Open 582: Stackin' the Deck/Hipster Mafia (Over)

Mathdino · Post Post #75 (ISO) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:03 pm

In post 74, wgeurts wrote:Anyway, can any of you actually argue that howl was not RV'ing? As if you can't the whole case on him falls flat and so does a large part of the one on me. I'm being called scum because I opposed the general oppinion and I thought scum joined a wagon.

Assume Howl wasn't random voting.

Please give your thoughts on him and his wagon.

Howl · Post Post #76 (ISO) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:19 pm

In post 74, wgeurts wrote:Anyway, can any of you actually argue that howl was not RV'ing? As if you can't the whole case on him falls flat and so does a large part of the one on me. I'm being called scum because I opposed the general oppinion and I thought scum joined a wagon.

Actually it really doesn't.

Putting people to L-1 very early with a flash wagon is a thing that happens all the time. I knew I was making a weird RV. But that;s the entire point of RVS.

The fact that you were very defensive on my behalf is very unnerving because the only two reasons to do that it to try and bring heat of a scum partner, which is potentially an option if it weren't for my green PM and that there wasn't really much pressure in the first place. The second option is that you are scum hoping to white knight and get the free towncred after I flip which is just naive because I wasn't getting lynched anytime soon unless something very unusual happened.

Unvote, Vote: wgeurts

Mathdino · Post Post #77 (ISO) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:32 pm

What do you make of your wagon, Howl?

Howl · Post Post #78 (ISO) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:37 pm

First followale semi real vote will pretty much always (readas:should) get a flash wagon. I think trying to determine if scum are on or off or mixed isn't going to get anywhere.

Mathdino · Post Post #79 (ISO) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:51 pm

You an alt?

ISO · Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:52 pm

Why the fuck is it now scummy to have your own oppinion and voice it?
Assuming howl's vote isnt RVS then I'd still be suspicious of the three I mentioned before. I really believe at least slipped on the wagon. Howl seem to be using others reasoning so I'll meta him to get an idea of his play. He's goon so he's noob or some alt.

Howl · Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:53 pm

In post 79, Mathdino wrote:You an alt?

No, but I have played extensively elsewhere.

ISO · Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:55 pm

In post 81, Howl wrote:
In post 79, Mathdino wrote:You an alt?

No, but I have played extensively elsewhere.

Provide links.

Bicephalous Bob · Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:22 pm

Most of the case on geurts is pretty bad but

Mathdino misinterprets a post because he's a robot as he's playing as he usually does, this type of mistake has been seen by me before.

how did math interpret that post according to you?

Howl · Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:27 pm

In post 82, wgeurts wrote:
In post 81, Howl wrote:
In post 79, Mathdino wrote:You an alt?

No, but I have played extensively elsewhere.

Provide links.

New site, fresh slate. Not happening.

ISO · Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:48 pm

Has howl played a newbie?
@Bob
He took the non-serious logic seriously.

Howl · Post Post #86 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:07 am

In one as we speak.

2birds1stone · Post Post #87 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:10 am

As much as I like to pretend that freaking out about RVS wagons on other people is scummy for the sake of moving the game along: it isn't, especially when those freak-outs come from newer players.

Howl reads null-town for response to wagon.

In post 55, Alchemist21 wrote:Although I would suggest taking any criticisms with a healthy grain of salt. Scum would love to manipulate someone who's trying out an unfamiliar approach.

This seems odd to me? It's obviously not coaching (Math is town), but I would've said it was coaching were Math not IC. I'm not sure if this is the only reason for which it gut-pings, but it definitely pings my gut.

In post 45, Alchemist21 wrote:I sense we will be moving out from RVS soon. Time to check my weapons and ammo.

This isn't townposting.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Alchemist21

Riddleton · Post Post #88 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:25 am

In post 83, Bicephalous Bob wrote:Most of the case on geurts is pretty bad

Why?

