Mini 1625: Redemption (Game Over)

[droog]

the thought of mafia-werewolf neighborhood made me laugh
but i knew it was false

you being a werewolf is disappointing
scum wont kill you and there's no pressure on scum
your faction was a waste of time

[droog]

unless 'it was just awa and i' is a nice lie

[droog]

if gdb is werewolf, that definitely implies only one faction
which is why im suspecting gdb to flip scum
gdb's yesterday strikes me more as scum getting off a town lynch
than scum getting off a scum lynch

I'm pretty sure you're mafia. You think like mafia.

you actually have 0 incentive to say this unless another werewolf's in the mix

[droog]

or you could be a cool guy
nah im not scum

[droog]

DGB could be trolling to try and prevent us from looking at associatives, but I doubt it. Multiball actually makes flubber somewhat scummier to me. And it strengthens my Oc scumread as any tentativeness about AWA being a too well executed for him to be wolf

im interested in trolling through yesterday and seeing
which players thought awa/gdb were town
in a way that screams 'im scum and i know they're innocent'

[droog]

Question droog. Did you and AWA get to talk pre-game? Do you get to talk during the day?

no and no
only at night

[droog]

Null leaning scum
But I would've guessed he other faxtuon

[droog]

I forgot about it

[droog]

Yeah
I forgot since I couldn't post there first
So it didn't show in my posted in tbreads

[droog]

So if werewolves are only two
Who did scum try killing

[droog]

Hats not a subject change btw
I just have no answer you'll like

If you think me forgetting is scum motivate
You have to ask why my theoretical scum partners
Didn't also natter me to matter dgb

[droog]

Dgb made the kill

[droog]

The werewolf kill
What were scum doing?

[droog]

Assuming they have a kill
and they used it

We've got something running around
Bulletproof? Doctor?

[droog]

i thought you already suspected me?

[droog]

even though my suspicions were entirely founded =p

[droog]

please tell me if this sounds dumb as shit

why are we lynching gdb?
he's a bigger threat to scum because he could kill any of them
whereas we can always lynch him

even if we cant control him
the threat he poses to any other faction is greater than the threat he poses to us

[droog]

please tell me if this sounds dumb as shit

why are we lynching gdb?
he's a bigger threat to scum because he could kill any of them
whereas we can always lynch him

even if we cant control him
the threat he poses to any other faction is greater than the threat he poses to us

[droog]

Why is everyone ruling out the 3 man werewolf team so readily? It's very possible DGB is lying about her team being just her and AWA.

Droog in particularly posts like he knows we're in multiball.

hang on
you cast doubt on my theory saying dgb could be lying
and then cast doubt on me, saying i know we're in multiball?

[droog]

i want to hear from delibird before we hammer

[droog]

^i actually agree

mod can we please get a delibird prod?

Thanks guy

[droog]

Why does it rob a fakeclaim?
As neighbor I dint have to share every detail

[droog]

if delibird is going to flake
i at least want to know before we head to day 3

[droog]

Go read a book

[droog]

^i actually agree

mod can we please get a delibird prod?

Thanks guy

mod

[droog]

if delibird doesnt talk tonight
i will hammer

[droog]

Thanks delibird
If you're around I will give hammer to you
So you have enough time

[droog]

we almost have to start scumhunting all over again
VOTE: ochris for now

on the grounds of whatever case i had before awa came in

[droog]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game nothing against it from what i can see

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... e_Republic no clue on whether an open setup like this is also a normal setup

[droog]

gabit?
(agree with willow otherwise)

[droog]

But we did have a watcher

[droog]

that looks town v town to me

[droog]

i think it would be more productive to look for the second scum faction
which means looking at anti-town, scummy players
which... is the same thing

why are we having this debate again?

[droog]

ok, look, two factions are the likeliest outcome

werewolves had a gunsmith.
this is only useful if there exists:
-cop
-vigilante
-mafia
-gunsmith
-pgo

i see 0 evidence for a vigilante or a pgo
if there's a gunsmith with 2 actions and no guilties, now's the time to claim

leaving us with a cop or scum
why would cop exist if there are no scum?

the only counter explanation is gunsmith is a red herring
but it wouldnt be a red herring to us, we weren't guaranteed to see it
it'd be a red herring to the wolf faction

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itd be pretty hard to be a red herring
when they know exactly how big they are

[droog]

if there were 3 wolves out of 13 players
would they be 'fooled' by assuming an equivalent 3-person scumteam?
thats what a gunsmith would tell the wolves

actually, here's a thought
how do we know naomi is a watcher? we don't.
she could easily be a mafia seer or whatever the werewolf equivalent of gunsmith is

[droog]

i mean, clearly we have at least one faction
and no one died last night
so there's some doctor/bulletproof/etc. running around

remember only 1 kill happened ngiht 1

so which assumption is more reasonable:

1. there were 2 kills night 1 but only 1 person died
2. the gunsmith was a red herring

because i just went through why 2 is a poor assumption

[droog]

Yeah but the setup design can't control that

[droog]

tth was kind of null-scum but
i really liked his case just now

im going to sheep it

VOTE: delibird

[droog]

mod can we get a Muncie prod please? It's been 11 days
Thanks

[droog]

who are yoou guys asking to lynch?
tth provided a good case i sheeped

so why are the players who aren't voting anywhere compelling
asking everyone else change?

[droog]

naomi
make something to discuss by placing your vote somewhere

[droog]

delibird is theb iggest wagon
join it

[droog]

but then someone else will feel compelled to say
"this is a great wagon i will join"
or
"this is terrible you are bringing doom I SAY DOOM upon us the prophecy is nigh"

[droog]

willow quickhammer

[droog]

He could?

[droog]

could we get a votecount please @mod

[droog]

both mafia being inactive?

[droog]

so if ochris is one inactive scum whos the other
munkir?

[droog]

also im willing to test this theory
but a flip on an inactive at this point
would kill all momentum

[droog]

referring to things like
'mafia scum'
under our titles

[droog]

what do you mean originally?
im not sure what you're getting at

[droog]

who's not voting cdb?

[droog]

lynching werewolf and getting the watch early made the difference
game was balanced against two scum factions
but town easily overpowered one

good game guys

[droog]

disappointed you killed me
> :

[droog]

ftr thor
i think my case on awa
((werewolf lynched day 1))
is what willow kept giving you as incentive to read

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