Mini 1633 ~ Non-normal Mafias Mafia OVER!!!

[tn5421]

I'm just hoping we don't have mafia doctors and SKs abound, since they're non-gun roles.

[Om of the Nom]

im going under the assumption that any mafia role has a gun because of factional kills
sk's should count as guns too??

[tn5421]

SK's typically use knives or other bladed weaponry.

[tn5421]

Of course, this is a non-normal game so that could also not be true. But I'm betting it is, considering only one gun.

[Flubbernugget]

Wait does that mean there's only one mafia member?

Who wants to claim bulletproof

[tn5421]

Does bulletproof work against an SK?

[ika]

1)ika how do you think ghostlin's census works out in terms of scum?
2)do you think its just one third party
3)do you think its a one man scum and a traitor
3)or do you think he's lying

(survivors or other non-gun 3p roles can be littered throughout)

1) if his role works like hes stating (that he finds ou how many guns are in play) that any "scum" that uses guns would show having one (mafia mainly)
2) doubt it, we have firefighter and shirnk claims already iirc correclty so its either (under premisis that all claims so far are thruth):
a) my assumption that we have a mass of 3p roles and no real "informed minority"
b) just red hearring roles and that they are esnsally "named townies"
3) i still think its just a mass of 3p roles that don't have guns and that the role could be implying that we have inventor(s) who can hand out guns or gun-like weapons

[Om of the Nom]

i think role implications cant be trusted due to the non-normal claims made by the mod
role claims can be trusted to be true but the roles that counter them cant be hypothesized to be included do u get me

[ika]

i think role implications cant be trusted due to the non-normal claims made by the mod
role claims can be trusted to be true but the roles that counter them cant be hypothesized to be included do u get me

i think?

if my understanding is correct: you think the claims are true but the existence of their counterpart is not.

if thats not it you need to rephrase

[Om of the Nom]

that is it basically
i dont see what is guaranteed beyond the assumptions of truth in player's claims

[Paschendale]

SK's typically use knives or other bladed weaponry.

Don't vigs use guns?

[tn5421]

Vigis use guns

[ika]

that is it basically
i dont see what is guaranteed beyond the assumptions of truth in player's claims

you must understand that i am also a mod who makes has a huge thing for 3ps and bastardized elements/setups

im basicly playing outguess mod by applying my own mod meta and that if this was me:

we currently have at face value: firefigher (arson counterpart), shrink (cult counterpart), gun cenus (1 gun in play)

so it looks like the mod is using regular roles and nothing custom (which is what i like to do)

so from there i would assume that if the mod is using regular roles their counterparts exist

makes sense on why i beilve that there jsut a bunch of 3p scums and no real "informed minority" atm?

[tn5421]

So you think we have a lot of self-aligned roles in play, rather than a coherent faction?

I think I can get behind that; as it actually makes sense.

[ika]

So you think we have a lot of self-aligned roles in play, rather than a coherent faction?

I think I can get behind that; as it actually makes sense.

yes

[eyestott]

Do you reckon we can ask the mod what kinds of roles would have a gun?

[tn5421]

@MOD:

What kinds of roles would you consider to be 'in possession' of a gun?

[CooLDoG]

@MOD:

What kinds of roles would you consider to be 'in possession' of a gun?

If a player has they will know for a fact that they have one. What types of roles have guns? I don't know. Can non-killing roles have guns? Maybe. Can killing roles have guns? maybe. Must killing roles have guns? maybe. I can't tell you this.

And you knew I couldn't tell you

*sigh* I will be busy tomorrow. So I can't make a vote count. I will deal with replacement sort of shit Monday.

[Flubbernugget]

Is ghostlin a named townie right now because I was starting to get too intimate with my vote to leave it

[Paschendale]

This latest setup spec doesn't seem to be helping us much. I suppose it's useful to know that scum are going to be scumhunting other killing roles, so they'll look more like town. I'm not sure how that helps, though. It's filling my brain with WIFOM. Also my brain has been full of actual wine a lot lately. Happy New Year!

[Om of the Nom]

Also my brain has been full of actual wine a lot lately.

this explains so much

[eyestott]

By the way, Im out for most of the next 48 hours, so I apologise.
Two of my best friends (theyre twins) are having their 18th tomorrow.
Ill be out from 11 am to 4pm, then from 6pm to 2pm the next day.
X-post

[eyestott]

Mathdino has made 32 posts in other topics since he declared LA.
Seriously.

[Ghostlin]

ghost: does your role state what kind of role would have guns or do we not know?

It wouldn't state that. The thing that bothers me, really fucking deeply is this: most Mafia folks have a gun. Pretty much every Vig that exists has a gun. None of those showed up in the census.

Not going to reveal how many shot I am.

[Ghostlin]

Mathdino has made 32 posts in other topics since he declared LA.
Seriously.

So, let me ask this way: we using the generic 'they're posting everywhere but here' tell (which is fine, I have no fucking problem with that),

or the whole 'Mathdino is the kind of the player that you usually can't shut up unless he's scum'?