(Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia 2 [Over]

[Awesome]

Because traditional cops don't get communist. They get town or scum.

Pine is cop fishing (single or multiball), alignment fishing possibily (multiball), or going for wifom toen with bullshit. Millers must get a guilty result when investigated. That's a miller. Getting a vague result is not a miller but an ascetic.

Um no.

Cops here aren't only going to get town or scum. Pine's claim is most probably real.

If you target an ascetic you don't get a vague result, you get no result. An ascetic can not be targeted because they are a reflexive role blocker.

[DrippingGoofball]

You claimed to Thor in crosstown you knew how to read my emotions.

OK you're town.

Klingon is town too.

[Awesome]

Awesome having a nutty about Mollie not doing XYZ is a great way to produce content without doing any scumhunting at all.

[mastin2]

Obviously a bit preoccupied so no VC here now but there will be.

Tenth Votecount

:

Eddie Fenix - 8 (Bulbazak, eyestott, Pirate Ika, Wisdom, farside22, Jackel98, Toon Fighter, Alchemist21)

Nobody Special - 2 (Fluminator, Klingoncelt)

farside22 - 2 (Ankamius, guille2015)
Awesome - 2 (Muffin, alivechihiro)
eyestott - 1 (Titus)
Ankamius - 1 (ProHawk)
Fluminator - 1 (BlizZard)
Wisdom - 1 (Nobody Special)
alivechihiro - 1 (PeregrineV)
ProHawk - 1 (Frightened inmate number3)

Not Voting: 7 (Mathdino, DrippingGoofBall, shos, ArcAngel9, Pine, Awesome, EddieFenix)

With

27

alive, it's

14

to lynch.

Day One's deadline is Thursday, January 29th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2015-01-29 16:15:00).

At Deadline,

EddieFenix

would be lynched.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

⁽⁺¹⁾

EddieFenix - 8 (Bulbazak, eyestott, Pirate Ika, Wisdom, farside22, Jackel98, Toon Fighter,

Alchemist21

)

₍₌₀₎

Nobody Special - 2 (Fluminator, Klingoncelt)

₍₌₀₎

farside22 - 2 (Ankamius, guille2015)

_(-2)

Titus - 0 (

Frightened inmate number3

,

Alchemist21

)

₍₌₀₎

Awesome - 2 (Muffin, alivechihiro)

⁽⁼⁰⁾

eyestott - 1 (Titus)

₍₌₀₎

Ankamius - 1 (ProHawk)

₍₌₀₎

Fluminator - 1 (BlizZard)

₍₌₀₎

Wisdom - 1 (Nobody Special)

⁽⁼⁰⁾

alivechihiro - 1 (PeregrineV)

⁽⁺¹⁾

ProHawk - 1 (

Frightened inmate number3

)

⁽⁼⁰⁾

Not Voting - 7 (Mathdino, DrippingGoofBall, shos, ArcAngel9, Pine, Awesome, EddieFenix)

Last votecount was page 19, post 462.

Spoiler: Player Vote History D1

EddieFenix:

Ankamius->>>unvote

Mathdino:

DrippingGoofBall:

Bulbazak:

Fluminator-->>EddieFenix

guille2015:

Toon Fighter-->farside22

Pirate Ika:

Titus

==>farside22==>EddieFenix==>Awesome=>>>Unvote==>Titus==>EddieFenix

Nobody Special:

Wisdom

shos:

Awesome:

BlizZard

-->Muffin==>Pirate Ika->>>unvote

ArcAngel9:

eyestott:

EddieFenix

==>eyestott

Pine:

Muffin:

Ankamius

==>>Awesome

Klingoncelt:

Nobody Special

alivechihiro:

Pirate Ika

==>>Awesome

Alchemist21:

Fluminator

==>Titus==>EddieFenix

Frightened inmate number3:

Titus-->ProHawk

Toon Fighter:

Nobody Special-->EddieFenix

BlizZard:

Frightened inmate number3-->Fluminator

PeregrineV:

alivechihiro

Jackel98:

