(Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia 2 [Over]

Titus · Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:50 am

In post 1021, Frightened inmate number3 wrote:prod dodge and answers later
klingon and titus are uncomparable because at least titus shows she actually has a thinking process

Umm thank you...

Do you think Klingon is trying to emulate me?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:52 am

Klingon is totes town.

guille2015 · Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:58 am

In post 1026, DrippingGoofball wrote:Klingon is totes town.

Meta?

shos · Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:44 am

In post 1026, DrippingGoofball wrote:Klingon is totes town.

lolno

farside22 · Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:37 am

Why are there not more votes on tf.

Pirate Ika · Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:18 am

okay we are there I think. this is a composite of mine and ika's reads:

~ Pirate Ika's reads:

town

:

awsum - this is town tammy through and through. they are probs my strongest townread and it is unlikely to change. I understood her push on me and I am glad that we have found each oher in this game and we are both town. strong town.

far - she is scumhunting like a mofo and I love her toon case. I just played a recent game where far was scum and I am not seeing anything that resembles that play here. she is pretty focused and ika likes her effort. strong town.

blizzard - I think they are town. I like that they immediately chimed in and said "our pm says nothing about factions" when the the whole fascist/communist discussion began to take hold. some of their thoughts seem to pivot in the same direction at about the same time that mine do which I consider to be a towntell since town tend to move in herds. lean town.

klingon - when a newb comes in and arrogantly demands that every1 follow their rather ridiculous assumptions cos OMG THEY ARE THE GREATEST MAFIA PLAYER EVER cos they played on another site and they insist that they have solved the game I think tends to come from town at least that has been my experience in newbieland. its like there is 1 in every game. she doesn't know the playerlist, seems unfamiliar with the dynamics and I doubt has even looked at the other game but insists that she is right <---- ika's meta on her supports this. i think she was townflailing earlier and i sincerely hope that she will let go of some of the arrogance and absorb what some people are saying and start focusing on finding town and work with them and not continue this trajectory. newbtown IMO.

pine - the trolling of mastina makes me have a light lean as town. plus I liked his whole "hey guyz mastina said that this was a misinformation based game!" which is something I have been trying to point out at least 3 times now. WHAT I DON"T LIKE is how little interaction he has with any1 in the game and i am not seeing as much scumhunting as i wld like. ika has him as town cos of titus's tunnel. tenuous town read.

dgb - she is a blank for ika. I have a light lean town read on her. can't really explain. I will probs feel niggles of paranoia about her but she is under the d3 rule so i am probs not going to go after her anytime soon. she is a wait and see with a tenuous townread.

inmate things - I like some of the things they are saying even tho i think they are a bit off with the comparison of mod meta to an entirely different mod. i like their stance on klingon. ika was all like "who are they again?". mebbe town

null

bulba - thinking town here. ika is all like *shrug* but i wld be very surprised if bulba went after eddie if he were scum. he and eddie don't seem to have the dynamic of wanting to screw each other over but it is interesting he is not pushing a scumread on eddie based on I KNOW THIS PLAYER SHEEP ME and i am gonna wait to see what else he has to say when he catches up. the thing about bulba is I wld think he wld know the players in the previous game wld fry him if unsure

wis - I want wis to be town but in all honesty I simply don't know. he says some things that I really love and some things that I absolutely hate. ika has him as a wild card. he is incredibly subdued this game so unsure.

shos - I didn't get the love from him that i like and i am feeling a bit ignored but I dunno, shos may feel we have moved beyond that. at first I hated the eyesore push but then I realised if you strip away eyesore's set up spec stuff he IS playing to his scum meta in a way. so mebbe the push is legit BUT I DON"T KNOW COS SHOS ISN"T SAYING WHY. he is also going after low hanging fruit. unsure mebbe scum but unsure.