Riddleton · Post Post #89 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:33 am

2birds

, I agree that the tone Alchemist's 45 seems a bit distant and unengaged but I'm not 100% sold it's scummy. I don't see any problems with 55

Bicephalous Bob · Post Post #90 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:41 am

In post 88, Riddleton wrote:
In post 83, Bicephalous Bob wrote:Most of the case on geurts is pretty bad

Why?

Humans don't work that way

Mathdino · Post Post #91 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:48 am

In post 87, 2birds1stone wrote:
In post 45, Alchemist21 wrote:I sense we will be moving out from RVS soon. Time to check my weapons and ammo.
This isn't townposting.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Alchemist21

Why is it scumposting?

ISO · Post Post #92 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:55 am

Riddleton, point "a" is me answering to dino saying it's an RV as he asked about it. I also defend someone who's at L-2 which I saw absolutely no case on, I made a point of it which is not scum. As town I don't have to agree with everything you lot spout, I also never said he is town, I said his wagon is bad as it stood then. Point b is also crap, I'm not defending him but due to how easy people got on the wagon I took it as howl being possible town getting quick wagoned. Therefore I look to see who that could possibly be, we don't have much other evidence to go off at the moment. C is just not even a scum tell.

ISO · Post Post #93 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:56 am

I love phoneposting.

Anatole Kuragin · Post Post #94 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:19 am

Vote Count 1.3

Bicephalous Bob (1): texcat
Howl (4): Droog, Bicephalous Bob, Albert B. Rampage, Alchemist21
2birds1stone (1): wgeurts
Wgeurts (3): Riddleton, mathdino, Howl
Alchemist21 (1): 2birds1stone

Not voting (2): randomidget, theslimer3,

Now with a deadline!

Deadline: (expired on 2014-12-24 14:55:00)

ISO · Post Post #95 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:33 am

In post 76, Howl wrote:
In post 74, wgeurts wrote:Anyway, can any of you actually argue that howl was not RV'ing? As if you can't the whole case on him falls flat and so does a large part of the one on me. I'm being called scum because I opposed the general oppinion and I thought scum joined a wagon.

Actually it really doesn't.

Putting people to L-1 very early with a flash wagon is a thing that happens all the time. I knew I was making a weird RV. But that;s the entire point of RVS.

The fact that you were very defensive on my behalf is very unnerving because the only two reasons to do that it to try and bring heat of a scum partner, which is potentially an option if it weren't for my green PM and that there wasn't really much pressure in the first place. The second option is that you are scum hoping to white knight and get the free towncred after I flip which is just naive because I wasn't getting lynched anytime soon unless something very unusual happened.

Unvote, Vote: wgeurts

You forgot:

I'm town defending you as I belive the town is mistaken and I think you're town.
I'm town and I'm defending you because the case on you is crap so I don't want to mis-lynch potentially.
I'm town and I think that scum are on your wagon assuming you're town.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #96 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:31 am

Unvote, vote wgeurts

droog · Post Post #97 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:58 am

chiming in before appointment
dont like wgeutrs wagon
riddleton hasnt sold me he's town

really really disliked howl's wgeurts wagon hopping
did rvs come through for me?

ISO · Post Post #98 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:00 am

In post 96, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Unvote, vote wgeurts

Give reasons, this is you second naked wagon hop. You now look worse the 2Birds
VOTE: ABR

texcat · Post Post #99 (ISO) » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:13 am

In post 61, Riddleton wrote:If wgeurts flips scum, it's highly likely Howl will be scum as well.

I have never played with town-wgeurts, but he's looking a lot like scum-wgeurts. I didn't mind him trying to analyze the Howl wagon. Though saying "this vote looks bad" might not be considered actual analysis. His flailing over-defensiveness after a few votes is what looks like scum-wgeurts to me.

From my very limited experience with wgeurts, I would definitely disgree with Riddleton about what a scum flip would mean for Howl's alignment.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: wgeurts