Micro 434 - Winter's Ball [Game Over]

[Bert]

both dance partners are like lovers, and leave together whether it be voluntarily or by wayof lynch

[EspeciallyTheLies]

oh that's a really good point. I didn't think about that. makes bpc's floundering around with ceph really stand out.

pedit no we both go. but it's fine.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

lol yeah. that's the only motivation to leave.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

like I said, it's fine. if you and anti are both town then ii have a good chance of hitting scum in flames. either way, if I'm in the game, there will be paranoia and nonsense when it matters most. better to go first then last and have a loss.

[Antihero]

GAH DON'T DO THIS I HATE THIS THIS SUCKSDUL;KASUFDLKDSAF

[EspeciallyTheLies]

and besides if one of you is scum game is already lost lol.. no one can lynch you together. I'm ok with that I guess.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

what??? I'm just being logical anti. don't worry.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

just lemme see what flames has to say.

[Antihero]

what??? I'm just being logical anti. don't worry.

NO THIS NOT FUCKING LOGICAL THIS IS THIS OPPOSITE OF LOGICAL I'M SITTING HERE TEARING MY HAIR OUT AND CRYING INTO A PILLOW B/C I HATE THIS

SHIT

AFDSJKL;SJFL;IUOPFU

[EspeciallyTheLies]

stop that. just think.

do you think mollie is town? if so, then you and her are a town/town pair. (fwiw, i do think she's town).

then bert/flubber: i'm no bert expert. gut does say town. he's here actively sorting things out. his vote is wrong, but that's ok. i believe very strongly that flubber is scum though. so there's 1.

bpc/ceph: ceph is a strong townread right now. bpc, not so much. bert pointed out that the ladies' motivation is to stay in the dance, but the gentleman's isn't. which made me start thinking about what the gentlemen's motivations actually are - for scum, that'd be to pair optimally. the moment ceph gave bpc an out, he took it, before pine ever even posted. and then on pressure, he backpedalled. between flubber/bpc, equal scumreads, which also kind of reinforces the fact that flubber is sniping at ceph without actually voting him.

then me/flames. i know i'm town, i have no clue about flames because he hasn't said anything. however, if we're wrong about one of the above (flubber/bpc), then the last is definitely flames.

in terms of working it out, the order doesn't matter, because you're not getting lynched, anti/mollie. so why not get rid of my pair first - an unreadable lurker, and a paranoia-machine, then work from there. even if flames is town, then you know exactly where to look. the end, game over, town win.

that IS logical.

[Cephrir]

i do not know what ceph is asking for to read me, i think he expects me to act like a derp and get a townread that way (but that derpy side doesnt appear that often, which was a problem in our last game Timeshift)

Timeshift took me a little longer for that reason, but I still got there eventually and I'm pretty sure was calling you obvtown while everyone else argued with me.

Also, mollie is really town right now, though I haven't read page 12 yet

[Cephrir]

@ cephrir

what etl has attempted to do is poison the well against anti and i both and know logical fallacies of that particular nature come more often from scum than town.

Kinda sorta maybe. I'm not generally one to jump aboard and wagon based on someone else's meta unless they're presenting a case regarding it. Also, I don't have any interest in ending this day soon, I haven't even gotten to talk to BPC yet. My sorting him will have a big impact on how I see the game.

reason being that it took guts from either scum-him or town-him to accept my invite over Pine's or whoever asked him as well. my instinct is scum wanted me in the dance over Pine, but they didnt want to be paired with me (if that makes sense).

That makes perfect sense.

whatever. does it matter if we wait until flames posts? and then I wil leave.

I see no reason not to let the guy post.

GAH DON'T DO THIS I HATE THIS THIS SUCKSDUL;KASUFDLKDSAF

stahp

[EspeciallyTheLies]

bert - who here would not want pine around?

[FakeGod]

Dance.2

EspeciallyTheLies - Flames682 [3] - Antihero, pirate mollie, Bert
pirate mollie - Antihero [0]
Bert - Flubbernugget [1] - Cephrir
Cephrir - BipolarChemist [0]

Not Voting

[4] - , Flames682, Flubbernugget, BipolarChemist, EspeciallyTheLies

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is December 29, 2014, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2014-12-29 13:00:00)

[EspeciallyTheLies]

oh shit.. that's monday! i forgot about the short deadlines.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

you all know that is the deadline for ending the GAME right? there's no day phases or night phases here. so this needs to hurry along.

flames where the hell are you

[Antihero]

stahp

STOP SPELLING STOP LIKE THAT

IT'S STOP

S

T

O

P

STOP WITH STAHP

[EspeciallyTheLies]

i like stahp.

[Bert]

Ceph, why do you think Bert's scummy? I didn't really feel anything different in his posting so far than when I've played with his as town in other games. I'm pretty null on him anyways.

pedit: I was about to accept Ceph's offer D: Why Ceph scummy?

Damn right ya do.

I think BPC is town so far incidentally. Still, a neighborhood should do me a world of good.

Not sure about who in particular knows pine well from past games. I was meaning more Scum in general would *probably* want Pine gone and me into the dance, but who knows.
im torn right now looking at the gentleman/lady chart
if BPC and flub were scum together, then the pre-dance phase was easy for them and the interactions not really important as they both would have no chance of being left out.

BPC's entrance was worrying in that his play doesnt feel loose (this has nothing to do with whether his handling of choosing a dance partner was suboptimal or anything). But the switch last minute to accepting Ceph looked like he felt pressure to accept Ceph, and i need him to state why he changed last minute

Gentleman:

BipolarChemist
Flames682
Antihero
Flubbernugget


Ladies:

Bert
EspeciallyTheLies
Cephrir
pirate mollie

[Bert]

UGH i did not mean to quote those, i clikced the plus button earlier and it came out cos forgot to take out. booo

[Antihero]

i like stahp.

every time i see it

it makes me want to tear all the skin off my right arm

[EspeciallyTheLies]

i dont know pine. i would have wanted mollie or anti or you gone. <3 pretty much the only people here who can read me

...

which is funny... you know... because you're all misreading me..

p-edit: stahp.

read my post. comment.

[Bert]

i need him to state why he changed last minute

i suspect he will tell me he felt guilt-tripped, but still

p-edit: my vote is because i trust mollie to read you, in addition anti is voting you too which worries me a ton as well that theyre right. anti has hydra-ed with you a lot. on the surface you always look convincing in past games regardless of alignment, so.........

[Cephrir]

if BPC and flub were scum together, then the pre-dance phase was easy for them and the interactions not really important as they both would have no chance of being left out.

So you're kinda sheeping ETL here at least to get a foothold?? At least, I think that's who put that forth. You're also voting her right now?

BPC's entrance was worrying in that his play doesnt feel loose (this has nothing to do with whether his handling of choosing a dance partner was suboptimal or anything). But the switch last minute to accepting Ceph looked like he felt pressure to accept Ceph, and i need him to state why he changed last minute

Well, there was the whole mollie directly telling him to do that thing.

I'll let him explain other stuff if he wants but I know that there's a bit more to it than that.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

what has he said in the PT ceph? he hasn't really posted since dance started