Mini 1627: Ninja Mini Mafia

[Shinobi]

Vote Count

killerjester

(2): Varsoon, Boonskiies

Varsoon

(1): killerjester

Not Voting

(3): acryon, Formerfish, Zebulin

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-01-15 15:00:00)

[Formerfish]

I know one of the remaining PRS, do we think there is another one out there? I kinda want to say no based off the 2 goon flips but balance isn't my strong suit.

[acryon]

I know one of the remaining PRS, do we think there is another one out there? I kinda want to say no based off the 2 goon flips but balance isn't my strong suit.

Yeah, this is an interesting idea. I would think there is more than just one PR, just because it would be so vanilla otherwise, but I also admittedly don't know a ton about typical set-ups in these kind of games.

[Formerfish]

How does everyone feel about a mass claim? I am normally against them, but feel like this situation would benefit from knowing who to lay off of and where pressure would be more useful. It would also significantly decrease the lynch pool.

[acryon]

How does everyone feel about a mass claim? I am normally against them, but feel like this situation would benefit from knowing who to lay off of and where pressure would be more useful. It would also significantly decrease the lynch pool.

Hmm, idk. The problem is, say we only have 1 PR. We end up with 1 PR and 5 claimed VT's. We lynch from that pool of 5 for a 20% chance of scum, and our PR dies. If we have 2 PRs, then we lynch from a pool of 4 for a 25% chance. Next day, we have 1 PR, 2 VTs, and 1 Scum, so we are in LyLo with a 33% chance. I think we have to play is straight here.

[killerjester]

I'm against it unless it would help us confirm other townies. I mean a PR will get the chance to claim anyway before a hammer (except in "rare" circumstances) so there's no reason to give out unprovoked information if it won't help us that much.

[Varsoon]

Given the flips of our town so far (jack of all trades and Vigilante), I've got to imagine the last scum is a power role and that if we have any other town PRs then they're something that interacts with Vig/JoaT with, perhaps, negative utility.

Also, scum could lie and claim a PR as well.
We're too close to fudge this up with basing our lynches in something as insubstantial as a mass claim in a closed setup.

I say that we lynch based off of logic and the fact we've got 64 pages of info to go off of.

[acryon]

Given the flips of our town so far (jack of all trades and Vigilante), I've got to imagine the last scum is a power role and that if we have any other town PRs then they're something that interacts with Vig/JoaT with, perhaps, negative utility.

Also, scum could lie and claim a PR as well.
We're too close to fudge this up with basing our lynches in something as insubstantial as a mass claim in a closed setup.

I say that we lynch based off of logic and the fact we've got 64 pages of info to go off of.

Agreed

[Varsoon]

With that said, I am thinking Killer could be the last scum.
If it's not him, I'll be damned, but there's probably any easy case to make on a lot of the players in this game.

The Boon wagon at day's end had Acyron and Zebulin on it, if you want to think that Xiao wasn't a bus. :/

Otherwise, we've got Formerfish and Boonskies on the tail end of the Xiao wagon there. I don't think that scum would hammer out their second comrade, but I could be totes wrong.

So, yeah, ugh.
This is actually a conflicting endgame.

[Varsoon]

I think that based on Xiao's interactions and how Thor was handled, we could probably deduce the last scum.

[Varsoon]

Keeping in mind that Thor was playing scummy and Xiao was playing to his town meta.

[Formerfish]

Killer could make sense based off the nk. Orc had him as biggest town read, which was starting to fade away. Dude came in all hot and heavy to find scum and has done fuck all.

[acryon]

I'll be V/LA until Monday as usual. I am going to have some more time when I get back, so I will be doing some in-depth looks at people.

Initial thoughts are that scum is either Varsoon or killer. I still haven't totally ruled boonskies out, but he has dropped quite a bit lower for me.

[acryon]

Sorry, meant to bold for the mod.

V/LA until Monday as usual

[Boonskiies]

Killer or Zebulin please.

[Zebulin]

Back, reading.

[Zebulin]

VOTE: Boonskiies Still think he's the scummiest, for all the reasons prior.

Alright, so I'm thinkig the last scum is Boonskiies or killerjester. I don't think Acryon or Varsoon are the last scum, as they are both gut townreads, and Formerfish seems to be the most active and contributing, so I don't think he's scum either. KJ has been inactive, but I don't think that's enough by itself to be lynched. Boonskiies has been scummy all game.

Formerfish: I'm pretty sure anyone would've killed Orc in the night, he was basically conf town after both Thor and Xiao hating him and then dying.

[Formerfish]

Werent you scum reading me yesterday based off the fact that I wouldn't reveal why I found you scummy?

[Zebulin]

Yeah, but then you did reveal why you found me scummy, so now I'm not scumreading you.

[Formerfish]

I did?

[Zebulin]

Post 1355. You pointed out I was tunneling way too much, and I'm trying to stop doing that for the rest of the game and focused on some other players (like Orc and Killerjester).

[killerjester]

Damn guys I know I was a little inactive over the holidays but I think you're trying to pull more out of it than it's worth. Even so, I hope you all take a serious look at Varsoon after I'm gone. I refuse to believe the Drake wagon was entirely town-driven, and Varsoon's hammer still pings me as terrible. Boonskiies' play has been entirely unimpressive but I'm willing to believe in whatever trust tell orc saw. Zebulin was overdefensive yesterday but I feel his game has improved since.

Varsoon > Zebulin > Boonskiies, although the latter two are much less preferred.

[Varsoon]

I think we've won after we lynch you, though.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Boonskiies Still think he's the scummiest, for all the reasons prior.

Alright

, so I'm thinkig the last scum is Boonskiies or killerjester.

I don't think Acryon or Varsoon are the last scum, as they are both gut townreads, and Formerfish seems to be the most active and contributing, so I don't think he's scum either. KJ has been inactive, but I don't think that's enough by itself to be lynched. Boonskiies has been scummy all game.

Formerfish: I'm pretty sure anyone would've killed Orc in the night, he was basically conf town after both Thor and Xiao hating him and then dying.

He thinks it's either me or killer, and there's a wagon on killer, and he chooses to vote me. I don't see how it's not Zebulin.

VOTE: Zebulin

[Formerfish]

If he is scum why would it matter where his vote is?