Open 582: Stackin' the Deck/Hipster Mafia (Over)

[Anatole Kuragin]

"x did not go anywhere"

[Bicephalous Bob]

texcat can you make sure you didn't target me

[texcat]

VOTE: Bob
I am the roleblocker and I blocked Wguerts.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I may have made a slight mistake (nothing that would give one player another's results, or that would result in different people being alive) in my night action response PMs. Players affected have been notified. Sorry.

[wgeurts]

If you roleblocked me doesn't that comfirm me as town as there were two scum and if I was scum there would of been no night kill. This is because I would have been roleblocked if I took it and the other scum died hence he couldn't take the kill.

[Bicephalous Bob]

ak just PM-ed me telling me abr targeted droog

[Bicephalous Bob]

so he pretty much confirmed me as town

[Alchemist21]

Lol Guess that makes Bob confirmed.

Let's get on with lynching Wgeurts.

[Alchemist21]

Oh wait, Psyche still needs to tell us who he's going to vig.

Don't end Day yet.

[Alchemist21]

randomidget -
texcat -

Mathdino

- IC
Riddleton - Cop
Alchemist21

wgeurts

- roleblocker
Flubbernugget - VT
Bicephalous Bob - Tracker

Psyche

- vig

I don't believe Riddleton. Besides, if scum chose 3 mods, the goon cop is necessarily useless because the last scum is a special of some sort.

Lynch Riddleton, vig texcat, roleblock midget, and track Alchemist. The problem is the scum JOAT so ifi t looks like there were shenanigans we can reconsider.

No, I think you were right about Riddleton being Town. Even if goon cop is useless, it's still too risky to have claimed it as the last surviving scum because the possible CC would ruin him.

I believe all the PR claims by virtue of the following:

Scum killed Droog - I see no PR crumbs in his ISO, so scum must know there are a lot of PRs to warrant killing outside the IC.

Scum that knew there were only a certain number of PRs would have claimed a PR if and only if all PRs had already claimed. Knowing there is no risk of a counterclaim means they can safely claim.

Bob is not scum - The revelation of this mod error followed by Bob receiving a result from the mod is indicative that he's Town (unless someone else wants to say they were corrected? Doubtful). So Bob, the only one among the PRs that could be scum, is conftown, meaning the scum is among the VT claims.

[Psyche]

wgeurts is pretty definitely town
but hey i've been wrong before

[texcat]

randomidget -
texcat - roleblocker
Mathdino - IC
Riddleton - Goon Cop
Alchemist21
wgeurts - VT
Flubbernugget - VT
Bicephalous Bob - Tracker
Psyche - vig

Alchemist and random? Are you both claiming vanilla?

I count that as 5 power roles. Which means that scum chose 3 of the following:
Bulletproof
Role Cop
JOAT (1 shot Strongman, 1 shot Ninja)
Daytalk (passive ability)
Recruit Traitor as Mafia Goon

We know they chose to recruit. And they must have chosen Daytalk. And that leaves the remaining scum as either a BP, a role cop or a JOAT.

Or it means one of the power role claims is fake. Is there some logical way to start confirming people?

[Psyche]

Well apparently ABR targetted Bob, so he must have had one of the PRs. Or are the PRs factional?

[Psyche]

*droog

[Psyche]

Oh, droog died.

[Alchemist21]

randomidget -
texcat - roleblocker
Mathdino - IC
Riddleton - Goon Cop
Alchemist21
wgeurts - VT
Flubbernugget - VT
Bicephalous Bob - Tracker
Psyche - vig

Alchemist and random? Are you both claiming vanilla?

I count that as 5 power roles. Which means that scum chose 3 of the following:
Bulletproof
Role Cop
JOAT (1 shot Strongman, 1 shot Ninja)
Daytalk (passive ability)
Recruit Traitor as Mafia Goon

We know they chose to recruit. And they must have chosen Daytalk. And that leaves the remaining scum as either a BP, a role cop or a JOAT.

Or it means one of the power role claims is fake. Is there some logical way to start confirming people?

Yes, I'm claiming VT. See my 484 for why the PR claims are all true.

Now, I think we should look at the ISOs of the players claiming VT and look for PR crumbs. If we find any, it would be indicative of them trying to setup a fakeclaim that they didn't get the chance to do.

[Psyche]

They didn't choose JOAT. Otherwise mathdino would probably be dead.

[Alchemist21]

They didn't choose JOAT. Otherwise mathdino would probably be dead.

That doesn't make sense. Explain.

[Psyche]

They presumably avoided killing the confirmed innocent because they expected him to be protected, right? Strongman would've made that moot. And ninja would have made ABR untraceable. I have my doubts that they would add a town PR to get JOAT and then not be eager to use it.

[Alchemist21]

Meh, I think they would have still targeted him. If they didn't kill Dino, they'd still be getting rid of the bodyguard if it existed.

[Randomnamechange]

I'm a vt

[Bicephalous Bob]

I think math was kept alive to push the riddle lynch through:

Riddleton: Lynch the fuck out of this if 2birds flips scum. Every step of the way Riddleton appeared to try and start a new wagon to counteract any 2birds suspicion, all the while barely even interacting or giving reads on him. Strong association to be made here, and honestly, I find Riddleton scummier than 2birds. Well done scum.

[Bicephalous Bob]

The claimed PRs (not just because they are the claimed PRs, mind you) and Alch are all probably town so scum is probably in {flubber, geurts, random}. I don't think it's random so scum is probably in {flubber, geurts}. It'd be cool if it's geurts because then all PRs targeted scum but I'm currently thinking it's flubber.

Also, scum really fucked up if they have daytalk.

[Riddleton]

I think we should lynch wgeurts today and at night:
a) Psyche should vig flubber.
b) texcat should RB random
c) bob should track alch

[Riddleton]

The last scum is hiding in the VTs. This is practically autowin for us now, I think..?