. Start maindecking 4 Thalia and 4 eidelon of rhetoric or something.

But it's Pod. 1 Eidolon, 1 maindeck Thrun, 2 Lingering Souls out of the board is about the extent of my changes at the moment. What else should I change up?

bv310 · Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:47 am

So play Hatebears?

bv310 · Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:06 pm

There's a hilarious amount of mana dorks and Twin in the format, and she shuts down all of them.

bv310 · Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:06 pm

There's a hilarious amount of mana dorks and Twin in the format, and she shuts down all of them.

bv310 · Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:03 pm

That explains why a bunch of Jaces I see people playing look like they've been chewed on. I just figured it was because they were cheaper.

bv310 · Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:12 pm

Reprint in one of the Commander decks. Not the thing I'm most psyched about from these decks (that honour goes to Freyalise)

bv310 · Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:48 pm

I feel like that would just have the True-Name Nemesis issue again with the blue deck being sold out everywhere and the rest sitting on shelves.

bv310 · Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:36 pm

Hold on to them until GP Madrid in a few weeks. It's the first Modern event since Treasure Cruise that'll get significant airplay. If Delver wins like it appears set to, Remands will spike even more.

bv310 · Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:37 pm

In post 5116, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 5113, bv310 wrote:I feel like that would just have the True-Name Nemesis issue again with the blue deck being sold out everywhere and the rest sitting on shelves.

They have made it perfectly clear that they are willing to print the shit out of commander products. Everyone who bought out that deck to sit on is pretty sad about it.

Some people will make the same mistake, but I wager not as many.

To be fair, the first two or three months of those decks out had a shitload of everything-that-wasn't-Mind-Seize sitting on shelves at stores.

bv310 · Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:27 am

Every single deck that was 4-0 in yesterday's Modern Daily ran a full set of Treasure Cruise: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/16295

This bothers me a lot.

(Also http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/249733 did well and I love it because it's awful)

bv310 · Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:37 am

53% of every deck 3-1 or better. I'm honestly considering Rest in Peace out of the sideboard in Angel Pod and/or switching it up to Naya to fit in Kiki-Jiki combo alongside Archangel.

bv310 · Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:46 am

I'm buying the Nahiri one. The fact that it comes with a Skullclamp (meaning her +2 can also just read "Draw 2 cards") is a big sell for me. I'm planning to go Cat-tribal with it.

bv310 · Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:39 am

In Modern or Standard? Both enable a real combo deck to exist. In Standard, the combo is using Mana-dork+Retraction Helix+Ascendancy+0-cost Artifact to draw through your entire deck and pump the dork to a hilarious level. Because the looting on Ascendancy is a "May", you eventually mass a boardstate where you can pump your dorks infinitely. You can also immediately kill them by digging to Altar of the Brood and milling their entire deck.

bv310 · Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:45 am

Wizards didn't ban anything, his LGS did. Sounds like a bunch of whiny players got it house-banned.

bv310 · Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:10 am

This is at least a sign that they're willing to try, and so far it seems successful. There's no degenerate Jeskai Ascendancy deck dominating every tournament. So far it seems like the only real mistake card was Treasure Cruise, and even that's just a result of the current meta.

bv310 · Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:36 am

Basically what Chamber said. You'd end up sanctioning the tournament as a Casual event, meaning no FNM promos, but you can ban cards that your players don't like.

bv310 · Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:41 am

Man, I miss Glory's Rise combo. That was such a stupid deck.

bv310 · Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:24 pm

New Card from PAX Australia, along with the next duel deck being Elspeth v Kiora

Hybrid Mana is back!

bv310 · Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:38 pm

One more spoiler. Mono-Black boardwipe

bv310 · Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:37 pm

This Jeskai combo deck that's 8-0 at SCG Oakland is making me really happy.

bv310 · Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:57 pm

Man, Siege Rhino is such a good card. I'm running it in Modern Angel Pod right now and it's been a ton of value. Still can't decide if it's right to maindeck, but I really like it.

