Mini 1625: Redemption (Game Over)

[Thor665]

I want a Munkir claim.

N2 I watched myself... as I thought i'd been shot for using my role

So you're bulletproof too now?

No, Droog was. Im not sure where your getting that from.

Let's say scumtargeted you for death and you saw it happen - what would it gain you or town? That's what he's getting at.

I have no idea how to read any of what just went down. It literally looks like a competition to look scummy.

Unvote: crazypianist
Vote:Munkir

This is a solid play though.

[Thor665]

Why was CDB unanimously lynched yesterday?

That was kind of my fault, Thor.

I made a case and it was wrong because I suck at this game.

So you just made a case and everyone turbo sheeped you?
Are you confirmed town?

[TellTaleHeart]

No

[Whomping Willow]

Let's say scumtargeted you for death and you saw it happen - what would it gain you or town? That's what he's getting at.

lulz how did I not realise this[/quote]

This is why is trees don't run for office

and CDB was lynched because apathy pretty much

[Whomping Willow]

If Munkir flips mafia then GGG and TTH, and less so Flubber, look good for town, since scum wants maximum credit and will just hop on. CP could be scum for that post, but Oc slot still looks worse, if Munkir's scum I think this game is pretty much wrapped up

[Naomi-Tan]

If Munkir flips mafia then GGG and TTH, and less so Flubber, look good for town, since scum wants maximum credit and will just hop on. CP could be scum for that post, but Oc slot still looks worse, if Munkir's scum I think this game is pretty much wrapped up

If munkir flips mafia, i think we're done, as we got 2 Warewolfs and 1 mafia lynched... can't be more than that surely?

[Thor665]

Generally a mafia team of 1 is called an SK.

I will admit I've been in a game with a 2 man SK in it before - but we expressed negativity towards that mod and I've never seen anything that twitty since.

[Whomping Willow]

If Munkir is on his own he will flip SK, 9:2:2 is balanced as there will typically be some form of crossfire, gunsmith as a diversion tactic if we're in 9:2:1 is pointless outside of trolling people in to thinking LyLo is one day earlier, which has very little utility, so I think we're in 9:2:2, if we're in 9:2:1 or 10:3 then I don't have to think about it anyway because the game will end.

PEdit: ninja'd, and lolwut?

[Whomping Willow]

I have no idea how to read any of what just went down. It literally looks like a competition to look scummy.

Got to keep those options open eh

[Thor665]

I would love it if I could start narrowing those options - would you like to tell me that you thought last page was full of pro-town reactions to that claim?
Because I don't see it.
Feel free to explain to me what I missed, I'd love to see some burning town reactions to a fairly obvious 'not gambit' claim.

[Thor665]

Flubber was voting the, functional, cop claim.
Pianist was asking for a counterclaim.
TellTale was ignoring it to throw himself on a sword about the CDB lynch for some reason.
GGG was dodging a question and ruddy seconding the claim request.
You're calling people town for questioning the claim while not questioning the claim.

It was literally a page of insanity and pro-scum commentary.

What did I miss?
Clue me in.

[TellTaleHeart]

Flubber was voting the, functional, cop claim.
Pianist was asking for a counterclaim.
TellTale was ignoring it to throw himself on a sword about the CDB lynch for some reason.
GGG was dodging a question and ruddy seconding the claim request.
You're calling people town for questioning the claim while not questioning the claim.

It was literally a page of insanity and pro-scum commentary.

What did I miss?
Clue me in.

[Thor665]

Do you disagree with any of those in particular - feel free to call me out on them. But since I believe every comment there is factually true and also strongly defensible as 'not what town should do in this situation' I am perfectly fine getting to hear you explain why any of it was pro-town.

[TellTaleHeart]

None of it was pro-scum and I would think a few of them actually are more likely to come from town than not.

With the exception of mine. Mine's just an indication that I'm wallowing.

[Thor665]

Feel free to explain how they are pro-town or to ask me to justify why I read them as pro-scum - but your current comment is utterly empty as stands.

[Thor665]

While you're at it - please give your read on the Watcher claim.
You're still not doing that.

