Mini 1626: Duck Tales Mafia (Game Over)

[DOMO]

Well done for being obvtown already.

[mastin2]

@pine: hi pine. How are you.
Could you please explain your scum reads. There is more then just shiny in this game and I know you are better then this.

Yes. And this is a warning sign of...yep. Him being scum.

[Total Wreck]

We have no idea what is happening, but based on the last 6 posts, we assume that this is scum v scum.

Wisdom, is that you?

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Well done for being obvtown already.

This. Finally my paranoia about Aronis is gone.

Now if only you could sheep me on Pine, Bert

R~

[mastin2]

Farside is a bit all over the map, but there's a logical progression to her reads and she looks like she's thinking. I'd call that Town, but she's also one of the most impressive scum players I've had the pleasure of working with. She's null-Town, but only just.
Aronis is clearly confused and frustrated, and has been having a hard time gaining momentum. The constant assault by annoying players probably fueled the replace out

For the record, these are good. Good reads, good reasoning.

Double slap seems like scum to me. I just played a game with Marquis where his Towngame was big and flamboyant, with gambits and bold plays. Here, I'm seeing a lot of hedging and subtle moves. He's trying to be sneaky and casual, and is slipping under the radar quite well. His reads are also poorly explained and look manufactured. There's also some cognitive dissonance - for example, he votes Mastin, then not long after goes in another direction and claims he never scum read Mastin. What? No. Scum.
Bulbazak generally looks Townish, with some logical progression and sensible sequencing of reads. At no point have I ever understood the case on Bulba, and haven't seen a good explanation of it. Leaning town

These, not so much.

Paschendale is all over the map. At times, he looks reasonable and like he's thinking his way through things, at other times it looks like he's sabotaging what little productivity the game has managed outside of the SH-TW-Mastin machine. This most recent thing I called him on, for example. Limiting us to two wagons just doesn't seem Town motivated. It forces me to wonder whether they're both Town, and Pasche is going for a win-win false dichotomy. Leaning scum
DOMO, however, is the the star scumbag.
Done? No? Go do it. It's full of shitty flips, unexplained reasoning, and sleazy voting. Most of all, however, it is characterized by

opportunism

. I can't emphasize enough how scummy that is. He jumps onto any wagon that's moving, because he doesn't care who it is that gets sent up. The only exception, however, is Paschendale. He only goes onto the easiest wagon of the day once, and then he immediately advocates its counter wagon. There's a good period when he's actually talking up a Wreck wagon with his vote on Pasche. Then the smoke clears, he feels he can move his vote without being too obvious, and jumps onto one of the Towniest players in the game

And these could go either way.

[DOMO]

When someone has to bold the word opportunism, they're being opportunistic. Do the maths.

[mastin2]

We have no idea what is happening, but based on the last 6 posts, we assume that this is scum v scum.

And, yeah, it's good to get lingering doubt removed like this. Aronislotown.

[Shiny Hydreigon]

yeah domo it was already known Pine uses buzzwords to push things

example:

Cognitive dissonance

R~

[Doubleslap]

Seo and I might replace out too this day 1 is ridiculously annoying boring unproductive etc

[Pine]

So in other words, you disagree with one Townread and one scumread

Mastin, pull your head out of your ass. I'm finally engaging, and you aren't engaging back

PE: First of all, you can't be opportunistic when there's no opportunity. There were zero votes on DOMO at the time. Second, buzzwords are only bad when they're used by themselves and not explained. I devoted an entire paragraph to that. DOMO is pretty clearly deflecting back here - every time he's attacked me, it has been after I levied suspicion against him, and then he conveniently forgets about me until next time it comes up. That's not Town chasing down a belief, that's scum discrediting a detractor

[Shiny Hydreigon]

Seo and I might replace out too this day 1 is ridiculously annoying boring unproductive etc

So help us lynch pine so it can end

R~

[DOMO]

PE: First of all, you can't be opportunistic when there's no opportunity. There were zero votes on DOMO at the time. Second, buzzwords are only bad when they're used by themselves and not explained. I devoted an entire paragraph to that. DOMO is pretty clearly deflecting back here - every time he's attacked me, it has been after I levied suspicion against him, and then he conveniently forgets about me until next time it comes up. That's not Town chasing down a belief, that's scum discrediting a detractor

Just because you're starting a new wagon, doesn't mean it can't be opportunistic. If you're scum, then it's handy that you have what can be perceived as a legitimate reason to put your vote on someone who isn't getting lynched, either so you can make a late switch to influence the lynch, or perhaps sit back and keep it on me while avoiding the mislynch wagon. Your vote on me feels to me like you're moving pawns around.