This is what I'm sporting online and probably looking to start piecing together in paper:
4 Birds of Paradise
3 Noble Hierarch
1 Wall of Roots
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Spellskite
3 Voice of Resurgence
1 Spirit of the Labyrinth
1 Eternal Witness
1 Sin Collector
1 Orzhov Pontiff
4 Kitchen Finks
1 Spike Feeder
1 Restoration Angel
1 Entomber Exarch
1 Siege Rhino
1 Reveillark
1 Archangel of Thune
1 Shriekmaw

3 Abrupt Decay
4 Birthing Pod
2 Chord of Calling

3 Gavony Township
3 Razorverge Thicket
4 Verdant Catacombs
1 Godless Shrine
1 Temple Garden
2 Overgrown Tomb
4 Windswept Heath
3 Snow-Covered Forest
1 Snow-Covered Plains
1 Snow-Covered Swamp

Sideboard:
1 Reclamation Sage
2 Path to Exile
3 Thoughtseize
1 Eidolon of Rhetoric
2 Kor Firewalker
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Kataki, War's Wage
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Orzhov Pontiff

bv310 · Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:40 am

In post 5271, Thestatusquo wrote:Whats the point of playing magic then?

EDH?

Also, best draw effect is clearly http://magiccards.info/query?q=divine+i ... rd&s=cname

bv310 · Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:32 pm

You've never drafted with him.

bv310 · Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:55 pm

I feel like I could only play Modern and Limited for the rest of my Magic-playing life, and I would be perfectly happy. Standard doesn't interest me all that much, and Legacy is hilariously overly expensive for me (though I only need to buy Forces/Dazes and my Merfolk deck is basically Legacy-legal)

bv310 · Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:52 pm

I enjoy how Modern gets a lot of different archetypes than Legacy. Force of Will keeps a lot of the dumber decks from being possible. Things like Archangel Pod could never be a real deck in Legacy unless you somehow rounded up every Force known to mankind and burned them.

bv310 · Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:44 pm

I don't have Khans fetches right now, but I'll let you know next time I get sealed product and/or singles.

bv310 · Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:43 am

Any chance one of you guys wants to buy a Modern Burn list on MTGO? I have Eidolons and crap and have no desire to play it. I'll even kick in the stuff you need to convert to Legacy Burn for free.

bv310 · Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:11 pm

This is the list. Whole thing's worth about 94 tickets, but I'm willing to take about 70-75, since that's pretty much what I'd get parting it out to Bots. I'd also take trades in sealed product so I can draft more.

4 Lightning Bolt
4 Goblin Guide
4 Hellspark Elemental
4 Skullcrack
2 Grim Lavamancer
4 Lava Spike
3 Shard Volley
3 Searing Blaze
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
4 Flames of the Blood Hand
4 Rift Bolt
20 Mountain

3 Combust
2 Searing Blood
3 Smash to Smithereens
3 Molten Rain
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Dragon's Claw

Keep in mind, to make this the Daily-winning list, you need 4 Scalding Tarn, 4 Treasure Cruise, which is about 120 Tickets from bots. Arid Mesa/Bloodstained Cliffs are also really useful for upgrading.

bv310 · Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:14 am

Yep. Cedric/Patrick are my favourite coverage pair for stuff like that.

bv310 · Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:15 pm

I should download OCTGN, and I'd be down for an EDH Night.

bv310 · Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:19 am

In post 5328, Thestatusquo wrote:Well, I'm going to sleeve it up in the standard daily tonight and see how it feels.

Let me know how it goes. I have the whole thing on MTGO from my dalliances with WU Heroic in Block, except for Flooded Strands, and Standard Dailies run at a convenient time for me.