[GGG]

Sorry Thor I missed your question

Yesterday we were working on a lurker case for why we didn't have multiple kills. Munkir had gone quiet but you needed a second lurker for him to be scum with him. The only second lurker over night 2 was your slot. So day 1 droog loses his bulletproof, day 2 no kill is submitted because munk and Chris missed the deadline.

The problem with that is I found no link between ochris and munk so the idea of no kill submitted kind of died. I had munk as too bad to be scum.

As for CDb it was almost Christmas, everyone was lurking so we lynched someone. Not great play but the game was dying.

[Naomi-Tan]

Im thinking that there may be a JK role that may of prevented or a doc... but thats just my theory..

[TellTaleHeart]

While you're at it - please give your read on the Watcher claim.
You're still not doing that.

I have no reason to think it's not true, so Town until proven otherwise and pending the flip.

[Naomi-Tan]

While you're at it - please give your read on the Watcher claim.
You're still not doing that.

I have no reason to think it's not true, so Town until proven otherwise and pending the flip.

You know your play was terrible when people are suspicious of you AFTER getting a warewolf lynched with your role :I

[Whomping Willow]

Munkir was on site earlier today and failed to post, choo choo

[GGG]

VOTE: munkair

He was on site and didn't post. Naiomi would be stupid to fake this given shed gotten a lot of town cred from the DGB lynch.

[Thor665]

Yesterday we were working on a lurker case for why we didn't have multiple kills. Munkir had gone quiet but you needed a second lurker for him to be scum with him. The only second lurker over night 2 was your slot. So day 1 droog loses his bulletproof, day 2 no kill is submitted because munk and Chris missed the deadline.

The problem with that is I found no link between ochris and munk so the idea of no kill submitted kind of died. I had munk as too bad to be scum.

As for CDb it was almost Christmas, everyone was lurking so we lynched someone. Not great play but the game was dying.

Okay, so Droog claimed as bulletproof that had been hit Night 1? That would at least explain Willow's derpy push still (to some extent).

Who was the 'we' working on the lurk kill theory (because from my skim it was three of you - Droog, you, Willow, right?). I'm asking because I'm confused how that transitioned into the CDB lynch. It just...happened. It was really a strange lynch. It was also a strange lynch that involved none of your scum suspects. It doesn't feel logical to then still think those are the top scumspects, yeah? Or is your theory that they lurked out the lynch too...did they?

I checked - Munkir did not, so he was scum, catching a lot of conversation pressure, who didn't bother to vote the easy lynch. Okay, I can maybe buy that - but if he's scum I have to admit that basically every experience I have says he would only do that if his scumbuddy was already there.

I have no reason to think it's not true, so Town until proven otherwise and pending the flip.

Why do you not support it with a vote given that thought?

Also, I will admit I take the dropping, by you, of the pro-scum/pro-town conversation to b admittance that I was correct and it reenforces in my mind feeling of the flim-flam that I already suggested your comment was made of. You feel like you're trying to ride through the day - not participate. Why?

He was on site and didn't post. Naiomi would be stupid to fake this given shed gotten a lot of town cred from the DGB lynch.

Naomi would be stupid to fake this because barring a 3-man living scumteam it's not a winning strategem because she'd be lynched tomorrow.

[Whomping Willow]

Yesterday we were working on a lurker case for why we didn't have multiple kills. Munkir had gone quiet but you needed a second lurker for him to be scum with him. The only second lurker over night 2 was your slot. So day 1 droog loses his bulletproof, day 2 no kill is submitted because munk and Chris missed the deadline.

The problem with that is I found no link between ochris and munk so the idea of no kill submitted kind of died. I had munk as too bad to be scum.

As for CDb it was almost Christmas, everyone was lurking so we lynched someone. Not great play but the game was dying.

Okay, so Droog claimed as bulletproof that had been hit Night 1? That would at least explain Willow's derpy push still (to some extent).

No, and the lurking theory has 0 to do with why I'm pushing you, go and read my interaction with your predecessor d1 if you really care to know.

I hope at this point we can agree to speedlynch Munkir and Thor and win?

[Thor665]

For a guy claiming to have been pushing on me since Day 1 - your votes do not seem to support that.

How about re-stating the case to remind people of it?