Mini 1633 ~ Non-normal Mafias Mafia OVER!!!

[tn5421]

if we had to lynch purely from lurkers then id go
Zombehs>

MTD

>

FuD

>Dino>

Ghostlin[/b]>Four

Even you agreed earlier that you'd rather push MTD / FuD.

[Om of the Nom]

i want to see where it leads
i also think his gun census result is extremely overdue and ika posting that reminded me of it

MTD FuD are next though

[Ghostlin]

i want to see where it leads
i also think his gun census result is extremely overdue and ika posting that reminded me of it

MTD FuD are next though

It is--I've been talking with the mod about a certain part of my role I didn't understand, which is part of my lack of enthusiasm. That and the fact that I've been equally absent in all the games I've been in. You will get your gun census.

[Ghostlin]

I would normally say we have more time to talk but considering the "old skool" deadlines I must now debate

What exactly was stopping you before? Yes, I plucked it out of your ISO, but that's because I don't fucking remember you ever.

I kind of got a 'what the fuck' reaction from this question, so I'll restate it another way: what was stopping you from debating? Reading your ISO previous to this post, you are literally debating or interacting literally

NOTHING

.

[Ghostlin]

He's telling you that you can't have it both ways.

I'm well aware, but I'm also not aware of any actual way besides prods and replacement to get inactive players to be more active. Do you? Threats are pretty much the only way, and I don't want to decide the day's lynch based on activity rather than content.

Well, I do have a suggestion: don't actually post that you are not willing to lynch them, and then turn around and post you're willing to later.

It sounds (sounded) like you're keeping your fucking options open to choose a lurker lynch later.

[Om of the Nom]

ok great thats rlly all i wanted from u right now tbh
i expect a census before a lynch tho

UNVOTE:
VOTE: MTD

[FourTrouble]

FT how did you feel about Ghost's post about pasch?

Doesn't cut either way. Bit hypocritical after he attacked my post about town blocs, but it's also not something I feel strongly about.

[FourTrouble]

ika feels town.

[FourTrouble]

MTD is V/LA until Jan 2, so I'm not sure why you're voting there.

[FourTrouble]

How do you feel about Pasch? Gut says he's scum but I can't explain it right now (it's not because he defended Zombeh - I was already getting bad vibes before that).

[Om of the Nom]

o whoops i must have missed his v/la post among the mess that is literally anyone else right now who is even moderately active
i've gotten too accustomed to not seeing him, zombeh or fud post much at all
VOTE: FuD
there

PEDIT: I like a gut scum read on Pasch too, but i feel like pasch is just way too misguided but strong in his beliefs to be scum do u get what i mean
i think he's very wrong in his beliefs but i like the fact that he hasnt backed down from the read on me despite only having one other person actually actively agreeing with him

[Ghostlin]

FT how did you feel about Ghost's post about pasch?

Doesn't cut either way. Bit hypocritical after he attacked my post about town blocs, but it's also not something I feel strongly about.

Oh, I hate town blocs, really. I once lost a newbie game to one that essentially was me and two other folks all replacing in at once and then losing the game because we entirely trusted the wrong person. The problem with Town blocs is, if one of you is scum and driving the whole mess, Town will lose the game. It will happen, there's nothing fucking you can do about.

If Town can reach consensus and get scum to do it to themselves, making the bad choices, you win much better. This really isn't a Day 1 conversation. is it?

[Om of the Nom]

also ftr Fu is not using his vote at all bc right now its parked on me and he hasnt said anything about me since RVS when he actually put it on me

[Om of the Nom]

i feel like there is a potential for a four man townblock here but idk if anyone else is as confident as myself in those reads

[FourTrouble]

I'm not even defending town blocs - I was talking about using a desire to form them as a town-tell or scum-tell (especially without other evidence).

[Ghostlin]

also ftr Fu is not using his vote at all bc right now its parked on me and he hasnt said anything about me since RVS when he actually put it on me

Hasn't FuD actually said something recently? I think I saw his name, but I don't remember what the fuck he said...

[FourTrouble]

I'm pretty confident Om and eye are town.

[Om of the Nom]

I have missed too much to completely catch up, but I will comment on the lynch all lurkers discussion going on now.

I used to see it as a big scum tell, and as much as I disagree with it, it is a null tell at best. Those fighting back against those who want to lynch all lurkers are more likely to be scum.

Always a scum tactic of mine to defend lurkers. I will have to iso those who are doing this to see if there is something there.

the most recent thing he said
no follow up
no solid names
just a catch all post with no real meat to it

[FourTrouble]

FuD had a great post earlier that I thought was town - then he had that weird post where he didn't catch up but felt like weighing in on the lynch lurkers discussion. Which sucks cause the lynch lurkers discussion was a great way for scum to post without taking any meaningful positions about the players in the game... so I understand why you'd suspect FuD, but I'm not gonna vote him.

Ghost might be town. I'm not sure anymore on that read. The emotion in his posts feels so fake to me, but I could be wrong, and he could just say "fuck" gratuitously for no reason all the time.

[Ghostlin]

I'm not even defending town blocs - I was talking about using a desire to form them as a town-tell or scum-tell (especially without other evidence).

It's a naivete tell. Depending on your point of view, that could be put on or the player who's affecting it could really be THAT naive.

I don't buy MS was that naive; nor do I think he's really dumb, he's a loud distraction in play style that's almost impossible to peg as scum.

[Om of the Nom]

I'm pretty confident Om and eye are town.

im confident in u town but im still slightly weary of eye bc of the consistent sheeping as i said earlier
what is ur opinion on that

PEDIT: which post was that that was Fu's great post

[Om of the Nom]

Ghosty, why the hate on sonic?

Flubbs, still love your avatar.

this is the only other non-rvs game relevant thing he actually said and it says nothing telling about anyone again

i think he's coasting through all this

[Ghostlin]

Ghost might be town. I'm not sure anymore on that read. The emotion in his posts feels so fake to me, but I could be wrong, and he could just say "fuck" gratuitously for no reason all the time.

I'll let you in on a little secret: I do it to illicit reactions. As both alignments. It's to sort out the bullshit, if you can pardon my french. It also lets me rattle your cage a little. I'll be honest, there's not a lot here to be emotionally worked up in this game. No one's said anything really scummy or exasperatingly dumb. Then again, the amount of sheer NOTHING that's been said in this game like Om shared about FuD has also been said.

Now I've just fucking ruined it for the entire rest of THIS game, but...I really don't have anything to hide.

[FourTrouble]

Yea, that's the post. I know this isn't brilliant evidence or anything but changing names to "Ghosty" and "Flubbs" and just the overall wording of the post gives me huge town vibes.

But of course, the lactivity (new word for lack of activity) in this game is screwing with the reads I have - so I can't tell if FuD is town. Or like, I can't tell anymore if dino is town because he disappeared after I got good vibes from him. I dunno. I'm basically just waiting until after the holidays to sort shit out. I'm starting to think Ghost is probably town because he's active and I like how he responded to my vote (i.e. not giving a shit and just continuing to talk about other stuff).

[FourTrouble]

I never thought of sheeping as a general scum-tell - largely depends on the player and context. eye seems like the kind of person to sheep, especially in a game like this where everyone is having trouble getting reads (or at least I am).