Also, they have Pauper Dailies again, but they're at an awful time and no one plays any more because all the casual players stopped when they got rid of them in the first place.

bv310 · Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:32 pm

Abzan and Jeskai are huge online.

bv310 · Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:34 am

Hey Shea and/or other Legacy players, do you think the new Titania card from Commander has a home in Nic-Fit? I'm trying to find a Legacy deck to start slowly building to, and Nic looks like my kind of deck.

bv310 · Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:25 am

I WILL NOT BE BUT I WILL BE WATCHING THE STREAM AND CHEERING FOR YOU

bv310 · Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:14 pm

The right answer is Soldiers. Land the T1 Suppression Field every game, no fear.

bv310 · Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:34 pm

Yeah, the MTGO Shuffler is a cruel mistress.

bv310 · Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:58 pm

Buy fetches with credit. Pretty much guaranteed to never lose value.

bv310 · Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:49 am

I'll be honest, I'm watching Madrid more than New Jersey, even though the coverage for NJ is way better than Madrid. Modern is a weird format to play/watch.

bv310 · Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:11 am

6-3 is still a pretty solid result. Go draft your face off today!

bv310 · Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:01 am

Trail of Mystery/Secret Plans are actually playable. Making your Morphs better than your opponents' Morphs is a huge advantage.

bv310 · Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:38 am

I am surprisingly jealous of that Lotus. Nice piece of history there.

bv310 · Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:38 am

In post 5416, chamber wrote:You getting a lotus signed bothers me so much.

I don't think I could do it. I had a hard time getting Christopher Rush to sign old Mana Leaks (sidenote: he's the coolest artist to talk to besides RK Post. Loved talking about weird art requests from WotC)

bv310 · Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:10 pm

I recently bought into Pod, so I'm biased here, but Pod is the best. The sheer variety and versatility of the deck means that you can adapt it to any meta. There were three in the finals of GP Madrid this weekend, so they're worth checking out. Right now, it looks like Archangel Pod is the way to go.

bv310 · Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:35 pm

Finals meaning top 8 >.>

bv310 · Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:23 pm

The two are pretty far apart though. Buying Hierarchs first means you could play Infect to lead into Pod, since they share a fairly similar manabase, and the deck is pretty cheap besides the Hierarchs.

bv310 · Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:36 am

In post 5471, Thestatusquo wrote:If you want tier one, burn is like actually pretty close and probably like 120 tix.

Yep, and if you want it online, I posted a list a few pages back that I'd be happy to sell you.

bv310 · Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:54 am

To be fair, Deceiver Exarch survives Bolt too.

bv310 · Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:34 pm

I've dealt with Facetoface a lot in the past, they're really great to deal with.

Also, make sure to get RK Post to sign some stuff. Dude's cool to chat with.

bv310 · Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:13 pm

tcgplayer.com mid price is pretty standard for person-to-person trades.

bv310 · Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:02 pm

I've drafted the LR cube a couple times, it's really really fun.

bv310 · Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:41 am

Hooray for coverage! I'm a huge fan of Kevin Grove's list. It's basically the same deck I'm running right now, except I haven't put the second Archangel in, though it's possible that that's the right play, since she has a shitload of value with a lot of the rest of the deck. I'm temped to test a singleton Cartel Aristocrat, for the extra combo with Archangel+Finks, but I'm not sure if that's too cute. Choke is hilarious out of the board, as is Worship. Having Bolt-proof creatures is a really important part of doing well right now. (I'm also tempted to try Abzan Charm instead of Chord of Calling. It's removal or card draw depending on what you need, and has the occasional fringe value of pumping a creature for lethal or gaining extra life off of Spike Feeder.

bv310 · Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:34 pm

So here's info for you: http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/10 ... s-of#notes

No Wedges at all in Dragons of Tarkir.

bv310 · Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:21 am

Yeah, Yasova and Surrak are both boring as shit for RUG commanders. Give me Riku/Animar any day.

bv310 · Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:04 pm

Congrats! You now officially have more Day 2s than me!

bv310 · Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:38 am

I swear the second I sit down to play a Modern Daily, I become unable to play my freaking deck. I'm playing Sam Pardee's Archangel Pod list with the MD Thragtusk and SB Cranial Extraction

Spoiler: I kind of hate myself

Hey KDowns, what list were you running?

bv310 · Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:48 am

In post 5572, hasdgfas wrote:
In post 5571, Thestatusquo wrote:Does it include Zach Hill or BDM?

