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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:11 pm

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In post 1299, zoraster wrote:so i've started playing this on my ipad. i feel like i'm fairly good with the play of the hand for the cards/decks i've been using (though by no means world class), but not very good at deck composition. That's particularly true in the Arena. Does anyone have any guidance or rules of thumb on how to approach arena deck building?


Arena is about a curve and creatures with good stats. You can't get cute and try to get synergies, because they likely aren't coming. Cards like Chillwind Yeti (4/5 for 4) and Spider Tank (3/4 for 3) are among the best possible picks you can get because of the stats you get for the cost. You want cards which are going to stick around and get extra value, maybe taking out two enemy minions before dying.

It's not easy, though. I think I'm a decent player, but I can barely ever go better than 3/3 in arena.
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:58 am

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I assume arena uses matchmaking, so presumably if it's got your true matchmaking value 3/3 is the most likely result
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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:00 am

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In post 1301, zoraster wrote:I assume arena uses matchmaking, so presumably if it's got your true matchmaking value 3/3 is the most likely result


I can basically guarantee arena doesn't use any player based match making. Record based for sure though. The average is still 3-3 but if you are good you can do consistently better than that.
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:33 pm

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arena all based on win #

later on you can play the same person at 10/11/12 two games in a row tho.
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:17 pm

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So I just downloaded this game today.

Finished playing the tutorial, and then played 3 ranked games with the mage girl thing and won them all and now I'm ranked 24.

I also have no idea what I'm doing. Is there a progress bar telling you how far you are from reaching a certain rank or?

Edit: I won another game and now 23 and still have no idea where to check how far I am from a rank :(
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:49 pm

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The stars that pop up after a game are inidicators of rank.

The progress bar with the levels is for that character - you get cards when you reach certain levels.
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:52 am

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I'm really liking rogue, so fun :)

Edit: I've only tried mage, druid, and rogue, but from what I've seen priest/hunter/warrior/shaman seem really weak :(
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:57 am

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hunter is cancer
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warrior you need like 10 trillion dust to make a consistent deck
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:03 am

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In post 1304, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:So I just downloaded this game today.

Finished playing the tutorial, and then played 3 ranked games with the mage girl thing and won them all and now I'm ranked 24.

I also have no idea what I'm doing. Is there a progress bar telling you how far you are from reaching a certain rank or?

Edit: I won another game and now 23 and still have no idea where to check how far I am from a rank :(


I started ranked the other day-won all my games to rank 20, then faced people who were intelligent, so really struggled. Got stuck on rank 20. Need to unlock some other cards tbf.


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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:16 am

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In post 1308, Nexus wrote:
In post 1304, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:So I just downloaded this game today.

Finished playing the tutorial, and then played 3 ranked games with the mage girl thing and won them all and now I'm ranked 24.

I also have no idea what I'm doing. Is there a progress bar telling you how far you are from reaching a certain rank or?

Edit: I won another game and now 23 and still have no idea where to check how far I am from a rank :(


I started ranked the other day-won all my games to rank 20, then faced people who were intelligent, so really struggled. Got stuck on rank 20. Need to unlock some other cards tbf.


Is it possible to not suck without spending money?


Yes. But it's really, really difficult, because it's a card game. It's very grindy to try to get any amount of gold to buy things without spending money. There are decks that you can build that will compete to a certain point, and there's clearly some skill to it. But better cards will always give you a better chance.
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:34 pm

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In post 1308, Nexus wrote:I started ranked the other day-won all my games to rank 20, then faced people who were intelligent, so really struggled. Got stuck on rank 20. Need to unlock some other cards tbf.

I'm in the same boat :(
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:43 pm

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Wait what's the strongest class for noobs who lack cards.
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:08 pm

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Probably mage.

B/c flamestrike is pretty good and it's soulbound so you get it from playing.
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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:42 pm

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any zoo(warlock) deck is gonna be cheap dust wise and shouldnt be too hard to get.

but then you become a dirty zoo player.
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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:23 pm

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Zoo is probs the cheapest legit deck to build while Warrior requires like five million dust
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:23 pm

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Midrange Shammy is cheap too if you're like me and find Zoo boring as fk to play
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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:18 pm

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I don't understand the hate for hunter decks or for zoo decks. It's a classic card game aggro archetype. They exist in essentially every TCG like this, same with combo and midrange and control. It's going to happen
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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:47 pm

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On my
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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:52 pm

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In post 1317, zoraster wrote:On my
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I do consistently better than 3/3. Thats my only actual evidence. (my average is probably like 5 wins, though I know of some streamers that always seem to break 7).
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:34 pm

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4 thoughtsteals in arena too much?
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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:53 pm

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MechaMage is fairly cheap to build too, and the most expensive card (Archmage Antonidas) happens to also be an incredibly good card for Mage decks, so the Dust isn't wasted.
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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:01 pm

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In post 1319, DeathNote wrote:4 thoughtsteals in arena too much?


I don't like Thoughtsteal that much, actually. I think it's a worse Arcane Intellect. Would you run 4 Arcane Intellects in Arena?
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:26 pm

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In post 1321, hasdgfas wrote:
In post 1319, DeathNote wrote:4 thoughtsteals in arena too much?


I don't like Thoughtsteal that much, actually. I think it's a worse Arcane Intellect. Would you run 4 Arcane Intellects in Arena?


No but the amount of troll that you get out of thought steal is great. Had a bit of fun with it but my deck is obviously bad because of them.

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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:35 pm

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thoughtsteal 2 for 1s straight up(play one card get two cards) and doesnt thin out your deck.

arcane intellect thins out your deck.


4 is defo too much, and its value almost directly correlates to how many wins you're at. the later you are in a run the more thoughtsteal=kickass.
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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 5:45 am

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Deck thinning has it's advantages, too.

Thoughtsteal is amazing in constructed because of everyone running powerful legendaries. I prefer it much less in arena.
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