eddie - unsure, waiting on bulba. ika and I both feel this way. I didn't like how he was about the millers at first cos the reasoning is very inconsistent with how he was in the other game. I thought I might have seen a bit of townflail tho. his stubbornness to reveal his role is consistent but null so read is pending right now unsure.

perv - hasn't done enough to get a read off of yet. I will probably want pressure on him on d2 if he keeps this. unsure.

mathdino - hasn't posted yet but it is a site flake i think.

ank - not feeling it yet i don't think. ika says that as scum ank lurks a LOT.

alchy - unsure but mebbe town? ika doesn't like how he didn't role claim in his first post but i kinda think he hinted at it when he said he was confused about his alignment.

ns - I think scum but ika has as town. so unsure.

arc - hasn't posted enough.

eyesore - I had him as town cos i was a scumteam with him and he was waaaaaay different but ika has him as unsure and then I realised that he keeps dodging giving reads. wld like to see some stances so unsure right now.

jackal - ika is waiting a a readslist. i have no read cos jackal pretty much replaces out of every game I am in with him so i am curious as to why he is invested in this 1.

guille - no real content yet mostly staying on the sidelines except he did try to mediate between tammy and I. unsure.

chichirro and flum thing - unsure, they are making an impression on neither of us.

scumzorz!

muffin - I didn't like his stance on tammy and voted him mostly to work with tammy but he is looking scummier and scummier with how sticky he is being with it when tammy shot down every point he made. he is altering his narrative in order to stay persistent on a read. scum.

toon - I liked far's case but the thing that stood out to me the most is his attempt to keep tying muffin, whom he is not voting for, to to other players. I mean from if he is that strong on muffin then why not just vote on muffin? looks like something that scum will do which is to tie scummates to a town player cos they know how their scummate will flip which fits in with the era he heralds from. scum

titus - ika has her as a pl I think some of the things are downright scummy. light scumread.

prohawk - I thought he was scum in the last game cos all he did was whine about how town was losing when we only mislynched once. I am unsure ika has him as a scumlean. I guess what bugs me is he is complaing that oher people aren't reading the game when bulba never said that alchy was the rpohawk of the game he has always said that it was muffin. oddly that sounds mebbe the new and unimproved town!hawk boy to me? but meh unsure mebbe scum.

I think that is every1 obvsly there are more scum than what is our scumlist but we are still trying to sort out the noise.

Pirate Ika · Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:19 am

In post 1029, farside22 wrote:Why are there not more votes on tf.

you have my sword. will you help with muffin tomorrow?

VOTE: toon thing

Jackel98 · Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:33 am

Ika, reads on you, muffin, and shos are coming. Also, I asked mastin to ban me from all of her future games if I replace out.

Is it modkillable to quote mod communication from before the game?

Pregame? Yes, it is. Before the game began? No, because you did not have a role PM, thus, any communication taking place is done without an alignment attached. >>>

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:46 am

@Mollie, he did call me the ProHawk of this game before he called muffin that.

Fluminator · Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:48 am

Pirate Ika wrote:
chichirro and flum thing - unsure, they are making an impression on neither of us.

No impression eh? Remember this.

Also, I'm quite confident in my read on Toon Fighter now. Wisdom's post was a nice catch.
On one of Toon's first posts. he was like, "Awesome is scummy, but Wisdom going against him is scummy too" He seemed to be throwing around suspicion for the giggles. His unvote of Eddie also looked forced.
I still wonder if the change in styles on his reads list mean anything.
Toon Fighter: Would you be willing to vote Muffin with me?

mastin2 · Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:52 am

Alright, so I got caught up on reading last night, but didn't get a chance to put up VCs; I'll try to get to that today.
More importantly,

<<< Now seeking a Mathdino replacement. >>>

Since it's early into the game, most of the people on my replacement list (that indicated "maybe later" for the most part) are not going to be available, so this may take a while.