I would rather listen to those 2 over Rashad.

Same. Rashad is mind-numbingly boring.

bv310 · Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:05 am

Shea drafted mono-Red in Cube? It's a miracle!

bv310 · Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:44 am

I end up in either Twin or Ramp every time I Cube. It's becoming something of a problem.

bv310 · Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:56 am

I'd recommend downloading the most recent Duels of the Planeswalkers game. The first chapter's free, and has a tutorial to get you up to speed on the game/deckbuilding very quickly. You can also pick up a lot from the mtgoacademy site. I think they have a tutorial for beginners.

Feel free to add me on MTGO (bv310), though I usually draft or play Modern/EDH, so I'm not going to be a ton of help for you.

bv310 · Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:41 am

FUCK TEAM USA! GO TEAM CANADA! (Seriously though, good luck to him!)

bv310 · Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:19 am

WELL SHIT

bv310 · Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:59 pm

I honestly can not think of a single reason other than sales on tix like MTGOTraders had last week.

bv310 · Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:33 pm

I would have run Hypnotic Specter instead

bv310 · Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:25 pm

I agree on #1 and 3, but I think Pain Seer instead of Bob is probably better. This deck has a ton of 4-drops, and being able to turn off Bob triggers by not attacking seems decent.

bv310 · Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:46 am

Which weekend is it?

bv310 · Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:47 am

Oh, I'll still be up here teaching that weekend

bv310 · Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:11 pm

Interestingly, if you animate a land in a way that doesn't colour it, you can actually equip it with Ghostfire Blade.

bv310 · Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:58 pm

That ain't a curve, that's a brick. Also 16 lands for that setup makes me sad. That's an 18-land pool if I've ever seen one. Cut a Smite and either Scaldkin or Whirlwind Adept.

Unrelated, but have any of you guys tried Pucatrade? I think I'm hooked on it. Sent out two spare shocklands, a Keranos, a Craterhoof, and 2 Stoke the Flames, and gotten a bunch of Archangel Pod stuff in return (2 Orzhov Pontiffs, an Archangel, a Siege Rhino, 2 Scavenging Ooze, and a Windswept). Looking forward to going home for Christmas so I can scour the cards I have kicking around home and ship a bunch of stuff out. Hoping I can just go home at March Break with my full MTGO list in paper.

bv310 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:58 am

Mirari's Wake over Domri Rade for me.

bv310 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:16 pm

Not that I've seen, and I play EDH on there pretty frequently. There was a hilarious bug where Black Sun's Zenith/Blasphemous Act broke the game, but they fixed that

bv310 · Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:47 am

Both of the Pauper ones have been fixed. I think they've finally stabilized V4, so they can start fixing all the weird client-side issues. With any luck, they'll fix the server-side issues in the near future. It's hard not to be slightly more okay with the program as time passes.

bv310 · Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:51 pm

I think outdated is probably the most accurate for MTGO, but at least it's approaching outdated and functional.

bv310 · Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:32 pm

In post 5669, hasdgfas wrote:
In post 5668, Shanba wrote:Greg Hatch is something else

Yeah. I have no idea what that deck tech was, and I watched the whole thing. I'm still not sure I understand what the deck is doing.

