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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:02 am

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Gonna leave for home. Work's done, though, so VC in...oh, about 40 minutes or so.
Seventeenth Votecount
:
Klingoncelt - 6 (Ankamius, alivechihiro, EddieFenix, ProHawk, eyestott, Toon Fighter)

Toon Fighter - 5 (Fluminator, farside22, Wisdom, Frightened inmate number3, Titus)

Titus - 2 (Alchemist21, Nobody Special)
Eddie Fenix - 2 (Bulbazak, Klingoncelt)
Muffin - 2 (Awesome, Pirate Ika)
Awesome - 1 (Muffin)
farside22 - 1 (guille2015)
alivechihiro - 1 (PeregrineV)
shos - 1 (BlizZard)
eyestott - 1 (shos)
Frightened inmate number3 - 1 (Jackel98)

Not Voting: 4 (Mathdino, DrippingGoofBall, ArcAngel9, Pine)

With
27
alive, it's
14
to lynch.

Day One's deadline is Thursday, January 29th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2015-01-29 16:15:00).

At Deadline,
Klingoncelt
would be lynched.

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Spoiler: Changes from last votecount
(+1)
Klingoncelt - 6 (Ankamius, Alivechihiro, EddieFenix, ProHawk, eyestott,
Toon Fighter
)
(=0)
Toon Fighter - 5 (Fluminator, farside22, Wisdom, Frightened inmate number3, Titus)
(=0)
Titus - 2 (Alchemist21, Nobody Special)
(=0)
EddieFenix - 2 (Bulbazak, Klingoncelt)
(=0)
Muffin - 2 (Awesome, Pirate Ika)
(=0)
Awesome - 1 (Muffin)
(=0)
farside22 - 1 (guille2015)
(=0)
alivechihiro - 1 (PeregrineV)
(=0)
shos - 1 (BlizZard)
(=0)
eyestott - 1 (shos)
(=0)
Frightened inmate number3 - 1 (Jackel98)

(-1)
Not Voting - 4 (Mathdino, DrippingGoofBall, ArcAngel9, Pine,
Toon Fighter
)
Last votecount was page 37, post 904.
Spoiler: Player Vote History D1
EddieFenix:
Ankamius->>>unvote-->Klingoncelt
Mathdino:

DrippingGoofBall:

Bulbazak:
Fluminator-->>EddieFenix
guille2015:
Toon Fighter-->farside22
Pirate Ika:
Titus
==>farside22==>EddieFenix==>Awesome=>>>Unvote==>Titus==>EddieFenix==>Muffin
Nobody Special:
Wisdom
-->>Titus
shos:
PeregrineV
==>eyestott
Awesome:
BlizZard
-->Muffin==>Pirate Ika->>>unvote-->Muffin
ArcAngel9:

eyestott:
EddieFenix
==>eyestott=>>>Unvote
Pine:

Muffin:
Ankamius
==>>Awesome
Klingoncelt:
Nobody Special
==>>EddieFenix==>Klingoncelt
alivechihiro:
Pirate Ika
==>>Awesome==>>Klingoncelt
Alchemist21:
Fluminator
==>Titus==>EddieFenix==>Titus
Frightened inmate number3:
Titus-->ProHawk-->Titus-->Toon fighter
Toon Fighter:
Nobody Special-->EddieFenix->>>unvote==>Klingoncelt
BlizZard:
Frightened inmate number3-->Fluminator-->shos
PeregrineV:
alivechihiro
Jackel98:
Wisdom
==>>Pine==>EddieFenix==>Frightened inmate number3
Ankamius:
shos
==>>farside22==>>Klingoncelt
Wisdom:
Titus
==>farside22==>EddieFenix=>>>Unvote==>Klingoncelt==>>Toon Fighter
Fluminator:
Nobody Special
==>Alchemist21==>>Nobody Special==>Toon Fighter
ProHawk:
Pirate Ika
==>Ankamius==>Klingoncelt
Titus:
farside22
==>Pine==>eyestott==>Pine->>>unvote==>Toon Fighter
farside22:
Ankamius-->EddieFenix-->Toon Fighter
Spoiler: Voting Chronology for D1
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 04:09p,
Wisdom
Votes
Titus
in post 49.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 04:23p,
Bulbazak
votes
Fluminator
in post 52.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 04:34p,
Nobody Special
Votes
Wisdom
in post 53.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 04:43p,
Fluminator
Votes
Nobody Special
in post 58.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 04:48p,
Ankamius
Votes
shos
in post 62.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 03:57p,
Pirate Ika
Votes
Titus
in post 64.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 05:29p,
EddieFenix
votes
Ankamius
in post 81.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 05:37p,
Awesome
Votes
BlizZard
in post 86.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 05:44p,
Muffin
Votes
Ankamius
in post 87.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 05:47p,
Jackel98
Votes
Wisdom
in post 90.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 06:07p,
Frightened inmate number3
votes
Titus
in post 97.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 06:11p,
Awesome
votes
Muffin
in post 98.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 06:12p,
ProHawk
Votes
Pirate Ika
in post 99.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 06:30p,
BlizZard
votes
Frightened inmate number3
in post 103.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 06:31p,
alivechihiro
Votes
Pirate Ika
in post 104.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 07:11p,
Alchemist21
Votes
Fluminator
in post 116.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 08:07p,
guille2015
votes
Toon Fighter
in post 125.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 08:46p,
Titus
Votes
farside22
in post 139.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 09:17p,
Ankamius
Unvotes
shos
and Votes
farside22
in post 141.
On Thu, Jan 01/08/15 @ 09:25p,
Pirate Ika
Votes
farside22
in post 142.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 04:06a,
guille2015
votes
farside22
in post 155.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 05:49a,
Wisdom
Votes
farside22
in post 158.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 06:06a,
farside22
votes
Ankamius
in post 162.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 06:55p,
Titus
Votes
Pine
in post 166.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 08:56a,
PeregrineV
votes
alivechihiro
in post 185.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 10:25a,
Fluminator
Votes
Alchemist21
in post 195.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 10:28a,
Alchemist21
Votes
Titus
in post 196.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 11:38a,
Muffin
Unvotes
(
Ankamius
)
, and Votes
Awesome
in post 211.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 11:40a,
Fluminator
Unvotes
(
Alchemist21
)
, and Votes
Nobody Special
in post 212.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 12:44p,
Jackel98
Unvotes
Wisdom
and Votes
Pine
in post 217.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 03:04p,
BlizZard
votes
Fluminator
in post 229.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 03:40p,
alivechihiro
Unvotes
(
Pirate Ika
)
, and Votes
Awesome
in post 235.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 05:19p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
(
Fluminator
)
, and votes
EddieFenix
in post 257.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 07:21p,
ProHawk
Votes
Ankamius
in post 269.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 07:36p,
Klingoncelt
Votes
Nobody Special
in post 271.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 10:06p,
Pirate Ika
Votes
EddieFenix
in post 278.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 10:31p,
Awesome
Votes
Pirate Ika
in post 298.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 10:52p,