Wisdom

==>>Pine==>EddieFenix

Ankamius:

shos

==>>farside22

Wisdom:

Titus

==>farside22==>EddieFenix

Fluminator:

Nobody Special

==>Alchemist21==>>Nobody Special

ProHawk:

Pirate Ika

==>Ankamius

Titus:

farside22

==>Pine==>eyestott

farside22:

Ankamius-->EddieFenix

Spoiler: Voting Chronology for D1

On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 04:09p,

Wisdom

Votes

Titus

in post 49.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 04:23p,

Bulbazak

votes

Fluminator

in post 52.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 04:34p,

Nobody Special

Votes

Wisdom

in post 53.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 04:43p,

Fluminator

Votes

Nobody Special

in post 58.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 04:48p,

Ankamius

Votes

shos

in post 62.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 03:57p,

Pirate Ika

Votes

Titus

in post 64.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 05:29p,

EddieFenix

votes

Ankamius

in post 81.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 05:37p,

Awesome

Votes

BlizZard

in post 86.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 05:44p,

Muffin

Votes

Ankamius

in post 87.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 05:47p,

Jackel98

Votes

Wisdom

in post 90.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 06:07p,

Frightened inmate number3

votes

Titus

in post 97.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 06:11p,

Awesome

votes

Muffin

in post 98.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 06:12p,

ProHawk

Votes

Pirate Ika

in post 99.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 06:30p,

BlizZard

votes

Frightened inmate number3

in post 103.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 06:31p,

alivechihiro

Votes

Pirate Ika

in post 104.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 07:11p,

Alchemist21

Votes

Fluminator

in post 116.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 08:07p,

guille2015

votes

Toon Fighter

in post 125.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 08:46p,

Titus

Votes

farside22

in post 139.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 09:17p,

Ankamius

Unvotes

shos

and Votes

farside22

in post 141.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 09:25p,

Pirate Ika

Votes

farside22

in post 142.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 04:06a,

guille2015

votes

farside22

in post 155.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 05:49a,

Wisdom

Votes

farside22

in post 158.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 06:06a,

farside22

votes

Ankamius

in post 162.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 06:55p,

Titus

Votes

Pine

in post 166.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 08:56a,

PeregrineV

votes

alivechihiro

in post 185.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 10:25a,

Fluminator

Votes

Alchemist21

in post 195.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 10:28a,

Alchemist21

Votes

Titus

in post 196.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 11:38a,

Muffin

Unvotes

(

Ankamius

)

, and Votes

Awesome

in post 211.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 11:40a,

Fluminator

Unvotes

(

Alchemist21

)

, and Votes

Nobody Special

in post 212.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 12:44p,

Jackel98

Unvotes

Wisdom

and Votes

Pine

in post 217.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 03:04p,

BlizZard

votes

Fluminator

in post 229.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 03:40p,

alivechihiro

Unvotes

(

Pirate Ika

)

, and Votes

Awesome

in post 235.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 05:19p,

Bulbazak

unvotes

(

Fluminator

)

, and votes

EddieFenix

in post 257.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 07:21p,

ProHawk

Votes

Ankamius

in post 269.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 07:36p,

Klingoncelt

Votes

Nobody Special

in post 271.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 10:06p,

Pirate Ika

Votes

EddieFenix

in post 278.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 10:31p,

Awesome

Votes

Pirate Ika

in post 298.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 10:52p,

Pirate Ika

Votes

Awesome

in post 316.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 11:12p,

Pirate Ika

Unvotes

(

Awesome

)

in post 329.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 11:14p,

Awesome

unvotes

(

Pirate Ika

)

in post 330.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 11:47p,

Pirate Ika

Votes

Titus

in post 340.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 11:52p,

eyestott

Votes

EddieFenix

in post 342.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 12:11a,

Pirate Ika

Votes

EddieFenix

in post 348.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 03:32a,

Wisdom

Votes

EddieFenix

in post 366.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 07:37a,

farside22

votes

EddieFenix

in post 385.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 08:36a,

EddieFenix

unvotes

(

Ankamius

)