Accurate to my feelings as well.

bv310 · Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:42 pm

Not yet, but I'll post the deck tech in here as soon as SCG puts it on youtube.

bv310 · Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:35 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQMmmZg ... 5ztKGrWT-g

bv310 · Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:24 am

In post 5694, Shanba wrote:Monastery mentor makes me excited

That one and the lifelink dude have me excited to keep playing Jeskai.

bv310 · Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:30 pm

Jenara, Asura of War is the only Tiny Leader Angel I can think of.

bv310 · Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:59 am

It's one of the times I'm incredibly happy I play on MTGO primarily.

bv310 · Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:07 am

Sudo, there are 2 different overlay tokens for Morph/Manifest. If they show up anything like the Morph tokens, you'll end up with dozens by the end of Dragons of Tarkir's draft cycle.

bv310 · Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:49 pm

Soulfire and the Monastery Mentor are both cards I'm keen to pick up/test in Tokens

bv310 · Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:46 am

I've had a lot of success drafting Sultai with evasion. Basically the only way I do well, tbh.

bv310 · Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:15 pm

Yep, it's still the creature dealing the damage, so Lifelink/Deathtouch and co. would still apply.

bv310 · Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:04 am

Nice! I'm stuck far, far away from a Prerelease, so I'm consoling myself by drafting Legacy Cube on MTGO.

bv310 · Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:17 pm

They both trigger at the same time, so you put one on the stack and then the other, then they both resolve. So you can either do +1x2 or x2+1

bv310 · Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:20 am

I just spent six months trading for Pod on PucaTrade. All of my Modern staples besides Pod stuff went out. I'm pretty much out of Magic in paper entirely now.

Now what?

bv310 · Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:55 am

I'm sorry Myko, but Netrunner is still thoroughly unappealing to me.

bv310 · Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:57 pm

Well I sold all the online stuff I had and bought Affinity, so that's nice and solidly Tier 1.

For paper, I think I'm going to start making some flavour of Goyf-less Zoo with Knight of the Reliquary. I have everything I'd need for the manabase, so it's just a matter of getting Wooded Foothills and Nacatls.

bv310 · Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:46 am

It comes back face-up, I believe. It's the same interaction with Astral Slide + Morphs

bv310 · Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:50 pm

I'm assuming he'll end up being Zurgo's ancient ancestor or some shit

bv310 · Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:40 am

Oh neat, M12. Someone's going to get a fucking Titan.

bv310 · Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:14 am

That's always the worst feeling.

bv310 · Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:41 am

Trying to attack from 12 angles, but doing it poorly, is significantly worse than attacking from one angle and doing it well.

For example, on Turn 1, you're given the option to play an Ornithopter or a Monastery Swiftspear from your deck. One gets in for 1 immediately, and gains value from every instant or sorcery you play. The other is an 0/2 that gets in for nothing until you either Shrapnel Blast it, or enchant it with a Bestow creature.

If you want to go the Shrapnel Blast route, I'd suggest something closer to this:

4 Ornithopter
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Renowned Weaponsmith
3 Scuttling Doom Engine

4 Lightning Strike
4 Shrapnel Blast
4 Ensoul Artifact
4 Ghostfire Blade
1 Heart-Piercer Bow
2 Hammer of Purphoros
2 Write Into Being
1 Dig Through Time

4 Darksteel Citadel
4 Shivan Reef
4 Temple of Epiphany
4 Mountain
6 Island
1 Mana Confluence

SB:
3 Stubborn Denial
3 Arc Lightning
2 Magma Spray
2 Anger of the Gods
2 Phyrexian Revoker
2 Negate
1 Chandra, Pyromaster

Note that I basically pulled this out of my ass, so it can likely be tuned significantly and be way better.

bv310 · Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:20 am

Depends on which promo it was

bv310 · Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:34 pm

@Hascow: *vomit*

Also, and I know I'm in a minority in this, but Modern actually feels okay right now. Playing a lot online, I'm seeing a ton of different decks in Dailies/Tourney Practice room. The unbanning of Golgari Grave-Troll didn't really fuck anything up, so hopefully they might be more willing to unban other stuff in the future. Abzan was obviously going to do well at this PT. It's a steady, consistent deck that most pros are able to pick up fairly quickly. There aren't any weird niche synergies in the list like Pod had, or any long drawn-out lines of play like Scapeshift. It's also just The Good Deck^TM, so it's an obvious choice in a basically untested metagame. If the results of GPs and Dailies still have Abzan as 30% of the meta in a month's time, then I'll join the doomsayers.