Pirate Ika
Votes
Awesome
in post 316.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 11:12p,
Pirate Ika
Unvotes
(
Awesome
)
in post 329.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 11:14p,
Awesome
unvotes
(
Pirate Ika
)
in post 330.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 11:47p,
Pirate Ika
Votes
Titus
in post 340.
On Fri, Jan 01/09/15 @ 11:52p,
eyestott
Votes
EddieFenix
in post 342.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 12:11a,
Pirate Ika
Votes
EddieFenix
in post 348.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 03:32a,
Wisdom
Votes
EddieFenix
in post 366.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 07:37a,
farside22
votes
EddieFenix
in post 385.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 08:36a,
EddieFenix
unvotes
(
Ankamius
)
in post 391.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 08:58a,
Jackel98
Votes
eyestott
in post 395.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 09:24a,
Toon Fighter
votes
Nobody Special
in post 402.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 09:32a,
Titus
Votes
eyestott
in post 404.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 01:41p,
Jackel98
Votes
EddieFenix
in post 460.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 03:59p,
Toon Fighter
votes
EddieFenix
in post 466.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 05:39p,
Frightened inmate number3
votes
ProHawk
in post 510.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 05:43p,
Alchemist21
Votes
EddieFenix
in post 511.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 07:01p,
Ankamius
Unvotes
farside22
and Votes
Klingoncelt
in post 539.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 07:12p,
Klingoncelt
Unvotes
Nobody Special
and Votes
EddieFenix
in post 540.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 11:46p,
Awesome
votes
Muffin
in post 584.
On Sat, Jan 01/10/15 @ 11:52p,
Fluminator
Votes
Toon Fighter
in post 586.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 09:20a,
Titus
Votes
Pine
in post 644.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 01:44p,
shos
Votes
PeregrineV
in post 664.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 02:23p,
BlizZard
votes
shos
in post 671.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 03:11p,
shos
Votes
eyestott
in post 687.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 04:48p,
farside22
votes
Toon Fighter
in post 703.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 05:56p,
Wisdom
Unvotes
(
EddieFenix
)
in post 736.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 05:57p,
Titus
unvotes
(
EddieFenix
)
in post 740.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 06:01p,
Frightened inmate number3
votes
Titus
in post 744.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 06:12p,
Alchemist21
Votes
Titus
in post 757.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 06:14p,
Wisdom
Votes
Klingoncelt
in post 759.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 06:17p,
alivechihiro
Unvotes
(
Awesome
)
, and Votes
Klingoncelt
in post 761.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 07:06p,
Jackel98
Votes
Frightened inmate number3
in post 769.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 07:14p,
EddieFenix
votes
Klingoncelt
in post 776.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 07:21p,
ProHawk
Votes
Klingoncelt
in post 778.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 09:57p,
eyestott
Unvotes
EddieFenix
in post 815.
On Sun, Jan 01/11/15 @ 10:45p,
Pirate Ika
Votes
Muffin
in post 823.
On Mon, Jan 01/12/15 @ 07:12a,
eyestott
Votes
Klingoncelt
in post 858.
On Mon, Jan 01/12/15 @ 07:42a,
Nobody Special
unvotes
(
Wisdom
)
, and votes
Titus
in post 879.
On Mon, Jan 01/12/15 @ 08:17a,
Toon Fighter
unvotes
(
EddieFenix
)
in post 885.
On Mon, Jan 01/12/15 @ 08:22a,
Wisdom
Unvotes
(
Klingoncelt
)
, and Votes
Toon Fighter
in post 890.
On Mon, Jan 01/12/15 @ 08:24a,
Frightened inmate number3
votes
Toon Fighter
in post 891.
On Mon, Jan 01/12/15 @ 08:32a,
Titus
Votes
Toon Fighter
in post 893.
On Mon, Jan 01/12/15 @ 10:44a,
Toon Fighter
Votes
Klingoncelt
in post 914.
Edit:
Or 40 times 40 minutes... :shifty:
But up, all the same!
Edit2:
I spotted a couple of errors: a broken link in shos's player vote history, and Jackel98's Frightened inmate number3 vote in the voting chronology. They've both been fixed here, but it'd be too much work to track down and fix the errors in previous votecounts, so future VCA users beware of this when quoting; you may risk broken tags unless you make the same fix.
Last edited by mastin2 on Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:48 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:06 am

