Mini 1625: Redemption (Game Over)

[GGG]

Also recruitment is non normal

[Naomi-Tan]

Im not the FIRST to Theorize it :I

[Whomping Willow]

Beginning to think DGB's Mafia Watcher theory was legit

[droog]

we almost have to start scumhunting all over again
VOTE: ochris for now

on the grounds of whatever case i had before awa came in

[Naomi-Tan]

Beginning to think DGB's Mafia Watcher theory was legit

what?

[TellTaleHeart]

Would a mafia faction without a factional night kill still be considered normal?

[droog]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game nothing against it from what i can see

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... e_Republic no clue on whether an open setup like this is also a normal setup

[Naomi-Tan]

Thanks droog, so what we can take from this, is the last mafia faction don't have a killing role, and we will just have to find them in the day phases.

[Whomping Willow]

Pretty sure Tierce said that having no NK was a non-normal mechanic in one of Reinoe's many troll threads, I can fish it out if someone really wants me to

[Whomping Willow]

But why are we making that assumption over Doctor, gabit, inacitivty etc etc

[droog]

gabit?
(agree with willow otherwise)

[GGG]

Thanks droog, so what we can take from this, is the last mafia faction don't have a killing role, and we will just have to find them in the day phases.

That's what you draw from this?

It seems jailkeeper or successful doctor and 1 faction is much more probable then 1 faction with a night kill and a gunsmith to find the other faction and the other crippled. Another option is scum choosing not to kill someone so we hit mylo instead of Lylo. (Haven't checked the math on it).

Naiomi you have quit scum hunting today and are just doing set up spec. It looks scummy.

[Naomi-Tan]

Thanks droog, so what we can take from this, is the last mafia faction don't have a killing role, and we will just have to find them in the day phases.

That's what you draw from this?

It seems jailkeeper or successful doctor and 1 faction is much more probable then 1 faction with a night kill and a gunsmith to find the other faction and the other crippled. Another option is scum choosing not to kill someone so we hit mylo instead of Lylo. (Haven't checked the math on it).

Naiomi you have quit scum hunting today and are just doing set up spec. It looks scummy.

Mechanics which are explicitly Non-Normal include:
Those affecting a role's alignment (no Cults).

So the second mafia Team isn't a recruitment.

So that rules out recruitment. so everyone's alignment is as it was in the start. Then you have to think on the number of players, assuming 2 scum, 2 mafia that leaves 9 town, if there was two killing roles in those anti-town factions you'd be stuck with town LYLO on day 2 (assuming they miss lynched) which would be rather imbalanced. Infact it would be awkward as heck. and you can say; what about doctor or JK, but we havn't seen either of those people comeup and weather or not they did anything is just as valid as my theory that the team had no kill. but Im going with no kill due to (Theoretically) stopping the kill twice in a row, is unlikely, and if there was a doc, I would assumed they would of saved the person I watched :I

[droog]

But we did have a watcher

[Naomi-Tan]

But we did have a watcher

I said yesterday that I was a one shot watcher, its why goob is dead...

[GGG]

Why are you completely discounting only having one faction?
Why aren't you hunting for the second faction you believe to exist.

[Naomi-Tan]

Why are you completely discounting only having one faction?
Why aren't you hunting for the second faction you believe to exist.

Why are you attacking me if you believe there IS only one faction? Considering I just lynched someone with a role claim? If you have a problem with how lost I am you can say so :I

[droog]

that looks town v town to me

[GGG]

Why are you completely discounting only having one faction?
Why aren't you hunting for the second faction you believe to exist.

Why are you attacking me if you believe there IS only one faction? Considering I just lynched someone with a role claim? If you have a problem with how lost I am you can say so :I

I don't know anything, you appear like you do know something. The only way you can know there are two factions is if you belong to the other faction. Otherwise you should be in the dark like the rest of us. The problem is that if you belong to the other factions it would be in your best interest to push 1 faction. So that leads me back to you being town.

The above is my problem. I believe you are town but everything you are saying today screams that you know something the town doesn't.

[Naomi-Tan]

but its just POE, I know nothing for certain other than team 2 has no recruitment roles, the last wolf said he was the last of his team and that makes me think its two teams one without kills :I

[crazypianist1116]

So that rules out recruitment. so everyone's alignment is as it was in the start. Then you have to think on the number of players, assuming 2 scum, 2 mafia that leaves 9 town, if there was two killing roles in those anti-town factions you'd be stuck with town LYLO on day 2 (assuming they miss lynched) which would be rather imbalanced. Infact it would be awkward as heck. and you can say; what about doctor or JK, but we havn't seen either of those people comeup and weather or not they did anything is just as valid as my theory that the team had no kill. but Im going with no kill due to (Theoretically) stopping the kill twice in a row, is unlikely, and if there was a doc, I would assumed they would of saved the person I watched :I

Naomi are you fishing? Also 6-2-2 is not lylo. 2 scum factions isn't terribly unbalanced. You're forgetting the fact that each scum faction still has to kill the other to win.

Mafia watcher does seem possible..

[crazypianist1116]

If you do not submit an action before the day ends, it will count as

No Action

.

This points strongly to oc.

VOTE: Originalchris

[Naomi-Tan]

So that rules out recruitment. so everyone's alignment is as it was in the start. Then you have to think on the number of players, assuming 2 scum, 2 mafia that leaves 9 town, if there was two killing roles in those anti-town factions you'd be stuck with town LYLO on day 2 (assuming they miss lynched) which would be rather imbalanced. Infact it would be awkward as heck. and you can say; what about doctor or JK, but we havn't seen either of those people comeup and weather or not they did anything is just as valid as my theory that the team had no kill. but Im going with no kill due to (Theoretically) stopping the kill twice in a row, is unlikely, and if there was a doc, I would assumed they would of saved the person I watched :I

Naomi are you fishing? Also 6-2-2 is not lylo. 2 scum factions isn't terribly unbalanced. You're forgetting the fact that each scum faction still has to kill the other to win.

Mafia watcher does seem possible..

6-2-2 with 2 night kills and a miss lynch would make 3-2-2, with 2 kill roles, there would be no way for town to win right?

[crazypianist1116]

You're forgetting the fact that each scum faction still has to kill each other.

[crazypianist1116]

And you're not scum hunting.