Hopefully, the DCI got the message from the hundreds of complaints about the Pod banning, and they'll be a bit more transparent about what is happening in the future. Right now, I think the best thing that can happen is for them to go a year without banning anything, but maybe unbanning some things to open up other strategies.

bv310 · Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:06 pm

#Hell yes. I'd love to try Thopter Foundry/Sword of the Meek in some kind of Tezzeret-based Artifact shell.

bv310 · Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:42 pm

In post 5795, Natirasha wrote:(Extended would not have the same secondary market problems)

(They're never going to bring back Extended)

bv310 · Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:15 pm

Because if they did, they'd be admitting that Modern was a mistake. By every metric, Modern is not a mistake. The PT Stream this weekend drew in like 25 000 viewers at one time. That's more than every other PT stream I've seen. Modern is still super popular, and the fact that a fairly cheap deck took 2nd at this PT is going to draw in a bunch of players.

bv310 · Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:04 pm

Absolutely not. No one played Extended.

bv310 · Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:50 pm

In post 5804, PJ. wrote:why are people selling serum visions for 6 bucks a piece?

Splinter Twin won the PT, and it plays 4. Also, the card hasn't seen printing in ages, so there's a lower supply.

@Nat, So? Everything I see from back then is that Extended was boring, whether they supported it or not. Just the same 3 or 4 decks that dominated Standard, but with a few sets of consistency for good measure. How is that better? Also, they won't cut a format that pulls in 25000 viewers on a Saturday evening. That's more than Standard. Saying that people "didn't look happy to be there" is a terrible argument from a business perspective. Until Modern tourneys stop pulling in numbers, the format's here to stay. I mean, the biggest GP of all time was Modern based (GP Vegas, the MMA one). That's not something that they're going to stop caring about because Tarmogoyfs are $200 a piece. If anything, they'll just reprint fucking Tarmogoyfs again.

I also thoroughly disagree that Bloom Titan and Twin are linear strategies, but I'm not debating a format with someone who has already said they hate it.

bv310 · Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:54 am

Spoiler:

Tons of great advice in this post, but I think Twin fits as more Combo-control than straight combo. The deck wins from tempo games as much as it does comboing out.

Personally, if I was trying to get into the format, Zoo is where I'd be looking. Something like this http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/264253#online is a pretty good starting point, especially if you have Windswept Heath/Wooded Foothills from Standard.

For me, I'd be looking at something like:

4 Wild Nacatl
3 Loam Lion
4 Kird Ape
4 Voice of Resurgence
3 Qasali Pridemage
4 Loxodon Smiter
4 Ghor-Clan Rampager

4 Lightning Bolt
3 Boros Charm
4 Lightning Helix
3 Path to Exile

4 Wooded Foothills
4 Windswept Heath
2 Arid Mesa
2 Copperline Gorge
2 Stomping Ground
2 Temple Garden
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Forest
1 Mountain
1 Plains

Sideboard:

3 Destructive Revelry
2 Stony Silence
2 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2 Blood Moon
1 Kor Firewalker
3 Vines of Vastwood
2 Hushwing Gryff

bv310 · Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:10 am

The Gerard Fabiano special of "Sultai cards I own" seems fairly well set against the WR Aggro list that seems to be everywhere.

bv310 · Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:42 pm

I'm a new convert to WU Heroic, so that's what I'd be running if I was within 500 miles of an LGS

bv310 · Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:41 pm

PVDDR isn't new to this. He's been a vocal critic of Modern since basically PT Philadelphia.

bv310 · Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:36 pm

I'll admit, I'm kind of bored of Modern atm, but that's more a symptom of the MTGO meta being a shitfuck of Abzan for the past 8 months. Pod v Abzan was fun, Affinity v Abzan is dull. The fact that my matches went from being Delver/Abzan/other things to Abzan/other things is annoying as balls.

bv310 · Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:12 pm

Honestly, I really think the new release schedule will do a lot for Modern. Less shitty third-block mechanics means more playable cards in the mechanics that we get.

bv310 · Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:36 pm

In post 5853, PJ. wrote:Is abzan the clear best deck?

