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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:44 pm

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In post 237, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:ah yeah that post. i couldn't figure it out either but you'd already asked about it and then i forgot it existed.

@flubber
- i would like clarification of that as well. could you please just explain? are you saying you think bert is scum?


I'm not sure Flubber ever mentioned a read on Bert or even alluded to it yet?

In post 239, Bert wrote:flubba dubba dub suspects mwah but i dunno why yet im asking him that atm


Has he given you reasons yet?

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and actually i guess i lied. i think flubber is scum, and i cant read bert, but whether bert is scum or town doesn't matter to me since he'd be going with flubber.


Why do you think Flubber's scum?

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p-edit. k

UNVOTE:

dont leave yet. i dont mind talking things out a bit more. if you are town your reads will be important - you've always been surprisingly... amazing. but flubber dies eventually k


Why the unvote here? Like at the very least you could keep it on as pressure.

In post 309, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
bpc/ceph: ceph is a strong townread right now. bpc, not so much. bert pointed out that the ladies' motivation is to stay in the dance, but the gentleman's isn't. which made me start thinking about what the gentlemen's motivations actually are - for scum, that'd be to pair optimally. the moment ceph gave bpc an out, he took it, before pine ever even posted. and then on pressure, he backpedalled. between flubber/bpc, equal scumreads, which also kind of reinforces the fact that flubber is sniping at ceph without actually voting him.


This is ignoring a lot though. From the start I wanted to pair with Ceph because I know I can work with him. I tend to get lost in games, especially with some bigger personalities like anti/mollie/you and he can help me sort through that. Past that, I think I would have a decent chance at a good read in private with him, and with a town read we could basically treat it as a hydra which we've wanted to do like as an actual thing for a while now. But this all begs the question that if you have scum reads on both Flubb and I, why do you wanna leave? or at least why did you want to leave when you had zero read on Flames?

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In post 318, Bert wrote:BPC's entrance was worrying in that his play doesnt feel loose (this has nothing to do with whether his handling of choosing a dance partner was suboptimal or anything). But the switch last minute to accepting Ceph looked like he felt pressure to accept Ceph, and i need him to state why he changed last minute

Well, there was the whole mollie directly telling him to do that thing.

I'll let him explain other stuff if he wants but I know that there's a bit more to it than that.


I wanted to fuck around for the pre-dance but shit went fast and got heavy yo. Ceph's reaction after I put the bolded accept Pine's thing when he asks just felt like townceph to me. He instantly went to trying to not make me feel bad about choosing someone else, where I think a scumceph might be a bit more pissy about it. A big factor was other people's reactions to his posts as well. The main reason for not choosing Ceph was that he would end up be a distraction the next day with Anti coming at him, but with mollie pushing me to actually just go with the thing I want, I figured Anti would be able to calm down on tunnelling and there wouldn't be the whole distraction the next day. Also, I was just fucking relieved I could actually work with Ceph and have an early townread on him.

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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:55 pm

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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:08 pm

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In post 399, Cephrir wrote:Yes, you finally answered a different question.

Not liking a question isn't a reason to not answer it, nor does it resemble a legitimate excuse??????? Not sure why you would think "I don't like your question" is good enough

Well I picked bert out of him being my only other option which I kinda thought was implied.

When anti gets back you'll see the answer to your second question. I don't understand the harping over your two questions.
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:09 pm

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I was harping on it because I don't like being ignored

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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:14 pm

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They don't throw a fit about it either
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:31 pm

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Whatever. I don't want to discuss this anymore.
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:35 pm

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was wondering who was going to crawl out of the woodwork.
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:37 pm

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In post 370, Flubbernugget wrote:Why did you want me to dance with etl?

you now suddenly have a problem with it?

i had 2 scumreads on 2 ladies that weren't ETL at the time, so not sure where the confusion comes in.
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:40 pm

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In post 366, Flames682 wrote:Flubber hasn't done much besides refuse to answer questions.

Anti seems town.

ETL had an interesting response and also said he would leave but not sure why since I hadn't even posted.

BPC hasn't posted either and it's interesting that no one has commented on that but everyone wants me to post...?

Cephir seems town.

Not sure what to think of Bert.

Mollie could be town I'm not sure.

Anti has posted a bunch of fluff in caps but also gives useful info.



All in all: I still have no idea what the hell is going on.

this is a very "don't hurt me" readslist
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:41 pm

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In post 372, Flubbernugget wrote:Because I don't like the way he pressured me into accepting etl's dance offer.

question: how did this go from being a non-issue a while ago to being an issue now?
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:41 pm

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Actually it's a very I have no idea what's happening list.
Stop using gut as a reason to state someone is scum. Now.