in post 391.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 08:58a,

Jackel98

Votes

eyestott

in post 395.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 09:24a,

Toon Fighter

votes

Nobody Special

in post 402.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 09:32a,

Titus

Votes

eyestott

in post 404.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 01:41p,

Jackel98

Votes

EddieFenix

in post 460.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 03:59p,

Toon Fighter

votes

EddieFenix

in post 466.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 05:39p,

Frightened inmate number3

votes

ProHawk

in post 510.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 05:43p,

Alchemist21

Votes

EddieFenix

in post 511.

Edit:

Now up.

[Awesome]

OH I think I see something. Eddie might be town.

[Awesome]

I am fairly confident that Absolute is town, despite Tammy not saying she is obv-town.

Awesome, but damn now with my love of vodka I believe I need to register the name Absolut for an impending hydra.

Me saying I'm obvtown has kind of become a null tell and is something I don't say unless it organically fits in the conversation. I have said I'm going to be obvtown enough though :p

You might be town though! You feel more like our town games, and I kinda think that you'd not pass up the chance to frustrate me when you had so much fun at it last time you were scum.

[Klingoncelt]

OH I think I see something. Eddie might be town.

Unless it's a fakeclaim.

[Awesome]

Hey Flum, how about you explain why you don't think mafia would claim miller in a game pretty much guaranteed to have a miller in the game?

Also not liking your response to why you think NS could be scum. You originally mentioned that NS doesn't do RVS which I actually remember, yet he participated in RVS this game. That would have been a natural response as to why you are scum reading him, but instead you come back with a reason of you are able to read him?

I don’t see the scum motive in claiming miller. Is there a site meta about this type of thing?

There are some people who have claimed miller as scum. In part to avoid investigations...in part because scum just wouldn't claim miller. In Quickness, Scum!Perpetual Nonsense fake claimed miller and made it to endgame with people thinking they were town based on the claim alone. Salamance20 has twice (that I know of) has fake claimed miller and made it to endgame with people thinking they were town based on the claim alone.

In all of these instances, scum won in part because of the miller claim. In fact, it's something that has become somewhat common right now.

[Awesome]

If you can confirm a cop in some way, which in this game it's possibly possible, they're pretty important. Anyways, I'd say it'd be better to claim miller in your first post, or so. More credible that way, as opposed to randomly saying it somewhere in the middle of the game.

Well it depends on a variety of things and not everyone believes this way, but this is more a mafia theory discussion.

[Voidedmafia]

VC HIJACK! (so Mastin doesn't have to)

Night Votecount

:

Eddie Fenix - 8 (Bulbazak, eyestott, Pirate Ika, Wisdom, farside22, Jackel98, Toon Fighter, Alchemist21)

Nobody Special - 2 (Fluminator, Klingoncelt)

farside22 - 2 (Ankamius, guille2015)
Awesome - 2 (Muffin, alivechihiro)
eyestott - 1 (Titus)
Ankamius - 1 (ProHawk)
Fluminator - 1 (BlizZard)
Wisdom - 1 (Nobody Special)
alivechihiro - 1 (PeregrineV)
ProHawk - 1 (Frightened inmate number3)

Not Voting: 7 (Mathdino, DrippingGoofBall, shos, ArcAngel9, Pine, Awesome, EddieFenix)

With

27

alive, it's

14

to lynch.

Day One's deadline is Thursday, January 29th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2015-01-29 16:15:00).

At Deadline,

EddieFenix

would be lynched.

The voting error with EddieFenix has also been fixed, as Jackel should be the one voting.

<<< Good job filling in, Voided, but you missed a spot.
Toon Fighter cast a legitimate vote on EddieFenix, and this VC has been edited to reflect that fact. >>>

[Jackel98]

ika, let's talk setup.
Mafia group names. Do you reckon theyre all different political groups with negative connotations? Eg Communist, Fascist, Nazi, Dictatorship, along those lines? Do you believe there is a Communist group?