Is playing Online worth the money it cost? I don't really have time to try to chase PTQs and stuff and a lot of FNM type stuff runs later than my bed time on my work nights so I'm not sure if paper magic wouldn't really be even close to worth it(and I work weekends so major events are basically out of the question) but I've had the itch to play. Is there enough prize support online to make my time worth it? How are the Legacy and Modern scenes online?

Abzan has the least bad matchups in the format.

For me, I made the transition to MTGO in September when I took my new job. I started teaching up in the middle of nowhere (800km north of the nearest LGS). I find that having the ability to jam Standard/Modern stuff at any time is really nice. Legacy is especially popular online because of the considerably lower cost of entry. Force of Will/Daze are stupidly expensive, but manabases are dirt cheap. Vintage Masters had the dual lands in it, so Tropical Islands are like $15 each. KTK fetchlands are no more than $5 each, so you can get a whole Miracles manabase for cheap. ANT, for example, costs about $450 for the entire deck online, compared to $2K in paper. Modern is also really popular because of lower cost. Goyfs suck, but everything else is about half the cost of paper. If you can consistently go 3-1 or 4-0 in Dailies, you can freeroll yourself for a long time.

For both formats, the online meta is a bit more volatile than Paper. If something unexpected does well on Sunday in an SCG Open, expect to see it everywhere by Monday evening. It really rewards consistency in play.

bv310 · Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:27 am

If you can find them, there's a bunch of really really strong mono-black cards in Pauper. I used to run this: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pa ... 164#online

Assuming they're letting you use Hymn to Tourach (which you should ask ahead of time), it would replace Wrench Mind and Liliana's Specter in that list.

bv310 · Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:31 am

I read the decklist, but you really need to confirm that Hymn to Tourach is allowed. If this is a group of people who only play Pauper online, they likely won't realize that Hymn is printed as a common in Paper. It's only ever printed as an uncommon online, so it isn't legal in Pauper online. You might not be allowed to run it at all.

bv310 · Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:30 am

You should look into a few copies of Oubliette or something to deal with Affinity, because I guarantee someone is going to be packing it.

bv310 · Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:31 pm

I like how Emrakul is just sort of meandering by in the background.

bv310 · Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:39 am

I'm really interested to see what the new Dromoka and Ojutai look like

bv310 · Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:43 pm

I think the Sarkhan is important for story reasons, so I can give them a pass on printing a second one so soon. I also really enjoy Sarkhan as a character.

bv310 · Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:36 am

In post 5883, diginova wrote:Megamorph reminds me of those cheesy Animorphs books I read as a kid, and I don't really see the point to it... Why is it important enough to keyword?

Because they really really wanted to have three different Morph mechanics, but they didn't bother to think about whether the third one would be interesting or not.

bv310 · Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:51 am

I posted this on Reddit right after GP Memphis, and it got a fair bit of discussion. Probably worth a read-over if you're interested. http://www.reddit.com/r/spikes/comments ... mans_list/

bv310 · Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:26 am

Welp, PAX Panel was a massive dose of Hype. New Sarkhan is rad, Double-Faced Planeswalkers in Origins, and BATTLE FOR ZENDIKAR AS THE FALL SET. FETCHLAND HYPE

bv310 · Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:04 pm

Dude, nice! I'm still struggling through learning Affinity. The deck's a ton of fun, but there's way too many little mistakes that fuck you up if you don't avoid them.