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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:46 pm

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In post 391, Flubbernugget wrote:Because if I'm scumreading anti for attempting to pressure me it should be really obvious at what point I began to scumread him and I was really trying not to be a dick about it

actually, it's not obvious at all

i made the post you're talking about back on sunday and you posted 11 TIMES between then and the vote post

NOT ONE OF THOSE 11 FUCKING POSTS CONTAINS ANY OBJECTIONS TO MY PRESSURING YOU TO TAKE ETL'S OFFER
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:53 pm

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c'mon flubber

let's hear all about how me following through on my reads is
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:59 pm

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Not liking Flubber. The anti vote is pretty bad, I see it as a fabricated reason.

In post 309, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:then me/flames. i know i'm town, i have no clue about flames because he hasn't said anything. however, if we're wrong about one of the above (flubber/bpc), then the last is definitely flames.


This bit is interesting. If he's wrong about his first two scumreads, then it's me. Why is it me if I haven't even posted in the thread? Is not posting when I'm sleeping scummy somehow?
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:08 am

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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:02 am

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In post 410, Flames682 wrote:Actually it's a very I have no idea what's happening list.
You read the thread, so what is there to be confused about?
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:53 am

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In post 407, Antihero wrote:
In post 370, Flubbernugget wrote:Why did you want me to dance with etl?

you now suddenly have a problem with it?

i had 2 scumreads on 2 ladies that weren't ETL at the time, so not sure where the confusion comes in.

You had a "doublespeak" null on bert and reasoning as to why you would be able to peg mollie. But even then I'm not sure what this has to do with the motivation of your psycho tunnel threat.

And this is my first mention of it in thread but that doesn't mean it was never an issue, it just means I wanted to talk to bert about it at first.
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:00 am

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In post 411, Antihero wrote:
In post 391, Flubbernugget wrote:Because if I'm scumreading anti for attempting to pressure me it should be really obvious at what point I began to scumread him and I was really trying not to be a dick about it

actually, it's not obvious at all

i made the post you're talking about back on sunday and you posted 11 TIMES between then and the vote post

NOT ONE OF THOSE 11 FUCKING POSTS CONTAINS ANY OBJECTIONS TO MY PRESSURING YOU TO TAKE ETL'S OFFER


Because I wanted to take etl to bring it up and was slow on the draw?
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:07 am

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In post 416, Flubbernugget wrote:had a "doublespeak" null on bert and reasoning as to why you would be able to peg mollie.

AND A SCUMREAD ON CEPH

why are you leaving that out?
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:34 am

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In post 61, Antihero wrote:
ceph jumping on kinda' sorta' agreeing w/ the read but not overdoing it is weirdly guarded


That's a scum read?
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:40 am

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Also that's three scum reads on ladies and you just said you had two scum reads on ladies so wtf is going on right now.

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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:09 am

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Christmas last-minute stuff going on...

Flubber says he'll be able to talk via a Skype Voice call the day after Christmas, so I'm going to wait on that. Meanwhile, we'll talk on Skype and stoofs!

In post 410, Flames682 wrote:Actually it's a very I have no idea what's happening list.


While you commented on everyone, you're not taking a clear side on the three reads that are being argued about most: Flubber and BPC (and me to a slightly lesser extent). Also, the list below is far from "being unaware of the gamestate," especially when your townreads are agreeable to the rest of the reads lists already provided.

In post 366, Flames682 wrote:Flubber hasn't done much besides refuse to answer questions.

Anti seems town.

ETL had an interesting response and also said he would leave but not sure why since I hadn't even posted.

BPC hasn't posted either and it's interesting that no one has commented on that but everyone wants me to post...?

Cephir seems town.

Not sure what to think of Bert.

Mollie could be town I'm not sure.

Anti has posted a bunch of fluff in caps but also gives useful info.



All in all: I still have no idea what the hell is going on.
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:10 am

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Edited to add: "argued about most" reads - left out ETL, which (surprise!) you have no clear opinion about either. :)
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:17 am

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On a whim I isoed anti in autumndance

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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:23 am

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In post 409, Antihero wrote:
In post 372, Flubbernugget wrote:Because I don't like the way he pressured me into accepting etl's dance offer.

question: how did this go from being a non-issue a while ago to being an issue now?

Just because I didn't say anything doesn't mean it was a non-issue

Also I'm town reading bert but is that the general concensus because his posts come off as having ic status

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