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In post 427, Titus wrote:Because traditional cops don't get communist. They get town or scum.

Pine is cop fishing (single or multiball), alignment fishing possibily (multiball), or going for wifom toen with bullshit. Millers must get a guilty result when investigated. That's a miller. Getting a vague result is not a miller but an ascetic.


Ika right here.
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:09 am

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In post 380, Titus wrote:
In post 379, guille2015 wrote:All votes on Ankamius suck. Except for Prohawk's since he made a case other than claiming Miller.


Yeah and if you're voting Ank based on claiming Miller it's shit. The cops get traditional town/scum results. I checked via PM. So Pine should be speed lynched.



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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:11 am

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Basically titus fits his comments. Anka claimed he gets guilty.

I say well this is bastard so I'm letting this go.
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:14 am

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In post 926, Titus wrote:
In post 427, Titus wrote:Because traditional cops don't get communist. They get town or scum.

Pine is cop fishing (single or multiball), alignment fishing possibily (multiball), or going for wifom toen with bullshit. Millers must get a guilty result when investigated. That's a miller. Getting a vague result is not a miller but an ascetic.


Ika right here.


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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:27 am

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And continuing with the analysis:

Pirate Ika: I don't really know why did you insist on me going back to my very first early-game read. I still think you spam a lot (over 100 posts so far, and most of them early game) and not enough content, and that is why I didn't include you in my first post. A lot of bad grammar and such, which just obscures your points. Honestly, null read really, as the barrage of posts just makes you hard to read. Your vote on Muffin seems very weak though, you barely mentioned him during the game. Why are you voting Muffin again, can you give an explanation?

Muffin: apart from the stupid claim, nice early case on Awesome, although I don't really agree that a miller claim is a good reason for a vote. But the case soon turns into tunneling, and 900 posts in Awesome is almost the only player mentioned by Muffin, is either calling him scum or doubting Awesome's town. Want more content from muffin, and not just comments/attacks on awesome. Don't really like the interactions between Pirate/awesome/Muffin, would bet at least one of them is scum.

Awesome: Too serious at Muffin's early joke claim, as I said before. Votes both Muffin and Pirate Ika still relatively early on, which, connected with the other two's posts, looks a bit strange. A lot of posts, but more readable than Pirate's. Claims Eddie is town without a real justification. Votes Muffin again, and continues defending Eddie as town. I believe this motivation for pegging Eddie as town, and am inclined to believe Awesome IS town (scum wouldn't work so hard to protect either a partner or a random town). Still, the trio seems suspicious, and feels fishy. Even if Eddie is town, one of these three is scum.

I think awesome is the most town looking of the three, null on Pirate and Scum-leaning for Muffin
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:45 am

Post by Pine »

In post 909, Titus wrote:
In post 903, Pine wrote:
In post 841, Titus wrote:
In post 837, farside22 wrote:
In post 817, Titus wrote:@Klingon, The rage is that common on USMB (US Message Board) but I am confused. Wisdom has seemed to have played with you and not seen the same rage. Plus the case that Eddie and Pine are dumb is appealing. I doubt Eddie Pine and Eyestott are all dumb but it's ok for today.

Go back. Explain like we're five. No curse words.



Weren't you the one pushing the case on pine there for a bit? :?
Where did you realize it was wrong?


It isn't necessarily wrong but it is not as ironclad as I thought. Pine being a total derping guy is possible. If his role PM looks like

"communist miller"
You fuck with cop results.

He thinks he returns Communist to all cops when it's not true but he thinks he is being honest.

My role PM
explicitly
states that cop investigations will return a result of "Communist." I really cannot be more clear on this without quoting the PM and getting mod killed. It does not comment on the difference between flavor and alignment cops, it just uses the unmodified word
In post 843, Titus wrote:@Pine you are misunderstanding or scum since the mod said she wouldn't lie to us in our role PMs.

She also said that most of the bastardness is in misinformation

My lack of productivity is bad enough

Your pursuit of and obsession with a red herring is outright distracting

Mastin I hate you a little for this. Tell me who to vote for. My crystal ball is cracked


My PM says when I investigate I get town or scum. So are you calling Mastina a liar?