Ninteenth Votecount

:

Klingoncelt - 6 (Ankamius, alivechihiro, EddieFenix, ProHawk, eyestott, Toon Fighter)

Toon Fighter - 6 (Fluminator, farside22, Wisdom, Frightened inmate number3, Titus, Pirate Ika)

Titus - 2 (Alchemist21, Nobody Special)
Eddie Fenix - 2 (Bulbazak, Klingoncelt)
eyestott - 2 (shos, Muffin)
Muffin - 1 (Awesome)
farside22 - 1 (guille2015)
alivechihiro - 1 (PeregrineV)
shos - 1 (BlizZard)
Frightened inmate number3 - 1 (Jackel98)

Not Voting: 4 (Mathdino, DrippingGoofBall, ArcAngel9, Pine)

With

27

alive, it's

14

to lynch.

Day One's deadline is Thursday, January 29th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2015-01-29 16:15:00).

At Deadline,

Klingoncelt

would be lynched.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Last votecount was page 41, post 1020.

Spoiler: Player Vote History D1

Spoiler: Voting Chronology for D1

Pirate Ika · Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:07 am

In post 1033, Alchemist21 wrote:@Mollie, he did call me the ProHawk of this game before he called muffin that.

*shrug*

I followed the link and to me it only said muffin and i don't remember him saying that about you. but thanks for the correction I guess?

what are your other thoughts on the game?

@ flum

what is your read on toon? cos I can't remember what it is at the mo and I am trying to understand your appeal to toon to vote muffin.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:10 am

In post 1034, Fluminator wrote:
Pirate Ika wrote:
chichirro and flum thing - unsure, they are making an impression on neither of us.

No impression eh? Remember this.

Also, I'm quite confident in my read on Toon Fighter now. Wisdom's post was a nice catch.
On one of Toon's first posts. he was like, "Awesome is scummy, but Wisdom going against him is scummy too" He seemed to be throwing around suspicion for the giggles. His unvote of Eddie also looked forced.
I still wonder if the change in styles on his reads list mean anything.
Toon Fighter: Would you be willing to vote Muffin with me?

Let me get this straight. You're scum reading Toonfighter, but asking him if he'll join a wagon with you?

P.S. I'm a little disappointed Dino couldn't join this party. Fingers still crossed he shows up before getting replaced.

shos · Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:37 am

In post 1030, Pirate Ika wrote:
shos - I didn't get the love from him that i like and i am feeling a bit ignored but I dunno, shos may feel we have moved beyond that.

no bby I swear it's just this week! semester's ending, love

shos · Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:38 am

vote eyestott.

Bulbazak · Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:38 am

In post 529, Awesome wrote:OH I think I see something. Eddie might be town.

You're wrong, but explain.

In post 536, Awesome wrote:
I probably wouldn't hate an eddie lynch but I really can't tell if he's scum digging himself a hole or if he's newb town digging himself a hole.

Eddie's not a noob.

In post 552, Pirate Ika wrote:if it helps tammy, i have a role read on titus already. Shes a good day 2 lynch at least.
-ika

In post 561, eyestott wrote:
In post 515, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 513, Awesome wrote:
In post 382, eyestott wrote:
Mastin: do all cops get traditional town/mafia results?

<<< I cannot answer that, sorry. >>>

Mastin answering this question in this way indicates that Titus was lying by her claim to have received an answer from Mastin.

Titus also immediately criticized the way Eyestott worded the question, so to be fair it's possible Titus worded it a little more specifically.

@Titus, please ask the question to the mod in-thread in the same way you asked via PM.

This is a good idea.

No it's not.

In post 574, Awesome wrote:
In post 570, Muffin wrote:
In post 547, Awesome wrote:Muffin - You gonna comment on the rest of the game or do you think tunneling on me for no reason at all is somehow going to get you through? (Also, in the realm of AtE from me, those posts are downright stoic.)

All you do is ask questions, but you don't really follow up on the answers. I'll post about who I please. Unless you're claiming vig or scum, you don't get to decide whether I "get through".

