Once Upon A Winter Night - [Game Over]

[Tammy]

That's fine. I'm not always right. I am potentially wrong. But what you basically said is that you think of me as a better player than to look at mod flavor and you're cringing over it when the mod said flavor would be important. I could be wrong on what aspects of the flavor is important, but I really don't think it's horrible of me to be looking at everything and taking everything into account.

[Tammy]

I wasn't fond of how the curiouskarmadog wagon was progressing before, but right now I'm not very fond of some of curiouskarmadog's behavior, either. Decisions, decisions. What's bothering me are the number of people just sheeping Albert B. Rampage. I can sort of see how that can be happening, but it still feels sketchy just reading the posts jumping on. On the other hand, curiouskarmadog on this page has been demanding some weird explanations of people. Vague feelings yay. I promised that I'd read back and I should do that.

Tammy, forgive me if you talked about this already and just point out where you did, but how did curiouskarmadog feel to you in the game that you read?

I'm with Tammy that discussing beastcharizard is becoming increasingly urgent, especially because there seems to be a very apparent lack of interest in that department from the people who should be talking about it.

So, yes, none of you chuckleheads should be lynching before

both

beastcharizard and Marquis come to this thread.

I didn't read the whole game as I started reading it after I thought he could be innocent due to the mod flavor thing and I fell asleep. He was a replacement in that game, so I didn't get to see what his entrance was like to compare.

He didn't feel as theatrical, not sure if that's the right word but it was the thought I had just before drifting off. But again, I only got just past his replacement posts before I fell asleep.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.7

curiouskarmadog [5] - Albert B. Rampage, Nobody Special, Antihero, Bert, katsuki
beastcharizard [3] - Marquis, Konowa, Kovara
Marquis [2] - beastcharizard, notscience
Kovara [1] - Honey Bee
Bert [1] - curiouskarmadog

Not Voting [3]

- SXTLHGaiden, Tammy, Equinox

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch

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Deadline is December 22, 2014, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2014-12-22 13:00:00)

[Konowa]

I feel like I have too many Scum reads centered solely around the CKD wagon, so something is wrong somewhere.

[Equinox]

Nobody Special, what are your reads?

[Tammy]

Mmkay Bert let's look at this. You said that ckd's wagon felt town driven.

This is his wagon:

curiouskarmadog [5] - Albert B. Rampage, Nobody Special, Antihero, Bert, katsuki

I can understand a town read on ABR; he's probably town - though his conviction on reasoning is easy to fake. I'm going with town for now.

Why are you town reading Nobody Special?

Why are you town reading Antihero? Considering the fact that you literally just forced yourself to iso the antihero/ckd showdown and claimed that it was part of what made you apathetic, how were you reading him as town before that?

Also, were you reading the game prior to getting apathetic because ckd and antihero had an argument? You read the op because your second post in the game was you acknowledging that you're second in line to inheritance. How did you not know that Marquis was the head of the household and therefore a name cop.

He also says he's a name cop, why were you saying he was softing? You also know that you're second in line for inheritance, were you not informed what that meant? Otherwise you claiming to think marquis was just softing a name cop looks really disingenuous.

Also, we've been over it in the game before you got apathetic because of the ckd/antihero showdown that scum cannot kill people by their player names but by their character names, why are you sounding like it's something you've not known?

[Bert]

I said I'm strongly townreading the wagon at 'its core.' As in, ABR. He is the core. That is all that matters to me at this point.

Nobody Special is null for lack of activity, which is on par with what I remember in my past games. As for Antihero, I am going to let him do his own thing Day 1 (like i do with pirate mollie).

I wasn't informed in my PM what being second means. I saw the OP via a post on Page 2 saying that my name is revealed. I didn't know Marquis was a name cop, but that's null whether you believe I really glossed over it.

[Bert]

@Tammy Head of Sir Waffles Worthington

That is the 'core' I was referring to. Strong gut townread from past game experience.

tl;dr I'm not going to 'not join' wagons when most of the reason is that one of my scumreads is helping to drive it.. It doesn't always matter who drives wagons to me, but in this case, it's ABR, and so yes it does matter. I am sheeping him.

[Bert]

Also, were you reading the game prior to getting apathetic because ckd and antihero had an argument? You read the op because your second post in the game was you acknowledging that you're second in line to inheritance. How did you not know that Marquis was the head of the household and therefore a name cop.

on my phone and a tiny screen, checking on the latest posts every now and then, yes. on a computer, actually reading the game like today, no. today's the first time I've posted in this game on my computer.

I got apathetic when the marquis/beast and ckd/antihero things were going on, but I was casually keeping up - just not at the level required where I am ready to talk a lot.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I am sheeping him.

Why are you sheeping me? Are you that sure that I'm town?

[Marquis]

daily reminder to not lynch without my confirmation bc I rule this house

[Marquis]

also I was waiting for someone to do it on their own but I might as well just ask right now for name cop suggestions

[Tammy]

Marquis - Please answer my question. Do you typically town read beast when he's scum?

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Maybe ckd is scum, and beast is scum with him and is pushing marquis as scum to get the name cop role to ckd. IDK.

I need to stop overthinking it. I'll try to finish reading that ckd game today.

[Bert]

Why are you sheeping me? Are you that sure that I'm town?

Yes, that sure. I credit the tolemeister-school of learn2readABR, and when not in doubt, inAlbertWEtrust

[Bert]

tl;dr Tolemeister refers to Anatole Kuragin.

[Bert]

I am so sorry, triple post. I wanted a comparison. So, to Katsuki/Cupcake:

It is like you reading DrippingGoofball as super-town immediately (after a few posts) in Corpse Bride which ended a while back. Belief does not waver.

[Albert B. Rampage]

also I was waiting for someone to do it on their own but I might as well just ask right now for name cop suggestions

Tammy please. She's useful and if watchers are targeting her scum may be more hesitant to strike.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why are you sheeping me? Are you that sure that I'm town?

Yes, that sure. I credit the tolemeister-school of learn2readABR, and when not in doubt, inAlbertWEtrust

Keep doing what you're doing, it's workin

[Marquis]

Marquis - Please answer my question. Do you typically town read beast when he's scum?

i can't answer this question

[Marquis]

sorry.

[Tammy]

Okay then beast, you said when you're scum that you piggyback off of marquis town reads he gives you.

Please tell me what games marquis has town read you in when you are scum.

Thank you.

[Marquis]

also I was waiting for someone to do it on their own but I might as well just ask right now for name cop suggestions

Tammy please. She's useful and if watchers are targeting her scum may be more hesitant to strike.

so i should out how to target tammy on the small chance a town watcher exists even though there's a guaranteed-existing scum nightkill??


never mind the fact that unless tammy is scum, scum shouldn't know her character beforehand nor how to kill her- therefore there's no current threat to tammy that we apparently need a watcher to pseudo-protect her from.

your post assumes otherwise.


don't think i want to target a general townread. i think in case we have alignment cops/trackers which seems likely, helping them get their job done is better.


also i think a watcher would get the character name of the visitor, not the player name. it lines up more with this flavor and these mechanics

[Tammy]

Marquis - Please answer my question. Do you typically town read beast when he's scum?

i can't answer this question

Actually why won't you answer this question?

You're calling beast scum. He's claiming that you town read him when he's scum and he uses that to win his scum games. Why won't you answer that question?

[Tammy]

There are known watchers in the game. Every servant is a watcher.

[Marquis]

Actually why won't you answer this question?

i

can't

answer that question

and i'm not saying this to be obstinate