Mini 1633 ~ Non-normal Mafias Mafia OVER!!!

Ghostlin · Post Post #875 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:31 pm

Town may make all their mistakes Day 1, but it doesn't mean we have to fucking encourage it. I'm also laughing my ass off about people having me cheerlead certain lynches. My vote's where it is for a reason, let's talk about midget.

MTD · Post Post #876 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:07 am

Uh yeah, I might be ok with lynching Pasch as well.

CooLDoG · Post Post #877 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:38 am

House replaces Fuduzn!

Titus · Post Post #878 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:40 am

What the fuck? I thought deadline was yesterday.

House · Post Post #879 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:02 am

VOTE: Titus

Policy Vote.

FourTrouble · Post Post #880 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:39 am

Ghost, talk to me about midget. I asked youba question that went answered. You could start there.

FourTrouble · Post Post #881 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:49 am

In post 855, Ghostlin wrote:His reasoning seems pretty shallow (if not weird, read his Ika defense) when it exists, his actual defense of Ika has bizarre resonance with the idea that a Vig would kill Ika (Vigs generally do not target folks who will have their ass in the wind soon) and it seems like a really fucking great way to get town cred.

Where's his ika defense? I see him pushing eye more than he's defending ika. He says something about who a vig will target, but it seems more to do with the fairly popular view that Titus is a policy lynch, so it makes sense. I don't think it's scummy or Towny - plus it's a shitty lynch to push cause he has 4 posts. I want to see more from him. Right now, Pasch is the best person to pressure.

FourTrouble · Post Post #882 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:51 am

Also, that's not true about vigs - vigs target people they think are scum, or anti-town policy lynch players - Titus seems to fall into that category on both levels...

FourTrouble · Post Post #883 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:51 am

In post 876, MTD wrote:Uh yeah, I might be ok with lynching Pasch as well.

Why the hesitation? Vote.

Randomnamechange · Post Post #884 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:10 am

In post 855, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 848, FourTrouble wrote:Ghost, why is your vote on math?

Om, can you give me 1 or 2 reasons why Titus is scum?

MTD, why is eye scum?

Because I couldn't be assed to change it. I'm not thrilled with either wagon, but I will:

Unvote.

Vote: midget

His reasoning seems pretty shallow (if not weird, read his Ika defense) when it exists, his actual defense of Ika has bizarre resonance with the idea that a Vig would kill Ika (Vigs generally do not target folks who will have their ass in the wind soon) and it seems like a really fucking great way to get town cred.

Ok, i've only played two games with vigs in so I didn't know that. I assime yoy think Titus is my buddy then?
Otherwise there wouldnt be any point me defending him.
Ibthink the om/eye push on him means that Titus is town. It didn't seem like a town push.
Also how does it give me town cred if I'm getting scum read for it?

Randomnamechange · Post Post #885 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:11 am

In post 877, CooLDoG wrote:
House replaces Fuduzn!

Oh dear god

FourTrouble · Post Post #886 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:13 am

Midget, thoughts on Pasch. More than just town or scum. Tell me specific reasons.

House · Post Post #887 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:13 am

In post 885, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 877, CooLDoG wrote:
House replaces Fuduzn!

Oh dear god

I saw your name and knew I had to jump in here.

<3

Randomnamechange · Post Post #888 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:56 am

House wrote:
In post 885, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 877, CooLDoG wrote:
House replaces Fuduzn!

Oh dear god

I saw your name and knew I had to jump in here.

<3

<3<3<3

FourTrouble wrote:Midget, thoughts on Pasch. More than just town or scum. Tell me specific reasons.

Pasch seems fairly townie. Tunnel vision comes from both alignments, and they do seem to be working to pursue scumreads. A lot of the suspicion on them comes from pwople randomly loving om. I don't want a pasch lynch today.