Why would you make this guess at the time? I only saw the communist miller bit and Eddie asking about the role possibly being fascist, not communist. If those are only two (that I saw) and one was a side comment, although now confirmed-ish to exist, why make the connection?

If you're still around, could you answer this?

[Awesome]

Okay so early town reads: Wisdom, Pirate Ika (truth be told that Ika said something last night that was really town, but I was frustrated but mollie's response to me sounds legit), BlizZard, ProHawk, P5, Farside (I see no reason for scum!farside to try to get me not to argue with mollie when that could be a great distraction and the way she did it didn't sound like scum wking/mediating)

Town millers - Ankamius, Pine (There is something I have concern about here but I'm going to squash it for now because mastin's lolunbalanced game of fun and I guess anything is possible. I'll probably talk about this later. But nobody should be scum reading here because the miller claims don't sound traditional or what not.)

Scum: Muffin, anchovie, toonfighter, shos

I probably wouldn't hate an eddie lynch but I really can't tell if he's scum digging himself a hole or if he's newb town digging himself a hole.

[Awesome]

(Oh forgot, townish read on bulbazack. Hate his muffin read though.)

[Ankamius]

@Frightened inmate number3:

Spoiler:

Exactly. I'm on the hunt, along with the other townies, for scum in this game. However, I'll be hunting 1 group in particular.

Scum is scum.

This also feels forced.

Could be both. If you are town, there shouldn't be any reason for you to focus on any scum in particular.

I'm looking for your thoughts on recent happenings Ankamius.

Flum, you seriously don't see the scum motive to claim miller? Seriously? If town believes scum claiming miller, cop investigations against him/her/it/e/them are useless.

This. Plus anyone remotely familiar with this game, or has done some research should know that millers would be a role town is given.

lastly we say this is obviously the mafia
please see how obvious this is

vote pro hawk

Can you explain what's wrong with those posts? I get the opposite impression, if anything.

[Ankamius]

UNVOTE: farside22
VOTE: Klingoncelt

Whee~

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE: farside22
VOTE: Klingoncelt

Whee~

Hi, Ank!

UNVOTE: Nobody Special

VOTE: EddieFenix

[Ankamius]

Hi!

Is this your scumgame I'm seeing?

[Klingoncelt]

Hi!

Is this your scumgame I'm seeing?

Oooh, sorry, no. My scumgame blows.

[Awesome]

For those voting NS for rvs, I just looked back at a couple of our most recent game together and in lurker mafia he didn't rvs as scum, he did as town in castle zar, and he didn't as town in fantasy camp. So, it's inconclusive. Anyway, I think I might be able to get a decent read on him once he starts posting.

[Pirate Ika]

I purposefully reached out to you in the same way you reached out to me in quickness. I thought that I get some type of reaction or acknowledgement that would help me get a read on you. I hoped you would react to me the same way I reacted to you in quickness because we found each other so fast there and were able to work together (or we would have, I died too soon.). I posited you'd get paranoid for me doing the same thing, but that was good for me too because I thought I'd be able to read your paranoia and get a read on you from there.

I don't know why you thought I was being weird as I feel really good and present this game. I may not find scum immediately this game, but I also know there's a driving force that will let my alignment shine through and I'm not worried about any early weird feelings. Though, if I did say something you thought was weird, I'd have loved for you to point it out and ask me about it. I mean I get day3 rule (sort of, and I made it clear that I wasn't sure what it was, and then I asked you not to do it because Bert did that in Quickness when he was scum and I think he basically did that because he doesn't know how to interact with me naturally when he's scum and he'd rather not if he can get away with it. In Tales when he was scum in a hydra with Mara he pretended to be here because he didn't know how to interact.). If you thought something was weird, I'm not going to get mad. I don't mind answering questions or being scum hunted. I don't like being nitpicked at from people who claim to know how to read me. But, if you thought I was being weird and you were scum hunting me that would mean that you were trying to read me and I'd be able to read you from that.

