I'm not a fucking servant. I'm in line of inheritance.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
kats
beast
Tammy
Kovara
notsci
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Gaiden
Honey
Equinox
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
kats
beast
Tammy
Kovara
notsci
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Nobody Special
Gaiden
Honey
Equinox
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
No I'm saying that Scum didn't know the fake name, which would fit into tinfoil two Scum Watcher theory.
List is Town/Not willing to lynch.
Willing to lynch.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
No one should have known the fake name before the game. There was no kill last night. It is possible scum tried to randomly shoot a name and chose the fake name.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
This is absolutely perfect timing (grin), but I'm going to request replacement. It probably hasn't been apparent here, but I've been having issues alternately with access and time, and it doesn't seem like that's going to change; it'd be better to have someone active than someone who's going to lurk for 2-3 days at a time.
Okay here are some things I was thinking about. I rarely ever look at vote counts, so I don't claim to be an expert here. But with the way this game has been going, rather inactive and Antihero not doing anything at all, it's kinda hard to pick up who would be working with him.
I looked back at the early day one vote counts though:
This is how the wagons looked early in the day. The beast wagon seems to have mainly come from the marquis/notscience push and choo choo, I guess. Something about a stick up the butt tell. Konowa originally just seems to be wagoning but later didn't like beast's 58
Notscience soon after gets off of beast and moves onto Marquis. (Unless we think that kovara/notscience are playing next level scum, this is something I'm not going to question as it's a town move, so *shrug*).
Notscience moving off makes the differential in the two wagons 4 for beast, 2 for ckd.
In the midst of this Equinox also moves off of beast and on to antihero. This makes the wagons 3 for beast, 2 for ckd.
Enter Antihero who came in and did literally nothing else but yell at ckd for voting him. He joins the antihero wagon, which makes the count look:
Here, they're now even. So, do I want to believe that Antihero came in, and ignored equinox, and voted the ckd wagon just because he was trying to look like an angry townie, or did he vote ckd, and have that angry townie reason, to help with the wagon that was more likely to go through and throw some weight on to ckd's wagon to help deflect from beast's wagon?
What's problematic for me is a couple things. Beast's move onto ckd here:
In post 447, Nobody Special wrote:I don't think it's all that dangerous, as I think Antihero and ckd are a team.
Don't you also think Marquis is scum? You think scum have 2 in a row in the line of inheritance?
Beast actively put down the antihero lynch, said he didn't understand it. My main problem with this is that he said in 58 that he would need antihero to town read him in order to win as scum. That would imply some level of experience with antihero. Anyone with some level of experience with antihero should have had a problem with antihero's play. Even when antihero is being a lazy fuck, his game play is levels above what it was here where he only stepped in to pitch a fit at ckd.
Now Beast will want to characterize this lynch as a policy lynch, which is wasn't not in the least. It reminds me of the time in Chef Mafia when I lead a lynch agains The Slimer and his partner tried to characterize it as a lurker lynch, when I actually had a meta tell on him. And to dismiss it as a policy lynch is silly regardless. When someone ignores a game, which is near deadline, while posting all over the site and not even bothering to check in or do anything, chances are really good that they're scum.
Here is the look of the day's wagon just before it started to shift:
Bert moved to vote ckd because in ABR he trusts, but he was a mason so that's whatever. Katsuki moved to ckd because he tried to negotiate a deal with ABR for ckd day one, beast day two. (I don't think he push beast day two. I wish I could feel better about katsuki town right now though :/)
kovara added to the beast wagon, and we have two on antihero.k,,,,,jm98 (Waffles helped there awe)
The next vote count shows a jump in the antihero wagon and the next couple show one more vote each:
So, at this point we have an antihero wagon that is greater than the ckd wagon.
But then for some reason, the wagon started falling apart. Equinox jumped off because she didn't like the speed of the wagon and then Bert jumped off and back to ckd. I can presume that Bert came back to the ckd wagon because ABR? Doesn't matter his reason though.
I have a reason to think equinox might be town, but additionally, Equinox is a crafty player and one who is totally not opposed to bussing, even in a white flag game, so I'm just not sure she jumps off the antihero wagon she would have presumably got on for distancing purposes and not go all the way if she decided to bus at that point. I mean it's not impossible, but it's one of the weaker moves to do as scum whereas it's more likely town, especially experienced, would maybe jump off because they were concerned they were on a mislynch wagon.
I hate not science's jump on the ckd wagon. Granted it was the largest wagon, but still. But he's apparently innocent so it's moot.
I'll work on not letting godfather paranoia to go somewhere right now
Equinox went back to Antihero, Equinox went back because largest wagon, I guess?
But here we get:
In post 483, Marquis wrote:Just landed. And in my experience with Antiscum the activity comments are legit. Equinox back on there please, it's better than ckd.
Literally just as Marquis asked equinox to get back on antihero, gaiden who didn't join the wagon earlier when bert asked him to decided to hammer. This is atrocious.
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From day one play - it looks like
godfather
notscience, beastcharizard, gaiden tried to save antihero.
Of the people who voted him and stayed on him and stayed on him day two that were likely to bus would be konowa or honeybee
On day two both konowa and honeybee voted antihero as well. Konowa pointed out equinox's jump back and forth but I don't remember him pointing out garden's terrible hammer, so could be exploiting a weakness? Though I kinda think that he wouldn't have insulted me for looking at the flavor day one if he were scum. I kinda think if anyone was bussing it was honeybee.
Neither Gaiden or beast voted antihero yesterday and we all know that beast kept trying to shift us to marquis even though he was marked for death. I really don't know what to make of that, but Gaiden's not doing anything in this game at all.
Anyway,
I have Kovara, begrudgingly not science and probably equinox as town. Konowa is probably town too. Oh I also liked my day one nobody special thing, but I wouldn't be the game on it. Would like to feel better about katsuki. Would lynch from Gaiden, Beast, honeybee right this minute though.
If anyone else is better at vca than I am, I'd love to hear interpretations from day one though.
Also, who is Sophia Norweld? There is noone by that name on the guest list, so I'm guessing she's a servant who has a name change? The butler being mafia has kinda thrown me off though. I would have thought it would be family members with maybe a servant as a traitor, but anti was a member of the mafia, so if there's a servant who has a servant name but is Sophia Norweld then it could be a servant or mostly servant thing? Or a mix of family and servant? IDK.
Adam Everley - Relation of ABR
Adrianna Copperfish - Related to antihero - the scum butler
Arcady Norweld
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Marquis
Aria Chatowic - Wife? of Matthew the groundskeeper who died night 0. I thought she was innocent, now not so sure.
Edicard Brennan - Relation of Stannia (beast)
Father Gregory - ???
Geneviere Norweld - Notscience
Jalen Norweld - katsuki - current hoh
Kevin Norweld
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Bert
Prie Everley
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ABR
Lukewill Norweld
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CKD
Lydia Norweld - ???
Neville Copperfish
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Antihero
Stannia Brennan - beastcharizard
Tirius Norweld - konowa
William Brennan - Relation of Stannia (beast)
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