Anyone reading this shit as town needs to explain it in small words...like I'm five...and slow.

This is fucking scum.

Muffin is way too earnest to be scum. It's not an earnestness in just pushing a lynch. It's an earnestness in thinking he's found scum, and then going after it with everything he has. My analogy was he's like a dog with a bone. Contrary to popular belief, you don't see very many scum like that, as they actually tend to be more methodical. It's a town trait, and while I disagree with him and his arguments, that doesn't diminish my town read on him.

In post 589, eyestott wrote:Just remembered something I read earlier:

In post 548, Klingoncelt wrote:Like you, Pine, and Alchemist being
the
Communist team.

Notice how he says X, Y and Z being THE communist team, not being PART OF the communist team.
This implies knowledge that scumteams are made of 3 people, In my opinion.

It's actually not that far out. 4 is probably more likely, but I wouldn't be surprised at a 3-man scum team.

In post 608, eyestott wrote:
Everyone: was it wrong of me to ask Titus to do what I asked?

I don't know if I would go with wrong, but it was definitely very stupid and ill advised, not to mention a complete waste of time, energy, and focus.

In post 632, Wisdom wrote:I agree, if one of them is scum its titus.

They're both town.

In post 639, alivechihiro wrote:
On the topic of the actual game, there's a thing I don't get. Why is EddieFenix's use of the word "faction" in association with his role considered so suspicious? Klingoncelt and Wisdom are springing immediately to mind, but anyone who's thought that can answer.

Faction refers to a particular group, such as town, mafia, werewolf, SK, etc. For Eddie to say that Fascist is a faction means that he can't possibly be town, even though he then claims that he is.

On to page 27.

Fluminator · Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:25 pm

I have a scum read on Toon. I wanted to see if he would vote for muffin. Although in hindsight, the motive behind the question is really obvious and he would probably see through it. I retract it.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:28 pm

Do you have any completed games as scum?

Fluminator · Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:43 pm

No. Although I get rolled scum like 90% of the time at epic mafia for some reason.

Fluminator · Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:45 pm

What's your read on Toon?

Fluminator · Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:20 pm

And I missed him. So sad.
Another question I want you to answer when you get back is whether you believe Titus's cop claim? You implied that you did, yet you are still voting for her.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:53 pm

In post 1044, Fluminator wrote:What's your read on Toon?

Null. I haven't paid much attention to him.

In post 1045, Fluminator wrote:And I missed him. So sad.
Another question I want you to answer when you get back is whether you believe Titus's cop claim? You implied that you did, yet you are still voting for her.

I'm a little hesitant to believe the claim, but I won't say it can't be true. Even if Titus isn't cop, I think Eddie could be a kind of Cop. I really think setup spec should stop now, partly because of all the claims flying around and causing confusion, and partly because the roles in this game could be misleading and scum could try to capitalize on that. I'd rather judge player interactions and motivations for joining wagons to scumhunt in this game.

Ankamius · Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:21 pm

In post 1030, Pirate Ika wrote:ank - not feeling it yet i don't think. ika says that as scum ank lurks a LOT.

He's clearly referencing the Robin Williams game. Everyone will figure out eventually that my lurking in that game is dead null except in very specific circumstances.

Also, I have an average of like 5.5 posts a day in this game. Unless he can make a case for me active lurking or whatever, then he's objectively wrong about me lurking.

farside22 · Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:31 pm

In post 1031, Pirate Ika wrote:
In post 1029, farside22 wrote:Why are there not more votes on tf.

you have my sword. will you help with muffin tomorrow?

VOTE: toon thing

I'll think about it. I have a few people that are in my people of interest list.
I don't agree with bulba's view of muffin, but prohawk is on my people of interest list.

Also alch usually seems more town then he is here. Not sure about him yet.

Ankamius · Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:31 pm

I'm not seeing the ProHawk-scum sentiment.