FourTrouble · Post Post #889 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:00 am

Midget, the suspicion on Pasch has nothing to do with Om. Take a look at his votes. He defends Zombeh for self-voting, then jumps on ika when he self-votes. He hasn't done anything significant this game other than attack the reasoning others use - so his play is reactive (just sitting on the outside), inconsistent, and opportunistic (voting ika).

ika · Post Post #890 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:08 am

WK=white knighting

titus is trying to exuse herself form lynching me by distancing and doing moderate soft defenses of me

ika · Post Post #891 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:08 am

(essensaly her not voting me and saying she wont implies to me shes town reading me, but not doing much to dismantle the wagon

House · Post Post #892 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:17 am

In post 891, ika wrote:(essensaly her not voting me and saying she wont implies to me shes town reading me, but not doing much to dismantle the wagon

I'm not voting you and have no desire to do so.

Am I WK'ing you?

ika · Post Post #893 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:20 am

In post 892, House wrote:
In post 891, ika wrote:(essensaly her not voting me and saying she wont implies to me shes town reading me, but not doing much to dismantle the wagon

I'm not voting you and have no desire to do so.

Am I WK'ing you?

depends on the reason

why

your not

titus is using a lame-ass excuse of saying im a jester (the sc2 variation where a guilty voter dies if lynched)

you just replaced in so either:

A) your scum and you knwo im town so it easier to WK me/not vote me
B) your town and you read me as town
C) *insert reason here*

House · Post Post #894 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:25 am

In post 893, ika wrote:
In post 892, House wrote:
In post 891, ika wrote:(essensaly her not voting me and saying she wont implies to me shes town reading me, but not doing much to dismantle the wagon

I'm not voting you and have no desire to do so.

Am I WK'ing you?

depends on the reason
why
your not

titus is using a lame-ass excuse of saying im a jester (the sc2 variation where a guilty voter dies if lynched)

you just replaced in so either:

A) your scum and you knwo im town so it easier to WK me/not vote me
B) your town and you read me as town
C) *insert reason here*

"I'll take Option C" - Travis/The Run Down

I'm town and I have no read on you yet.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #895 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:16 am

I was waiting for om and pasch to admit their undying love for each othe and I guess I waited too long.

Aka prodge

Paschendale · Post Post #896 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:32 am

In post 872, FourTrouble wrote:
In post 790, Paschendale wrote:VOTE: Ika

Definitely. Self-voting is never okay.

If self-voting is "never okay," why'd you spend so much energy defending Zombeh?

Because I know the difference between deliberate action and ignorance. I suppose I should have said "intentional self voting is never okay", but I assumed that people reading it understand the difference. Don't you?

And, of course, I never defended Zombehs. I never once asserted that he was town. I (correctly) said that the attempts to lynch that slot were duplicitous. Again, please understand the difference and don't misrep what I've said.

In post 873, Ghostlin wrote:He's pulling a Varsoon play without knowing what the fuck he's doing. And he's STILL getting results from it.

And what results are you seeing? I'm seeing scum trying to make people dislike him for style rather than content in an atmosphere where we're trying not to lynch people for that. That's a tactic to make people second guess any scumreads on him.

Paschendale · Post Post #897 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:34 am

In post 889, FourTrouble wrote:Midget, the suspicion on Pasch has nothing to do with Om. Take a look at his votes. He defends Zombeh for self-voting, then jumps on ika when he self-votes. He hasn't done anything significant this game other than attack the reasoning others use - so his play is reactive (just sitting on the outside), inconsistent, and opportunistic (voting ika).

Also, if you actually read what I say, the self vote from Ika was merely the last straw and I have a lot of other problems with Ika's play. The vote was merely the tipping point to take my focus off of Om.

House · Post Post #898 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:46 am

In post 896, Paschendale wrote:I suppose I should have said "intentional self voting is never okay"

How does one unintentionally self-vote?

FourTrouble · Post Post #899 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:01 am

Pasch is saying Zombeh was a noon and therefore not scum. So when it comes to Zombeh, Pasch takes into account the specific player ("Zombeh is a noob so self-voting isn't scummy for him") but when it comes to ika, he doesn't ("ika's self-vote is scummy regardless of ika's meta"). Pasch also maintains that he wasn't defending Zombeh, just attacking the players for voting him. That's scummy because Pasch is refusing to tie himself to a position - instead he's focused on attacking or commenting on others reason ing. Town are looking for the scum so they take positions on alignments; scum are looking for ways to look engaged without having to look for scum. Pasch is doing the latter (lots of commentary on what others say but very little attempt to tie that commentary to alignment).