I mean I do understand giving me space until day three because in part I do think that's a better way to read me. I'm glad you know why I got paranoid. You're one of the few people here that I feel like I could confidently get an early read on, and I thought if I could get an early read that would be one thing down and I'd have someone else to bounce thoughts off of.

<3<3<3

see i remember that game differently than you, I just remember going "tammy I don't wanna fight with you can we not do that this game" and you said that you didn't wanna fight with me either and then we never did.

so now that we have got each other sorted we can get some work done.

I am skipping up to your readslist:

Okay so early town reads: Wisdom, Pirate Ika (truth be told that Ika said something last night that was really town, but I was frustrated but mollie's response to me sounds legit), BlizZard, ProHawk, P5, Farside (I see no reason for scum!farside to try to get me not to argue with mollie when that could be a great distraction and the way she did it didn't sound like scum wking/mediating)

Town millers - Ankamius, Pine (There is something I have concern about here but I'm going to squash it for now because mastin's lolunbalanced game of fun and I guess anything is possible. I'll probably talk about this later. But nobody should be scum reading here because the miller claims don't sound traditional or what not.)

Scum: Muffin, anchovie, toonfighter, shos

I probably wouldn't hate an eddie lynch but I really can't tell if he's scum digging himself a hole or if he's newb town digging himself a hole.

agree with townreads on wis, bulba, blizzard and far. (I see you put in bulba in the following post). I think pine is likely telling the truth. not sure about ank yet.

agree about scumshos but i don't know the other 3. I can kinda see it with toon. i need to check in our pt but I am not happy with titus right now. I honestly can't tell if those inmate things are useless trolls or newbscum overplaying their card. that they even asked why wld titus lie shows that not only do they know titus but that they don't seem to know a whole lot about the game.

[Ankamius]

Hi!

Is this your scumgame I'm seeing?

Oooh, sorry, no. My scumgame blows.

So basically... IIoA?

[Muffin]

Some quickie notes.

Town

guille is town.
pirate ika is town.
Muffin is town.
Alchemist is town.
Fluminator is town. But maybe ProHawk is right?

Bulbazak not so town, but prob town.
Pine is probably town.
Wisdom, prob town.
EddieFenix prob town
ProHawk's post 269 is terrible but prob town

Titus is town UNTIL #282 "Is anyone fucking town this game?" But maybe justified. Mmm.

BlizZard I have no idea.

Scum

Awesome is derpy. Maybe scum. I don't know. But derpy for sure. I don't like post 249. Used the word 'paranoia' in 265.
farside > but improving somewhat
Jackel99
Ankamius
FIN3

You claimed to Thor in crosstown you knew how to read my emotions.

OK you're town.

Klingon is town too.

Hopefully you're just trolling because I don't think massive appeals to emotion like 522 and 521 should constitute grounds to flip a read on its head like that.

[Awesome]

Mollie - I'll respond in a few. I'm in the middle of something.

Muffin - You gonna comment on the rest of the game or do you think tunneling on me for no reason at all is somehow going to get you through? (Also, in the realm of AtE from me, those posts are downright stoic.)

[Klingoncelt]

Hi!

Is this your scumgame I'm seeing?

Oooh, sorry, no. My scumgame blows.

So basically... IIoA?

What do you mean?

I usually don't have much to say on Day 1. I don't know half the players in this game, so I'm doing what interacting I can, picking up little clues and vibes as I go along.

Like you, Pine, and Alchemist being the Communist team.

[Awesome]

I purposefully reached out to you in the same way you reached out to me in quickness. I thought that I get some type of reaction or acknowledgement that would help me get a read on you. I hoped you would react to me the same way I reacted to you in quickness because we found each other so fast there and were able to work together (or we would have, I died too soon.). I posited you'd get paranoid for me doing the same thing, but that was good for me too because I thought I'd be able to read your paranoia and get a read on you from there.

