Capcom Crossover Chaos - GAME OVER~

[mental somnic]

VOTE: skitty This claim is a scum claim, I am not impress.

also this is literally all tiph had to say about skitty in terms of reasoning for a vote

[mental somnic]

if a skitty lynch goes ahead today can we vig dram/tiph and lynch the other tomorrow
or switch in ggg with one of them instead

[The Will of Heaven]

i dont mind any of those dying

also good point about pie, he should be really be obvtown by now yet he's not posting

[mental somnic]

what has changed
i thought we always disagreed about reads
have i become better?
or just more passive

[Southern Belles]

WHY YOU NEVER ASKE ME TO TALK MOLLIE??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????//]

YOU TOTALLY IGNORED ME MOLLIE!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! OMG

DID YOU NOT SEE MY NAME IN THE PLAYERLIST

I AM HERE FOR YOU METAL!!!!1!

NO WAY NO HOW AM I LETTING YOU GUYZ GET LYNCHED IN THIS GAME!

heavens is town. can we try to work with them? I think arc is town.

bulba has gone mia and i am wondering why.

I am not sure about td. he is throwing around "these people are scumclaiming ARRRRGGGHH" and idgi.

[mental somnic]

mollie what do you think about tiph's complete lack of solid reason for thinking skitty is scum and parking a vote on the wagon earlier in the day
and what do you think about the fact that tiph is drawing associative tells to an unflipped slot who he never had given much reason to suspect to begin with

also yes i fully agree with trying to work with heavens for now

(om posing as ms)

[Southern Belles]

@ brian

I think I already said where tammy was? v/la? we are town (and being pretty obvious about it) but I wonder has your hydra partner even posted yet? if not then then why are are you screaming for tammy?

[Southern Belles]

mollie what do you think about tiph's complete lack of solid reason for thinking skitty is scum and parking a vote on the wagon earlier in the day
and what do you think about the fact that tiph is drawing associative tells to an unflipped slot who he never had given much reason to suspect to begin with

also yes i fully agree with trying to work with heavens for now

(om posing as ms)

I am not happy with it!

it isn't that he is that he is drawing associative tells it is the reasons he is giving for voting skitty. like I don't get the feeling that he thinks skitty is grpscum but when pressed that is a bit of his angle. it doesn't make sense to me. cos the only reason to vote for skitty at this point is if you think skitty is grpscum.

[mental somnic]

well idk
i think the fact that he hasnt given reason to truly suspect skitty as grpscum and then he goes and says arc is bussing skitty is just really bad
i understand what you mean when u say you dont get the feeling he thinks skitty is grpscum, i feel a major lack of conviction behind a faked confidence in reads in all of tiphs posts

[mental somnic]

also cn u put a vote down pls

[ZZZX]

VLA for 2 days while i take my finals. This should be the lst one!

[The Goat]

What...in...the..actual...

33 pages.

Okay...got some reading to do, unless someone has Cliff's Notes...

[mental somnic]

Goat... as usual~

[mental somnic]

the people of interest right now seem to be skitty/tiphane/dramonic/ggg/arcangel
and maybe a few others but those seem to be the main ones, so iso them i guess to get a better grasp on whats happening at the moment

[mental somnic]

hello om

[mental somnic]

hey soincy

do u want to discuss anything privately or not

[mental somnic]

you know what to do bby

[Johou Tougou Shinen-Tai]

O hi. I don't post much on the weekends, as many of you prob already know, but I'm keeping up. Our reads are mostly aligned, and I'll mostly omit those where pie and I don't entirely agree.

reads post:

We generally think that ooba, bulb, shos, zxxxzx, and sonic are probably town. We're reasonably confident Wischo is also non-mafia.

I personally think droog is town here (pie has a null opinion) and dram as well.

Many of those reads are coming from interactions with our scumreads, an early one of which was GGG. I had pegged him as high probability scum fairly early on, to which pie agreed, but I didn't want to pursue it prior to dealing with the anti-town claims (which I'll discuss in the next post). We also find bro and adorkable are highly suspect.

We haven't synced on the rest of the playerlist.

-kagami

[mental somnic]

cn u walk me through the dram townread and bro and adorkable scumreads?

[Johou Tougou Shinen-Tai]

Ok, now for the survivors and the goo.

Firstly, any suggestion of leaving the goo alive is both stupid and highly suspect. The probability of a busdriver or redirector is very high in this game. Suggesting he be dayvigged is obviously correct and thankfully that's what happened.

Alright, Survivors. Survivors need to die, and soon. If they're day X survivors (i.e. the not-so-terrible version), they can live, but neither has claimed that. It doesn't matter how congenial or "useful" a survivor is, a survivor reduces the number of lynches the town has by one, just like an additional scum player would. They have no role that is useful to town, and "saving them for later" is stupid. Later is when we're most likely to have identified scum; day 1 is when we're least likely to have done so accurately. Lynching the survivor claim removes an anti-town role without potentially revealing and/or losing power with a mislynch, and is a very reasonable play. Vigging the survivor is a fine alternative, but having the vig's shot set like that means we have to worry about bus drivers or even a scum doc.

Ok, so is skitty a survivor? Nacho says no, basically because ns hates scum (which is true), and he would do anything to get a free shot at coasting. I would be more convinced about this if it were ns solo, but to my knowledge caled doesn't have the same distaste for scum. Ns could always just ask for caled to take the reigns for him. Anyway, it doesn't really matter so much, since this slot is the optimal lynch anyway. It is definitely suspect that kise would put two of a terrible role in the game.

I considered the possibility that ns is a survivor and MM is a lyncher, but that can't be the case since MM apparently correctly guessed ns's unusual win-con. MM pretty much has to be as he's claimed.

[Johou Tougou Shinen-Tai]

cn u walk me through the dram townread and bro and adorkable scumreads?

in a sec, let me thought-dump first.

[mental somnic]

Yayyyyy kagami the nerd is here!!!

[Johou Tougou Shinen-Tai]

Ok, a bit of setup stuff. Given this is a bastard game, I don't want to harp on it too much, but I think the survivor win-con is worth thinking about.

Why would they only win with mafia or town (and not the cult, which we know to potentially have existed).

I think the wording is deliberately chosen to exclude other factions. I.e. it's not just that this is mafia v. town and kise just wrote it that way without thinking about the implications to setup-spec.

One possibility is that they're intended not to win with an SK, but that seems like a really silly thing, since SKs already have a hard enough time winning.

I think the most likely possibilities are:

1) A real cult, probably with a limited recruiter
2) No mafia, werewolves instead.

In the latter case, the survivors are nerfed town and don't know it yet. I'm not sure how likely that is, but it is giving me second thoughts about the skitty lynch.

[Johou Tougou Shinen-Tai]

And if it's not obvious, I'm sort of suspicious of wischo as cult given their interactions with UT, but I'd need actual evidence of a cult for that since otherwise he seems non-scum. Pie is indifferent to that opinion.

[shos]

Getting scumvibes from jagami. He was precuaely like that when he won as sxum in inuyasha.