I'm calling Mastina a liar, but she self-described that way. She outright said that there'd be misinformation.

Besides, that's like saying that when a regular cop gets a guilty on a regular Miller, that it's the Mod lying. Or the reverse with a Godfather

Further, why in the HELL would I specify that there was an unusual result unless I was told so specifically? If all cops got scum/not scum, I'd say "I'm a Miller, you'll get a scum result from me." Not "I'm a weird role in a weird game, this is the unusual result you'll get." There's just zero reason to invent the extra layer.

So in other words, Titus, pull your head out of your ass. You're a regular cop, and I'm an irregular Miller, in a game where the mod has explicitly told us there would be misinformation
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:56 am

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VOTE: eyestott
In post 836, Lucky2u said:

Rule # 5h05: players should not attempt to use or manipulate the mod for any purpose.
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:35 am

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In post 902, Muffin wrote:Can you please outline for me why you think Awesome is town, then? I don't follow/understand your thought process.


Tammy/Awesome is very transparent.
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:36 am

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Before I continue the thing with ika, I need to point something out.

TF, I think you got Ankamius mixed up with Awesome in the first part in Muffin analysis.
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:38 am

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In post 914, Toon Fighter wrote:edit: you just claimed cop. Ok good for you. still dumbtown, but more town now than before


Really? I missed that, I was skimming trying to catch up. Oh well.
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:39 am

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Toon fighter is scum. Very tentative and wishy washy. Am I wrong?
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:40 am

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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:40 am

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In post 934, Jackel98 wrote:TF, I think you got Ankamius mixed up with Awesome in the first part in Muffin analysis.

nope muffin did make a case on awesome
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:43 am

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I know, but for being miller? I meant the first use of the word Awesome, unless I'm really misinterpreting what was said.
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:02 am

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In post 933, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 902, Muffin wrote:Can you please outline for me why you think Awesome is town, then? I don't follow/understand your thought process.


Tammy/Awesome is very transparent.


Fine.

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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:03 am

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moar voats on eyestott.
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:22 am

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why are we voting eyestott again?
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:25 am

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In post 939, Jackel98 wrote:I know, but for being miller? I meant the first use of the word Awesome, unless I'm really misinterpreting what was said.

the first mention was "nice early case on awesome"

he was referring to muffin's 211. the miller thing was prolly about the content of the awesome quotes in that post
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:32 am

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In post 939, Jackel98 wrote:I know, but for being miller? I meant the first use of the word Awesome, unless I'm really misinterpreting what was said.

You're missing the subtleties that you no doubt can't see right now.

No worries. Vote eyestott.
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:34 am

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In post 944, Muffin wrote:Vote eyestott.

is there reasoning for this somewhere?
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:36 am

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In post 645, eyestott wrote:
In post 641, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 637, eyestott wrote:What's your case for them being partners?


It's still coming from their early oush on farside, and that Titus is Townreadin Ank for no apparant reason. Titus looks scummier than Ank right now to me.

In post 638, eyestott wrote:Alchemist:
How do you have fun?
Who decides if you've had enough fun to win?
If we help you have fun, can you help the town to win?


I have fun playing the game and learning to get better at it. The main thing I want to take away from this game is being able to handle large games. I also like how this game has a good mix of players I have and haven't played with before.

I'm not sure how it's decided. Post-game evaluation maybe?

Of course I'll help Town win. In this game I'm going to focus more on wagons and peoples' reasons for being on those wagons as my main scumhunting tool. We were promised misdirection by the mod, so I'm willing to consider PR results, but if there are heavy elements of doubt then I'm going with my own reads on those matters.

Do you have any abilities that help you to have fun?


shos apparently is voting eyestott for this, which he needs to explain
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:36 am

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Muffin, what is your read on toonfighter? Quickly please.
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:41 am

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I like this muffin guy
he gets me

wisdom why don't you
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:43 am

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Be a good laddie and earn your place here.
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