My main point right now is that Formerfish I see as 100% town. Acryon, for other reasons that I won't discuss, is town. Varsoon vs Killer is an epic town vs town fight. I know I'm town. What does that leave from my perspective?
Acryon as other have said is town. Not I think he is town. Not he seems town. That guy is town.
Boon I am willing to believe is town for now because to do otherwise would mean other ramifications are evident.
Varsoon and Killer will work itself out.
Zeb is still doing basically nothing but defense.
We lynch Zeb, hope the game ends, if not then we wait to see what happens tonight. Go into tomorrow 3v1, decide if we go for a lynch of NL to force it to 2v1 and we have a better shot of winning this. Way I see it we have 3 as close to confirmed town as we are ever going to have.
Boon, just saying "accusations on me are laughable" does not make accusations on you laughable. Even if you're not trust telling (I'm giving it coin flip odds at this point) there are still pleenty of things scum about you:
You're troll hammer on Thor. Even though this helped town, you shouldn't troll hammer.
As you can see in this post, Boonskiies called me town when I was scumreading him.
In post 622, Boonskiies wrote:Xiao Long - null
Varsoon - town. I like how he's playing, even if I did feel a little tunneled.
Goblin - he's just hot headed townie.
Drake Crusader - null
Konowa - This could be the 3rd scum. I felt a little buddy-buddy with him and Thor; didn't scum read until Thor flipped goon.
Boonskiies - super town.
Zebulin - I think he's town. He hasn't been posting much, and I agree that I looked easily scummy, and for him to go on me was a super town move.
acryon - scum. He isn't voting me because he thinks I'm scum. I don't see a possibility where he is town. I get why town would vote me, but this isn't coming from a town perspective.
orcinus_theoriginal - town for now, but the explanation I said earlier could come back up.
BlueBloodedToffee - super town. listen to this guy.
gamsimbre - null
I didn't like how she came in, and just immediately started town reading the big wagons. That's a super easy way to feign town as scum, and I see it happen all the time.
The ridiculous and unnecessary vote of randomidget, who is confirmed town.
I didn't like how she came in, and just immediately started town reading the big wagons. That's a super easy way to feign town as scum, and I see it happen all the time.
More of an Allyra thing than you. Sorry you replaced into a scum slot. =/
In post 605, Boonskiies wrote:After I'm lynched, you guys should follow BBT. He somehow always manages to figure things out, and people don't listen to him. LISTEN TO BBT. I don't care if you lynch me. If you need to get me out of the way, then fine. Just listen to BBT after toDay.
VOTE: Acryon
And this guy is just sheeping and sprouting obvious fluff, and is policy lynching, not scum reading me.
In post 631, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:@Boon - Look at his D1 progression surrounding the Thor vs Allyra discussion. It reads insanely genuine and shows he is not afraid to re-evaluate his reads.
He was defending Thor. It would have been easy for him to continue doing so as scum.
It was day 1. Remember Anatole Kuragin in Dr Pepper when the wagons were You vs Me? He was my scum partner there too.
@Acyron - Konowa was my only leaning scum read.
@Orc - yeah, and now his whole perspective on voting me is basically a Policy Lynch.
VOTE: Konowa
In post 915, Boonskiies wrote:After thinking about it, I could actually see a BBT/Konowa/Thor scum team. I'll go back to this.
VOTE: Konowa
Not for what Varsoon is quoting, but just because I can see Konowa being scum.
In post 1035, Boonskiies wrote:Drake's last post hit me in a weird kind of way. I'm scum reading him now because of it. I'm unsure whether or not it was because it was him targeting me though. Either way, I don't have anything else to push on Orc besides guy, so might as well jump on another scum read.
VOTE: Drake
Also, why the hell do I think everyone can potentially be scum, god damn.
Self-vote. Anti-town.
Spoiler: Source
In post 883, Boonskiies wrote:I always do totally random/make people question their town reads kills as scum. Anyways, I'm getting kind of irritated and done with this game, especially because I'm not important at all in this game, so Imma join the wagon.
VOTE: Boonskiies
His posts don't have much substance to them. No walls, no serious looks at players, an average of about 2 lines.
In post 1269, Boonskiies wrote:Btw, Zeb, I read your post. If you really want me to do a huge list of the reasons I think you're scum, I'll do it later...probably.
And, of course, the most important reason I have for suspecting Boonskiies:
Spoiler: The most important reason
In post 1250, Boonskiies wrote:Great play, BBT. Thank you for shooting Konowa. (assuming he did last night with his JOAT).