I don't know why you thought I was being weird as I feel really good and present this game. I may not find scum immediately this game, but I also know there's a driving force that will let my alignment shine through and I'm not worried about any early weird feelings. Though, if I did say something you thought was weird, I'd have loved for you to point it out and ask me about it. I mean I get day3 rule (sort of, and I made it clear that I wasn't sure what it was, and then I asked you not to do it because Bert did that in Quickness when he was scum and I think he basically did that because he doesn't know how to interact with me naturally when he's scum and he'd rather not if he can get away with it. In Tales when he was scum in a hydra with Mara he pretended to be here because he didn't know how to interact.). If you thought something was weird, I'm not going to get mad. I don't mind answering questions or being scum hunted. I don't like being nitpicked at from people who claim to know how to read me. But, if you thought I was being weird and you were scum hunting me that would mean that you were trying to read me and I'd be able to read you from that.

I mean I do understand giving me space until day three because in part I do think that's a better way to read me. I'm glad you know why I got paranoid. You're one of the few people here that I feel like I could confidently get an early read on, and I thought if I could get an early read that would be one thing down and I'd have someone else to bounce thoughts off of.

<3<3<3

see i remember that game differently than you, I just remember going "tammy I don't wanna fight with you can we not do that this game" and you said that you didn't wanna fight with me either and then we never did.

so now that we have got each other sorted we can get some work done.

There was more! You even got bummed at me because I opted to play video games one day and didn't discuss reads with me. Then I died night one. I probably just have a clearer memory because I died so early. I tend to remember the days up until my death better.

I am skipping up to your readslist:

Okay so early town reads: Wisdom, Pirate Ika (truth be told that Ika said something last night that was really town, but I was frustrated but mollie's response to me sounds legit), BlizZard, ProHawk, P5, Farside (I see no reason for scum!farside to try to get me not to argue with mollie when that could be a great distraction and the way she did it didn't sound like scum wking/mediating)

Town millers - Ankamius, Pine (There is something I have concern about here but I'm going to squash it for now because mastin's lolunbalanced game of fun and I guess anything is possible. I'll probably talk about this later. But nobody should be scum reading here because the miller claims don't sound traditional or what not.)

Scum: Muffin, anchovie, toonfighter, shos

I probably wouldn't hate an eddie lynch but I really can't tell if he's scum digging himself a hole or if he's newb town digging himself a hole.

agree with townreads on wis, bulba, blizzard and far. (I see you put in bulba in the following post). I think pine is likely telling the truth. not sure about ank yet.

agree about scumshos but i don't know the other 3. I can kinda see it with toon. i need to check in our pt but I am not happy with titus right now. I honestly can't tell if those inmate things are useless trolls or newbscum overplaying their card. that they even asked why wld titus lie shows that not only do they know titus but that they don't seem to know a whole lot about the game.

Why don't you see it with toon? I'll have to admit he's partially here because early espy read, but him literally finding a way to OMGUS us, which does not feel natural, and then ignore the entire game and bsing to tunnel on us does not feel right. He literally claimed I argued with you in order to not Scumhunt, though that was tangential and I had put other info in the game. Also he argued with dgb's reversal of read due to ate, again ignoring every single thing I put into the thread including the interaction between the two of us, to disagree with dgb. Why not disagree with you who thought the same thing? If that's how he really felt? I don't think the scum read comes from a sincere place. He reminds me of the time Scumhunter tunneled on me because tunneling on a strong town member makes scum look town. And he's ignoring the rest of the game.

Which leads me to my scum reD on anchovies who also ignored the whole game to jump on a poor point and join our wagon. One if not both are scum.

I really don't like the points I raised about toon fighter. I'd have felt tons better about him if he voted us in that post and hated the way he felt like he was trying to draw connections between several people but not really. (Okay this wording doesn't make much sense, I explained it better earlier but I'm tired.)

Titus I'm up in the air with. She's doing her not make a lick of sense tell (no offense Titus I <3 you) but it also sounds a bit forced like she's trying to emulate her doesn't make sense as town thing.