bv310 · Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:59 pm

Bringing in Vault is good, Drown in Sorrow buys you some time.

bv310 · Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:34 am

Hex Depths can be done for about $500. I also would recommend PucaTrade once you pick a deck. Every card you get on there is another card you don't have to pay for.

http://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/le ... 395#online

bv310 · Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:47 pm

In post 5913, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:7-2, made day two

Nice! What was your pool like?

bv310 · Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:56 pm

Yeah, that's a pretty bonkers pool. Good luck tomorrow, I'll watch for you on coverage!

bv310 · Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:16 am

Just remember the Judge's Code: Smack people who are being shitheads (the exact definition of which is up to you)

bv310 · Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:02 am

Passed my Rules Advisor test! Planning to upgrade to Level 1 Judge as soon as I'm living somewhere where organized play actually happens.

bv310 · Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:04 am

Hooray for timestamps!

bv310 · Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:53 am

My gut says no, because Polymorphous Rush doesn't change what the creature was cast as, but I'm honestly not sure.

bv310 · Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:59 am

But the Delve ability was not "Soulflayer's Delve ability", so does it still matter?

bv310 · Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:27 am

In post 5937, hasdgfas wrote:
In post 5936, bv310 wrote:But the Delve ability was not "Soulflayer's Delve ability", so does it still matter?

Spoiler: Answer inside
So my judge mentor, a friend of mine, and I all initially thought that it was "no" because it's a different instance of Delve than it was cast with. But apparently the answer is that it
does
get the abilities of anything delved with it because, and I quote, "Soulflayer".

I've been trying to figure this out with rules explanation, and as best as I can figure out: Hooting Mandrillsflayer is a Souflayer here because a card's name on a card refers to "this card", so it sees that it was cast with Delve, and those count towards Hooting Mandrillsflayer's new second ability.

Basically, Soulflayer is super weird(also see: confusion over Soulflayer/Torrent Elemental right when Fate Reforged came out). It has been called a "stupid, made-up card"

Huh, that's really interesting. I'm also going to throw this at a judge friend of mine tonight to see how he reacts.

bv310 · Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:21 am

In post 5944, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 5925, bv310 wrote:Passed my Rules Advisor test! Planning to upgrade to Level 1 Judge as soon as I'm living somewhere where organized play actually happens.

Does a Siege Rhino with lifelink give it's controller 6 life when it enters the battlefield against a single opponent?

Nope, life loss is not damage, so lifelink doesn't matter.

Also, Shanba, the reason that the Dragons went crazy is because Ugin is in his cocoon the whole time. The story implied that things were balanced while he was both alive and conscious. Also, the Eldrazi aren't killable, according to the story that introduced Nahiri.

bv310 · Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:22 am

Solve which? The copy thing? If you don't believe the rest of us, load up MTGO and try it in a solitaire game, or go http://chat.magicjudges.org/mtgrules/ and ask the judges in JudgeChat.

bv310 · Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:39 am

In post 5966, sthar8 wrote:
In post 5962, bv310 wrote:Solve which? The copy thing? If you don't believe the rest of us, load up MTGO and try it in a solitaire game, or go http://chat.magicjudges.org/mtgrules/ and ask the judges in JudgeChat.

I don't know if it's gotten better but I can tell you as a judge that I absolutely hate it when someone says 'it works that way online.'

I hate it too, but this case is one where he can easily prove or disprove his own belief by checking in the client, instead of arguing with us. Also, depending on how recently you were on MTGO, it actually has gotten a lot better (mostly in the past year. They've done dick-all about actually making the client look nicer, but they've fixed a buttload of backend issues and made it function way more consistently.

bv310 · Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:57 am

Bonfire of the Damned, Blasphemous Act, Black Sun's Zenith, Plague Wind, In Garruk's Wake, and Comet Storm are the ones that come to mind right away.

bv310 · Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:58 pm

Is the swallow African, European, or Innistradian?