In post 1591, Zebulin wrote:VOTE: Boonskiies Still think he's the scummiest, for all the reasons prior.
Alright
, so I'm thinkig the last scum is Boonskiies or killerjester.
I don't think Acryon or Varsoon are the last scum, as they are both gut townreads, and Formerfish seems to be the most active and contributing, so I don't think he's scum either. KJ has been inactive, but I don't think that's enough by itself to be lynched. Boonskiies has been scummy all game.
Formerfish: I'm pretty sure anyone would've killed Orc in the night, he was basically conf town after both Thor and Xiao hating him and then dying.
He thinks it's either me or killer, and there's a wagon on killer, and he chooses to vote me. I don't see how it's not Zebulin.
VOTE: Zebulin
In post 1661, Boonskiies wrote:Varsoon/killer/Myself/Former. Lynch Zebulin with me, PLEASE. I'd much prefer it to Killer.
VOTE: Zebulin
Killer, prove you are town to me. You say you want Varsoon or Zebulin, I'll meet you in the middle.
Former, your biggest scum reads are Killer and Zebulin, there is no reason not to vote Zebulin.
Varsoon...I just trust you for some reason, man.
Also, Zebulin is totally playing up buddy buddy with Acryon.
Everything you just said is only half of everything I'm doing. I've pretty much voted everyone in this game, so that argument is flawed. When do I ever do wall posts? Argument flawed. That self vote thing is the reason trust telling is being brought up. Arg Flawed. I've never buddied my scum buddies before, why would I start in this game? That argument flawed. And lastly, me voting you is super town because you are scum.
Also, I disagree with the refusal to defend being anti-town. Scum try harder to try and defend themselves because they have to, and they feel more pressure because they are scum. A la...you.
Ideal play from Killer scum would be to lynch either Zebulin or myself, and then after the slot flips town, turn on the other one. That's why Killer's not scum. Pushing you at this point doesn't make sense. Varsoon won't be getting lynched today. You both are epic tunneling.
In post 1703, Boonskiies wrote:Everything you just said is only half of everything I'm doing. I've pretty much voted everyone in this game, so that argument is flawed. When do I ever do wall posts? Argument flawed. That self vote thing is the reason trust telling is being brought up. Arg Flawed. I've never buddied my scum buddies before, why would I start in this game? That argument flawed. And lastly, me voting you is super town because you are scum.
Just because you don't wall posts, vote everyone and self vote does not mean that those things are not scumtells, effort is not indicative of alignment, and the last point was sarcasm (all blue text is sarcasm fyi).
I'm done writing really long answers to stuff right now, that one post took over an hour.
I'm actually almost clearing Killer completely after thinking all of this over. Varsoon might be taking his place, because even though the same thing for killer could be said about Varsoon, I could see Varsoon not wanting to do that. Especially after:
In post 1707, Varsoon wrote:Killer can't do that--it'd be too obvious when they flip town.
In post 1705, Boonskiies wrote:Also, I disagree with the refusal to defend being anti-town. Scum try harder to try and defend themselves because they have to, and they feel more pressure because they are scum. A la...you.
As a great man once screamed, EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENT.
Effort is not indicative in alignment completely contradicts your argument against me for not defending myself as well. Me not defending myself is me putting no effort in that defense. Effort is not indicative of alignment, right? You are looking for any means to get a false case on me. You are turning little pointless things into 'reasons why I'm scum', and in turn, you are becoming more and more scummier by the second.
See, there's a differense between "not trying hard" and "not posting a defense". I know you're not trying hard, and I'm fine with that (beats lurking), but you should at least have the time to respond to my hourlong post rationally instead of accusing me of a false case. My case is real. It's on your screen. Go read it.
Varsoon, acryon, Formerfish, killerjester: What are your thought on the Boon/Me argument?
Formerfish: I am, since this is a closed setup and it tells scum the power roles. If this was a open setup I'd be in favor of it.
Listen. Since we all know our own alignments, and we are pretty much all saying Acryon is town, figuring out what else we have out there could help us narrow this down a little more.
Maybe we should have acryon make the call. If he's a power role we might as well do it because he'll die anyway, and if he's vanilla we can call it off so a power role doesn't die. If acryon is a power role I don't think it will influence scum's choice anyway.
PEdit: You just posted exactly what I was going to say. Also, I don't want to be lynched. Why do you want me lynched?