I don't even know if my attacks at you have come after you swing for me. It wouldn't surprise me. I get reads out of the way people attack me. Notice that I was extremely quick to town a slot that I thought was scummy, based entirely off one sentence, pointing the finger at me. Therefore, your assertion that I'm trying to discredit a detractor lacks merit.

[farside22]

Why don't you tell me why you're Town, instead

I'm not trying to prove anything to you. You already know I'm town. I'm curious to see what farside thinks about what you said. She didn't mention it, even though she's posted. I would imagine farside can read me better than anyone else here. And likewise, I feel like I'm well positioned to get some kind of sincerity read off her.

So if you'll excuse me, I'm trying to figure out if farside is your buddy.

Your going to have to explain where this comment came from and why since you've never said anything about me prior before I explain shit

[farside22]

Actually scratch the above I'm not explaining reads at all.
Per shiny no had to do shit.

[farside22]

Oh and I'm just read the case by pine.
Won't be voting Domo or pine

[Doubleslap]

it could work

VOTE: Pine

[KittyCupCake]

Kitty please vote pine

Maybe. -I'm not against this.

It's full of shitty flips, unexplained reasoning, and sleazy voting. Most of all, however, it is characterized by

opportunism

.

I actually like Domo

more

after going through the iso. Would you mind quoting an example or two of each of these four things you're seeing.

[Perpetual Nonsense]

Greetings!

Are Pine, Total Wreck, KittyCupcake or DoubleSlap hydras?

Know Shiny.

[KittyCupCake]

Greetings!

Are Pine, Total Wreck, KittyCupcake or DoubleSlap hydras?

Know Shiny.

Salutations!

TW is technically, but I think only one head (house) is playing.
Double slap is marquis and someone else.
I don't believe pine is.
And while I might occasionally

play

like a hydra, I am not. -I'm just an experienced player from magical faraway lands.

[Not_Mafia]

Prodge

[ArcAngel9]

Vote Count 1.15

Shiny Hydreigon

- , Perpetual Nonsense

DOMO

-, Pine

KittyCupCake

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Total Wreck

- Not_Mafia,

farside22

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Not_Mafia

- GuyInFreezer, farside22, KittyCupCake

Paschendale

- ,

mastin2

- , Paschendale, , Bulbazak

Pine

- mastin2, Shiny Hydreigon, DOMO, Doubleslap

Bulbazak

- Total Wreck

Perpetual Nonsense

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Doubleslap

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[DOMO]

Your going to have to explain where this comment came from and why since you've never said anything about me prior before I explain shit

I said I was starting to get nervous. Now that nervousness has evolved into paranoia. You're not your usual self here farside. Admittedly neither am I, but that doesn't mean I'm going to ignore my concerns about you. It's take you a long time to show the argumentative side of you, and when it emerged, it felt forced. What's more, when pine is taking a shot at me, you ignore it, depsite you being best positioned to read me. I know I'm a million miles away from my scum game. You're the only person I'd expect to really realise that. But you either haven't realised it, or you already know I'm town, and thus haven't been trying to figure me out.

[Total Wreck]

VOTE: TotalWreck

0 effort, House has his demeanor and it's not alignment indicative but he hasn't even attempted to do anything so far

So, that has to be the most ironic vote in the entire game.

If effort is alignment indicative, as NM seems to believe...

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[KittyCupCake]

Spoiler: New Theme Song

*music starts*
Scumhunting's such an ass pain, here in, Duck Tales.
Ignoring, screaming, read-feigns, they're all duck-fails.
Can't solve the mystery
Longer than history!

Duck Tales! Oh-no!
Endless day's the price we pay for
Duck Tales! Oh-no!
Tales of do nothing, bad and worse luck tales!
...

Sc-sc-sc-scummy are the townies.
All the cases receive frownies.
What to do?
Just trudge on through some

Duck Tales! Oh-no!
This whole day we keep on chasing
Our Tales! Oh-no!
Tales of do nothing, don't give a
Fuck Tales! Oh-no!

Not poké-tails or lynching tails, no,
Duck Tales! Oh-no!

VOTE: Pine

[Not_Mafia]

House

That's the first 10 pages, will be Saturday before I can continue acting up,